Why is Leia such a bitch in ANH?

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Personally, I always put her "bitchiness" down to the fact her resceurers were doing a lousy job of it. After all, she seemed to be about the only one who know what they were doing.
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Bob the Gunslinger wrote:
consequences wrote:Personally, I think it was the being banged by two different squads of Stormtroopers, the prison guards, the interrogation droid, Darth Vader, and Grand Moff Tarkin, all within a couple of days, that probably made her seem a tad ticked off. :D
If that's the case, why was she so mellow after Jabba's Palace? Being a giant worm-pimp's love slave couldn't have been to healthy for her ego.
I don't think Jabba made use of her for that yet. At the time he seemed a little preoccupied with Luke and friends.
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Dude, the film came out in the 1970s. That was how liberated women were supposed to act in the 1970s.
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This is true.

Then there is that fact that this has been probably the worst day in her life and then to top it off this youngbuck farmboy, and his mercenary friend break into the detention center, have completely bungled the escape and to top it off this money grubbing, cocky, scounrel talks down to her. I'd be a little ticked too.
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I think her problem was mostly with Han, whom she felt was a loose cannon that would just land her back in her cell with his cowboy antics.
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You just know it's been a bad week when:

You get caught by the bad guys.

Your loyal crew gets blasted trying to save your mission and your hide, and those who survived to surrender are probably dead after being run through an Imperial torture mill.

Your loyal captain, who's probably been risking his life with you for a couple of years, and with whom you've doubtless had more than one formal captain's dinner, just got his throat crushed by a huge nasty guy in black armor, just because the captain was trying to buy time for you.

All your friendly little tootling droids, some of whom probably brought you a warm soothing beverage when you needed it or set out your clothes for your, are now either scrap or memory-wiped and reprogrammed as Imperial-standard nasty droids.

Your homeworld, with everyone you ever loved or even felt fondness for, and with every place you ever really liked as a child, just got blown up. Sure, you didn't break all the way and give away the location of the Rebel base, and they would have all died regardless, but that makes survivor guilt no easier to live with.

You've had the pleasure of getting viciously tortured and drugged out of your mind, all in an effort to break you.

Now, when you're just waiting for your execution or further torture, in waltz a callow and bewildered hayseed, a cocky mercenary captain of a tramp freighter, and a roaring bipedal sheepdog. The titanic trio informs you that the vital droids with the info and the vital general with the intestinal fortitude to do something are on the battle station, surrounded by hundreds of thousands of stormtroopers and naval troopers.

Now, guess who has no idea what to do next after their brilliant rescue that probably means you'll get a field execution right away instead of a formal execution some time later.

In the middle of that kind of mess any normal person would have simply gone completely nuts and stayed that way, or at least developed a monster case of post traumatic stress disorder. Leia manages to restrict herself to a few nasty comments.
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Stormbringer wrote:
Bob the Gunslinger wrote:
consequences wrote:Personally, I think it was the being banged by two different squads of Stormtroopers, the prison guards, the interrogation droid, Darth Vader, and Grand Moff Tarkin, all within a couple of days, that probably made her seem a tad ticked off. :D
If that's the case, why was she so mellow after Jabba's Palace? Being a giant worm-pimp's love slave couldn't have been to healthy for her ego.
Do you really think Jabba can find it anymore?
Doesn't matter. I'm sure that an entrpreneur like Jabba would have rented her out to Klaatu, Verada, Nikto and Yakface while he was looking for it.
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as for her look. She have been cleaned up in order to look good for her execution
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IIRC, Carrie Fisher was pissed that the torture scenes wasn't used after she had spent a good time upside down on the wall to make it.

EDIT: Ah, here we go
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You know, I'm GLAD we don't get to see Leia tortured. One of litarature and film's finest tools is implication - ie, Vader menacing stating "And NOW, your highness, we shall discuss the location of your hidden rebel base." CUT TO: torture droid. CUT TO: Leia's eyes wide with horror. CUT TO: Exterior Corridor shot, with the door slamming shut before we see anything, leaving it all implied.

Christ, the 3rd draft has her hanging upside down with exorcist yellow eyes? They should have nuked it. It sounds like junk.
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Bob the Gunslinger wrote:
consequences wrote:Personally, I think it was the being banged by two different squads of Stormtroopers, the prison guards, the interrogation droid, Darth Vader, and Grand Moff Tarkin, all within a couple of days, that probably made her seem a tad ticked off. :D
If that's the case, why was she so mellow after Jabba's Palace? Being a giant worm-pimp's love slave couldn't have been to healthy for her ego.
I'm no psychiatrist, but I would consider strangling the fat bastard with a giant chain closure.
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Personally I always thought she was like that because of the repressed guilt that she and her father brought Alderaan's destruction on itself by supporting the Rebels so obviously.
But then that's just me trying to absolve the Empire of all guilt in the matter. :twisted:
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Well we can count Darth Vader raping Leia out.
Remember, he is Leia's father as well...
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GoldenFalcon wrote:Well we can count Darth Vader raping Leia out.
Remember, he is Leia's father as well...
But he doesn't know that. Twas a revalation to him in RotJ.
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Crazedwraith wrote:
GoldenFalcon wrote:Well we can count Darth Vader raping Leia out.
Remember, he is Leia's father as well...
But he doesn't know that. Twas a revalation to him in RotJ.
Didn't he find out in Empire Strikes Back?
Of course that's still after Leia's imprisonment, but Vader doesn't strike me as one who would do that, with or without the need for.. attachments..
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Vader found out in ROTJ. Anyone who's seen the movies would be aware of this.

[EDIT] Not to sound like an arsehole, but COME ON. It was only a pivotal moment in the final duel...
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No, no. I'm a complete idiot. Had my duels confused.
Somebody pick up a gun and shoot me now! :oops:

Edit: In my defence I haven't seen the OT in years, and figured I'd wait for the DVD versions anway. Still.. :banghead:
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I recall reading in some book with Bobba Fett in it. I think it was Tales from Jabba's palace, * SOUP!* that Jabba had Leia put in Fetts room with him for sexual perposes but being Fett and the odd way he is he didnt take up the chance!

Thats all I can contribute.
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Deaths Construction wrote:I recall reading in some book with Bobba Fett in it. I think it was Tales from Jabba's palace, * SOUP!* that Jabba had Leia put in Fetts room with him for sexual perposes but being Fett and the odd way he is he didnt take up the chance!

Thats all I can contribute.
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Deaths Construction wrote:I recall reading in some book with Bobba Fett in it. I think it was Tales from Jabba's palace, * SOUP!* that Jabba had Leia put in Fetts room with him for sexual perposes but being Fett and the odd way he is he didnt take up the chance!

Thats all I can contribute.
That was something I liked about Boba--he was all business. In the SE, though, they have added shots of him hitting on women and being a real cocky asshole with the ladies. SE Boba Fett would have boinked Leia bloody.

That same collection of stories mentions Jabba's proclivity for love-slaves and the fact that he burned the girls out rather quickly. When he got tired of abusing them in the most debauched, debasing ways imaginable, he'd feed them to the rancor. I think the implications for Leia are pretty clear... and disgusting.
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There's Jabba and Leia hentai out there....
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I have a pretty well-drawn pic of Vader and Palpatine having their way with Leia.
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Galvatron wrote:I have a pretty well-drawn pic of Vader and Palpatine having their way with Leia.
At the same time?

I guess we can call her Princess Fingercuffs.
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I guess now we need to speculate on what kind of wild sexual torture was used on Han in Cloud City. Or in Jabba's prison system.
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