Human attitudes towards droids

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Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:Losing that many against one opponent would make me use less infantry and try for a more effective route of larger artillery.
True. I always thought the best anti-Jedi method is to spend a few people to just find out which city he's in, then crush the entire city with a 200GT TL blast - let's see how he Absorbs/Dissipates that!
That is the easiest way...might be a tad harsh, but it does have the grand possiblity of also if grouped together.
50: 1 is not a good trade off unless I KNOW it's only 10+K of these folks running around.

Also a bit of nitpick...50 to 1 is if there was only 1000 Droids.
1000/200 = 5
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Ghost Rider wrote:
Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:Literally the droids lost because they were up against an opponent that unless they used overwhelming numbers as they did(200 vs THOUSANDS is a pathetic trade off) they losehorribly.
It is not that horrible when you consider there are only maybe 10K Jedi. If you can trade 50 humans for one Jedi demigod, as an Army commander, I bet you'd be THRILLED. Also remember most of them were 'merely' average droids that can be beaten by ordinary humans (look at the clones beating them despite being outnumbered about 5:1).
Actually I wouldn't.

Losing that many against one opponent would make me use less infantry and try for a more effective route of larger artillery.

50: 1 is not a good trade off unless I KNOW it's only 10+K of these folks running around.

Also a bit of nitpick...50 to 1 is if there was only 1000 Droids.
This also presumes that when the Jedi went to battle the droids they had no backup whatsoever and this was the Jedi Order ALONE vs the droids.
It is hard to say much about the circumstances of the battle, since Ender forgot to give a source, eliminating even the slim chance someone would have a copy of that esoteric tidbit.
Then we have two options.

Either droids are amongst the absolute worst combatants the galaxy has

or

The Jedi had help but were on the forefront of that particular offensive.
Artillery might be a problem if you want to preserve the infrastructure of the area. Of course if you don't (and rebelling droids no doubt wouldn't) then artillery and orbital bombardment would be par for the course.

And when you have a whole army of factory-manufactured troops who just keep rolling out, the idea of being able to send 500,000 of them to kill 10,000 supermen would be thrilling to the brass, if they had those kind of numbers to throw around. (Of course with the orbital strikes, BDZings and artillery barrages taking the brunt of the extermination duties, it'll be much less than an actual 10,000 Jedi needing to be exterminated by groundpounders. Maybe 2,000 - 3,000 at the most.)

Anyways, this scenario reminds me of a quote attributed to a Chinese general in WWII:

"For every Japanese killed, we lose 100 Chinese soldiers. At this rate, there soon won't be any Japs left."

Now that is numbers talking, and that's what I'm talking about here with the droids.
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You know, I never really thought about it, is there any mention of restraining bolts in the PT? Perhaps the restraining bolt is a result of the droid armies, a result of the Clone Wars and humanities distrust of such large scale distruction at the hand of droids.
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They don't seem to think too much of droids in the NT either.

Obi-Wan and Dex don't seem to feel that droids can really think and part of the reason the Trade Federation lost Naboo is because all of their droids were controlled from one ship. If they were doing that because it's cheaper than sticking decent brains in each droid then that's just a cost issue but from what I've read I thought they did that because they were concerned about losing control of their armies.

Kind of makes me wonder if droids or a droid army cause some problems even before TPM. :?
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