The plastic soldier in the Executor model

Patrick Ogaard · Post by **Patrick Ogaard** » 2004-08-07 06:06pm

darthdavid wrote:Is it that fucking space penis in the center of the circle you made?

It's the upper torso, head and upraised left arm of a plastic soldier, wearing a steel helmet and a shirt/jacket with rolled up sleeves. If not considered just as an inside joke one might well assume it to be a horrendously huge tribute to the person (AKA the Executor) the ship was named in honor of. The executor of Palpatine's estate perhaps, more likely a youthful Palpatine in his role as the executor of the Old Republic's estate, or just plain the Imperial Executioner (AKA Imperial Executor).

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-08-07 06:07pm

judging by the scale i'd say roughly 50 feet tall, (if this were a full sized SSD) though it is really hard to tell where it's at without someone pointing it out to you.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2004-08-07 06:08pm

Vympel wrote:Link

So ... how do we explain that one?

There is no need to explain it in universe, it's simply an effects gaffe.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-08-07 06:17pm

Unholy shit! It's a plastic soldier with helmet on and one arm sticking right out of the hole!

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2004-08-07 06:19pm

The model itself isn't of the same canonical level as the movies (if any) - it can be a useful technical resource in some aspects but there's no reason to accept it as 100% accurate. Since we do not see this soldier in the movies, we have no reason to assume he would be there in any "in-universe" sense either.

On a similar note, would you assume that the ISD or SSD has only a handful of guns (say less than twenty) based on what is on the model itself? (aside frfom the eight octets, there are maybe 3 other gun turrets on the Avenger model, ,for example.)?

Edit: As an added note in the last paragraph, some "gun ports" in the movies we see do not correspond to any known locations we see on the models (particularily with the Avenger in TESB), so does that mean they don't exist if they don't show up on the model?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-08-07 07:10pm

Thanks Connor, I asserted this before; strictly speaking the models themselves are not covered by Suspension of Disbelief, and the ISD and Executor models were interesting reference since we knew they were filmed to scale for the films, and their size ratios are relevent.

However, on issues such as the infamous distortion of "boxy studs" on the Executor's hull. Strictly speaking on the model, these are featureless boxes with no gun barrels or apparent intent as turrets, but under SoD, we're examining the filmic images of those bumps, and at the distances viewed, their nondescript enough for some to be guns, perhaps.

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2004-08-07 07:46pm

I made it darker, so those who can't see it can.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-08-07 07:48pm

Hopefully that will help the remaining few...

If you can't see it now, you're just fucking retarded.

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2004-08-07 08:58pm

I see the "thing" but it dosent look like a person to me, just looks like a piece of metal hanging off the main structure of the Executor

well with that darkerview it clearly looks like a person, haha funny ILM people from the 80's

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-08-07 10:17pm

You people all have your eyes damaged from looking at computer monitors too much.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-08-07 10:19pm

DPDarkPrimus wrote:You people all have your eyes damaged from looking at computer monitors too much.

I thought we were blind due to masturbation.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-08-08 12:02am

YT300000 wrote:
DPDarkPrimus wrote:You people all have your eyes damaged from looking at computer monitors too much.
I thought we were blind due to masturbation.

I masturbate a lot and I can see it just fine.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-08-08 12:08am

Just so anyone is wondering, I really wasn't asking for a canonical explanation. It's just funny as hell.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-08-08 12:11am

LOL!!!

I wonder if any of the scenes in the movie actually show that, if you zoom in close enough.

Maybe ROTJ, just after the A-wing hit? Everyone watches the bridge and no one zooms in on the rest of the ship.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-08-08 12:27am

Vympel wrote:Just so anyone is wondering, I really wasn't asking for a canonical explanation. It's just funny as hell.

It's on par with that pic you had before, of Nadine 'piloting' a MonCal, with a jubilant expression on his face, and a plastic Nadine soldier in the foreground.

Except with that one the joke is more obvious. *shrugs* It would be funny if that plastic soldier was some kind of monument of Palpatine that's powered by the Force to shoot lightning out of his eyes at approaching starfighters. It was probably scratching his arse when the a-wings made their bombing run...

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-08-08 12:42am

Wow, clearly his was a non-union job.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-08-08 01:01am

Well I think it's as non-canon as all the decals in the Falcon model. I think they tacked a few Interstate signs and bumper stickers because from a distance it looked kinda cool.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-08-08 02:32am

Quick, search all of ESB and ROTJ for him in the movies!

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-08-08 03:33am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:Hey everybody, I modified the picture so you can clearly see it!

Check it out!

Thanks, considering Deathstalker said it was left of center

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-08-08 04:00am

That's what all your panties are in a bunch over?

Hell, that's just DR-4L3: a giant Imperial maintenance droid.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-08-08 06:39am

Bit far back to be a hood decoration.

Funny shit.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2004-08-08 08:21am

Vympel wrote:Link

So ... how do we explain that one?

A Zentradi got caught in the construction droid.

Executor · Post by **Executor** » 2004-08-08 11:14am

If you still cant see it look at my avatar, i have many pics of the executor if you want some showing this or others email me ill send them to you.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-08-08 01:25pm

Praxis wrote:LOL!!!

I wonder if any of the scenes in the movie actually show that, if you zoom in close enough.

Maybe ROTJ, just after the A-wing hit? Everyone watches the bridge and no one zooms in on the rest of the ship.

I doubt whether it can be seen at all anywhere. I think they built different backgrounds for when the fighters are close to Executor rather than photograph close to the actual model, because frankly, its scale works better at far range rather than close up.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-08-08 07:28pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote: I doubt whether it can be seen at all anywhere. I think they built different backgrounds for when the fighters are close to Executor rather than photograph close to the actual model, because frankly, its scale works better at far range rather than close up.

But as I said, what about the scene when the executer's bridge is burning? It's being seen from the bridge of the Mon Cal cruiser, far away.

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