Ah, ok, so he doesn't count.IG-88E wrote:Gorm the Dissolver, a cyborg.
Clones immensely superior to droids
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BDs are designed to fulfill human roles. A spider wouldn't have been able to pilot an AAT, for example.Simon H.Johansen wrote:I think we can easily blame it on bad droid design. If I were to design the battledroids, they should have looked more like small spiders armed with blaster turrets. They would be able to access all sorts of hard terrain, hard to hit because of their small size and they can be deployed en masse from helicopter-like vessels.
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IG-88E wrote:He started out as a droid, but uses organic material taken from targets to enhance abilities or replace lost parts.Warspite wrote:Ah, ok, so he doesn't count.IG-88E wrote:Gorm the Dissolver, a cyborg.
I hear you.
But since, the learning ability is in question against the droids, does he have that ability? It would make for a better mercenary... And who built him? Was a one-off?
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The only ones to go against the established moral rules... And get to be called revolutionaries. Pfff! (I know, I know, they're not established.)IG-88E wrote:Yes, Arkanian revolutionaries, and he's the only one left.Warspite wrote:I hear you.
But since, the learning ability is in question against the droids, does he have that ability? It would make for a better mercenary... And who built him? Was a one-off?
The conspiracy against the machine continues...
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So, how come the fears of intelligent droids, but not the fear from clones? If they are superior, and free thinking, they can rebel against they're superiors, and being better would make them more dangerous. Are there any sort of... "implants" preventing them from mutiny?IG-88E wrote:Well, they were trying to wipe out the current government, which forbid certain kinds of cyborging.
(This reminds me Seaquest, where there were those engineered multi-coulored soldiers that had to be imprisoned on a insland.)
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No. Fear of intelligent, INDEPENDENT, droids. Gorm is pretty damn scary, and Iggy wreaked some havoc.Warspite wrote: So, how come the fears of intelligent droids, but not the fear from clones?
Remember, they're engineered to make them more docile and willing to take orders.If they are superior, and free thinking, they can rebel against they're superiors, and being better would make them more dangerous. Are there any sort of... "implants" preventing them from mutiny?
I remember that.(This reminds me Seaquest, where there were those engineered multi-coulored soldiers that had to be imprisoned on a insland.)
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OK, thanks, IG!
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He reprogrammed himself as a master thief, then an assassin. He learned intuition (a rough form of it) by learning how to calculate all possible equations into different outcomes.neoolong wrote:What about 4-LOM? He was a droid and a bounty hunter. And in Tales of the Bounty Hunters it said something about him wanting to learn the Force or something like that.
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I wonder is there a difference between the "Battle droids" and "War Droids" which are far nastier.
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The Vong War Driods as least as Designed as Sergants Rather than Grunts, much smarter Faster, built as Super Super Battle Droids BasiclyI wonder is there a difference between the "Battle droids" and "War Droids" which are far nastier.
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I should have rephased that
Is the difference in name meant to reflet the superiority of War droids? (though the war droids cam first as regards publishing)
Is the difference in name meant to reflet the superiority of War droids? (though the war droids cam first as regards publishing)
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The Energy Cage was built by Umak Leth, an Imperial engineer guy who apparently replaced Lemilisk's job for Palpatine on Byss while he recovered from his near-final death at Endor for five years since it took one year for the Vizier to find Palpatine's host, the Emperor's Hand Jeng Droga (this is according to Gamer #6, which states Palpatine was not powerful enough to transfer his spirit all the way to Byss from Endor, and instead sent his spirit into his Hand a few systems over), and bring him to Byss where his spirit could be transfered to a clone.Shrykull wrote:But Obi wan and Qui-Gon weren't able to destroy the destroyer droids when they were trying to cut through the door to get to the viceroy, if telekinesis could have taken them out, then why didn't they do it? Could thier shields have interfered with thier force powers? I've heard the force can't be detected by science, but what about this Universal Energy Cage Mike mentions on his AOTC cage, that can nullify force powers.Well, look at Episode I; the Jedi cut through them like butter,,
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The YVH Yuuzhan Vong Hunter droids? Those are great. Self-healing armor, more weapons than a Swiss Army knife has accessories, and all kinds of sensors...even olfactory. Their armor can even take a Coralskipper plasma blast in the chestMr Bean wrote:The Vong War Driods as least as Designed as Sergants Rather than Grunts, much smarter Faster, built as Super Super Battle Droids BasiclyI wonder is there a difference between the "Battle droids" and "War Droids" which are far nastier.
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I'd say that the reason is clones can be reasoned with and would have a form of a conscience. Droids are cold, emchanical, calculating, and ruthless.Warspite wrote:So, how come the fears of intelligent droids, but not the fear from clones? If they are superior, and free thinking, they can rebel against they're superiors, and being better would make them more dangerous. Are there any sort of... "implants" preventing them from mutiny?IG-88E wrote:Well, they were trying to wipe out the current government, which forbid certain kinds of cyborging.
(This reminds me Seaquest, where there were those engineered multi-coulored soldiers that had to be imprisoned on a insland.)
For lack of a better term, clones have a soul.
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Um...concentration maybe? While your deflecting dozens of rapidfire blaster bolts, do you have the concentration fo summon the force, gesture, and send the droid flying? All quickly enough to not be hit in the process?Illuminatus Primus wrote: But Obi wan and Qui-Gon weren't able to destroy the destroyer droids when they were trying to cut through the door to get to the viceroy, if telekinesis could have taken them out, then why didn't they do it? Could thier shields have interfered with thier force powers?
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The Droidekas are more firmly planted on the ground, so they can't be pushed over. The shields on the ones on the ship also complicated matters.IG-88E wrote:Um...concentration maybe? While your deflecting dozens of rapidfire blaster bolts, do you have the concentration fo summon the force, gesture, and send the droid flying? All quickly enough to not be hit in the process?Illuminatus Primus wrote: But Obi wan and Qui-Gon weren't able to destroy the destroyer droids when they were trying to cut through the door to get to the viceroy, if telekinesis could have taken them out, then why didn't they do it? Could thier shields have interfered with thier force powers?
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Daggers. They were cool.Warspite wrote:(This reminds me Seaquest, where there were those engineered multi-coulored soldiers that had to be imprisoned on a insland.)
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I mean imprisoned.His Divine Shadow wrote:There was one though, who wasn't.Ender wrote:Daggers. They were cool.Warspite wrote:(This reminds me Seaquest, where there were those engineered multi-coulored soldiers that had to be imprisoned on a insland.)
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