Okay, Producer...

Mark S · Post by **Mark S** » 2005-03-06 12:26pm

As I think I've said in another thread about this, I'd call it 'Star Wars: Dark Times' and set it before ANH. It would be about a small group of rebel nobodies who have to eke there way through the galaxy. Maybe have one of the last hiding Jedi in the group just so you can have him hunted down and killed in a very special appearance of Vader. By the end of the second or third season they are told or find out that the Empire has plans for a secret weapon. By the end of the next season they find out that it's the Death Star. That way you can lead into and even follow the events of the movies from the point of view of the people with no control. Either that or you have a guy/girl in the same time period who joins the Academy and becomes an Imperial with great ideals but over time is exposed to what the Empire truly is and eventually, after a few seasons, defects.

Alexus · Post by **Alexus** » 2005-03-06 02:02pm

How about this:

Post TESB, pre ROTJ. A correllian corvette full of rebels is on the run from the Empire after Hoth. Just when you've got it sussed, forty-five minutes into the 90 minute pilot, all but three of the main characters die. These people have been well set up, you think they're going to last, but half a dozen stormtroopers manage to kill twenty rebels in a few minutes from a hundred metres. (This would also shut up Trekkies who say stormies suck)

Then our heroes have to get off the planet.

And there'll be a shark, and a speeder chase, and a fistfight, and possibly a Guri shower scene.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2005-03-06 02:15pm

I'm with Elfdart. Since Lucas filed for creative bankruptcy and we're not getting Episodes 7-9, it seems only fitting that we let the TV series fill that void.

And I'd completely skullfuck the EU, reducing the comics and novels to a level of non-canonity on par with the Star Trek novels.

I wonder if Mark Hamill's too busy to star in it. Ya think?

Alexus · Post by **Alexus** » 2005-03-06 02:17pm

*choke*

Mark Hamill? he was the dullest character in the whole trilogy!

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2005-03-06 02:18pm

First, I design a committee to aid in the writing and producing aspects of the show. This consists of Curtis Saxton, Mike Wong, Wayne Poe and Kevin Smith. Once a story line is planned and hammered out, I come to this board and post varying synopsis in bits so as not to give anything away. Then I take the crowds response and kick ass from there.

Pilot is to begin not long after the events of EIII and begin on a random planet in the outer rim. Construction site of a 'new' weapon is seen during the episode, which is an hour long. The show is developed to allow for an 'Imperial' baddy, not being Vader. Him and the Emperor make a random appearance when needed. Most likely commanding someone or showing them in the senate.

The beginnings of the Rebel Alliance are portrayed in the pilot, and in later episodes, sides shown from the Empire will be displayed.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2005-03-06 02:19pm

He doesn't have to be the main character, but having Jedi Master Luke Skywalker around to play the mentor role would really legitimize the story.

Especially if he dies at the hands of this new threat. That would be huge.

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » 2005-03-06 02:21pm

My show, 'Tina's Troubles', follows Tina the Twilek dancer in her budding holoporn career, starting with the series premier, 'Tina Does Tatooine' .....

Did I mention I'm co-producing with Bob Guccione?

Alexus · Post by **Alexus** » 2005-03-06 02:21pm

Especially if he dies at the hands of this new threat. That would be huge.

Now that would be good.

Threat: Out of my way, puny human. We have ORGANIC technology.

Jedi: ORGANIC? OH MY FUCK NO! *Run away*

Luke: War is not the Jedi wa- *gak!*

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2005-03-06 02:23pm

I might have some species with organic ships show up in one episode only to be summarily crushed under the steel boot of Imperial technology.

That would be my little "fuck you" to ST and B5.

Alexus · Post by **Alexus** » 2005-03-06 02:25pm

I like B5

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2005-03-06 02:30pm

But didn't B5 start the organic technology trend with the Vorlons?

Alexus · Post by **Alexus** » 2005-03-06 02:31pm

Dunno.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-03-06 02:38pm

I divide the Star Wars Holiday Special up into two parts, and use them as a two part pilot.

Alexus · Post by **Alexus** » 2005-03-06 02:39pm

You can't do that to the people!

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » 2005-03-06 02:43pm

NecronLord wrote:I divide the Star Wars Holiday Special up into two parts, and use them as a two part pilot.

And I thought *my* idea was pornographic.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2005-03-06 02:52pm

Then I get Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher really drunk, film them for a few days on a set left over from RotS, and pocket the rest of the budget.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2005-03-06 06:54pm

Galvatron wrote:I'm with Elfdart. Since Lucas filed for creative bankruptcy and we're not getting Episodes 7-9, it seems only fitting that we let the TV series fill that void.

I don't think it's a lack of creativity. Lucas is an old man. He wouldn't live long enough to do new ones, and after the crap he put up with in TESB as producer and ROTJ, where according to Kershner he took over directing the movie halfway through along with the AD, he doesn't trust anyone else to do it and not fuck it up.

Galvatron wrote:And I'd completely skullfuck the EU, reducing the comics and novels to a level of non-canonity on par with the Star Trek novels.

Anything that pisses on EU is good and righteous in my eyes. I did a "Why I Hate EU" post over at TFN and I had to stop... there was too much to hate about EU.

Galvatron wrote:I wonder if Mark Hamill's too busy to star in it. Ya think?

Why not? Harrison Ford did an episode of Young Indiana Jones.

Petrosjko · Post by **Petrosjko** » 2005-03-06 07:14pm

Galvatron wrote:But didn't B5 start the organic technology trend with the Vorlons?

Ooooooooooh, organic tech stuff was around long before B5. I'm not sure where it really started on TV, though one could go back to the space amoeba from TOS for its Trek debut.

Didn't TNG do some organic tech stuff too?

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2005-03-06 07:30pm

Elfdart wrote:I don't think it's a lack of creativity. Lucas is an old man. He wouldn't live long enough to do new ones, and after the crap he put up with in TESB as producer and ROTJ, where according to Kershner he took over directing the movie halfway through along with the AD, he doesn't trust anyone else to do it and not fuck it up.

I heard it differently: that Lucas kept complaining about how Kershner was "ruining [his] movie" so he locked himself in the cutting room and tried to cobble together his own edit, which he then proudly screened for the crew to the deafening sound of crickets chirping, so it was Kersh's version that we ended up with.

Elfdart wrote:
Galvatron wrote:I wonder if Mark Hamill's too busy to star in it. Ya think?
Why not? Harrison Ford did an episode of Young Indiana Jones.

Right, but a recurring role? I'd keep Luke around for at least half a season.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2005-03-06 07:32pm

Petrosjko wrote:
Galvatron wrote:But didn't B5 start the organic technology trend with the Vorlons?
Ooooooooooh, organic tech stuff was around long before B5. I'm not sure where it really started on TV, though one could go back to the space amoeba from TOS for its Trek debut.

Didn't TNG do some organic tech stuff too?

I don't recall TNG starting the "organic pwns metal tech!!!" bullshit trend. That came later with the Vorlons and then Species 8472 in Voyager, IIRC.

Coalition · Post by **Coalition** » 2005-03-06 08:42pm

Post TESB, pre ROTJ. A correllian corvette full of rebels is on the run from the Empire after Hoth. Just when you've got it sussed, forty-five minutes into the 90 minute pilot, all but three of the main characters die. These people have been well set up, you think they're going to last, but half a dozen stormtroopers manage to kill twenty rebels in a few minutes from a hundred metres. (This would also shut up Trekkies who say stormies suck)

Then our heroes have to get off the planet.

One thing that would be interesting, is in the beginning, what convinces the characters to defect is an Imperial sector admin who is smuggling spice and slaves, and a Rebel leader who is trying to help.

Later (not a season finale), the main characters meet a Rebel that is smugglnig spice, slaves, etc., and an Imperial sector admin who is trying to do the right thing. The Imperial's hands are tied due to simple lack of concern from above (backwater sector), and the need to keep the population friendly.

Essentially, the characters get a choice. Do they support the Rebel cause no matter what, or do they follow their own conscience, and clean up the spice and slave smuggling?

Hopefully, the main characters will clean up the spice and slavery, yet decide that the free choice is what they are after. So they have to take down the Rebel slaver, yet they remain rebels, and therefore shoot on sight orders apply.

The Imperial could be a decent type, who lets them get a 12 hour head start, with a handshake and a thank you.

Later, they hear that the Imperial who helped them has been shot for potential Rebel collaboration. Good way to end the spisode, where they are responsible for a decent person's death, merely by hanging around him.

Hmm, depending on the scale of the smuggling, this could turn into an entire season, where the final half hour of the episode is the Rebels managing to take down the smuggler, and delivering them to the Imperial headquarters as a smugger, and not a Rebel supporter.

While there, someone identifies them as rebels, and the Imperial governor is advised to take them into custody. He decides that they are actually fairly decent, and decides to give them a head start. The end of the episode has them escaping, and heading to a nearby planet. They get into a bar, and relax, maybe a few of the slaves decide to come with them. The news comes on, and a special announcement comes in. The Imperial officer is shown in front of a wall, and his crimes of treason and Rebel sympathy are read out. He is then shot by a firing squad.

Most of the bar is pro-Rebel, so they cheer at another dirty Imp being shot, while you zoom in on the characters, with quiet and haunted faces, knowing what the Imp was really like. Close on that.

Post by **Vympel** » 2005-03-06 08:48pm

I don't want a damn TV show. I can't imagine how they'd make it work.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2005-03-06 08:53pm

Galvatron wrote:
Elfdart wrote:I don't think it's a lack of creativity. Lucas is an old man. He wouldn't live long enough to do new ones, and after the crap he put up with in TESB as producer and ROTJ, where according to Kershner he took over directing the movie halfway through along with the AD, he doesn't trust anyone else to do it and not fuck it up.
I heard it differently: that Lucas kept complaining about how Kershner "ruining [his] movie" so he locked himself in the cutting room and tried to cobble together his own edit, which he then proudly screened for the crew to the deafening sound of crickets chirping, so it was Kersh's version that we ended up with.

I've never heard it like that.

Actually, I've never heard that story at all. Both Kershner and Lucas themselves have said multiple times that Lucas basically let Kershner do what he wanted, although they did argue on some occasional points, but nothing huge.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2005-03-06 10:05pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Actually, I've never heard that story at all. Both Kershner and Lucas themselves have said multiple times that Lucas basically let Kershner do what he wanted, although they did argue on some occasional points, but nothing huge.

I believe that story came out of Empire Building. Been years since I read it though...

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2005-03-06 10:20pm

Galvatron wrote:I heard it differently: that Lucas kept complaining about how Kershner was "ruining [his] movie" so he locked himself in the cutting room and tried to cobble together his own edit, which he then proudly screened for the crew to the deafening sound of crickets chirping, so it was Kersh's version that we ended up with.

With TESB, it was a case of Lucas spending every last dime to his name (and still having to borrow several million to finish the movie). It's believed to be the reason he never worked with Gary Kurtz again. Kershner had an interview last year (I read part at TFN) where he said Lucas and an AD directed most of ROTJ because Lucas didn't want to fire Marquand for fucking it up.

Galvatron wrote:Right, but a recurring role? I'd keep Luke around for at least half a season.

Nah, kill him off after a few episodes!