I am perplexed.

[The Grim Squeaker]

the .303 bookworm wrote:
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What do you mean they don't have a mind? Of course they have one.

Sorry, I meant that they are'nt born with an adult mind, theyre blank slates like babies.


All clones are born "as babies." There are just varying techinques that grow and educate them at different rates and manners. (Kaminoian more slowly and carefully than the flash grown/tought somewhat unstable Spaarti ones.)

And i stated differently how?
(nice post number btw)

[Noble Ire]

And i stated differently how?

You seemed to be implying clones were concieved fully grown. I may have been mistaken in interpriting your statement.

(nice post number btw)

Havent you heard? The mark of the beast has been "devalued."

[The Grim Squeaker]

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(nice post number btw)


Havent you heard? The mark of the beast has been "devalued." Wink

Oh, I Know it (616), but it's still a nice number.

[Cykeisme]

I guess a big part of this discussion goes back to whether Force sensitivity is genetic...

[Aquatain]

And if the Mediclhorins are indeed a part of the jedi and sith own genetic makeup or foring organisms that "infect" them, or live in symbiosis if you like.

Is the mediclorins a part of the jedi/sith DNA? or does it work more like "Sickness" passed down from genneration to genneration.
It is consiverble that the mediclorins divide and migrate to the fetis at some point of pregnacy,if this is the case then you would have to "infect" your clones manually if you wantet to create jedi clones.

[The Grim Squeaker]

I understood Midi's as being a type of force parasite\symbiont.

Basically Anakin would attract a shitload but a very experienced jedi master would attract a lot also.
Basically the more potential or to a lesser degree experience with the force, the more Midichlorians.

[Aquatain]

I always thought that Midichlorians was something you where born with..and a fixed number at that.

I was lead to belive that the number of Midichlorians showed how well you comunicatet (for lack of a better word) with the force, like a internetconnection (yeah i know it silly but i'm tired and it's all i come up with at the moment), the bigger and better connection facillitated by the Midichlorians the greater potential you have for growth withinn the force.

[The Grim Squeaker]

I always thought that Midichlorians was something you where born with..and a fixed number at that.

Midis are attracted to living beings correct?
Arent fetus'es alive .

I was lead to belive that the number of Midichlorians showed how well you comunicatet (for lack of a better word) with the force, like a internetconnection (yeah i know it silly but i'm tired and it's all i come up with at the moment), the bigger and better connection facillitated by the Midichlorians the greater potential you have for growth withinn the force.

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Uhm, yeah that's what i said

Basically the more potential or to a lesser degree experience with the force, the more Midichlorians.

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[Aquatain]

I misunderstood and belive you ment that they attractet Midichlorians after being born.

[Kurgan]

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(nice post number btw)


Havent you heard? The mark of the beast has been "devalued." Wink

Oh, I Know it (616), but it's still a nice number.

All depends on what language you're writing in.

Personally I would think the "flash brain imprint" method would be what likely drives a clone mad, not growth acceleration. And this would seem like the thing that would give off a "weird vibe in the Force" to Jedi, not that they just grew up fast (or some nonesense that they are "outside the Force" or even that Ysalamari could "remove" the Force from somebody, rather than letting it come back once the slug was removed from their presence... I mean Luke got his powers back when he went away from them in TTT right?). It's like the replicants in Blade Runner, what a shock to know that all those memories aren't even your's and that you'll die "young."

Can we safely say then that the Spaarti method of clone development wasn't in use during the Clone Wars (since the Clone Wars ended at the end of ROTS and we never saw any non-Jango clones or any mentions of anything related to them)? It must have happened later or been a failed experiment that wasn't generally known...

Still, if it was the reason for "banning" Clone tech, you'd think the much safer Kaminoean technique would have been viewed as okay. I mean why would the Empire ban cloning when they themselves relied on it? I know that Troopers are (as of the OT era) a mix of clones from different templates and non-clone conscripts, but you know what I mean.

[Srynerson]

Can we safely say then that the Spaarti method of clone development wasn't in use during the Clone Wars (since the Clone Wars ended at the end of ROTS and we never saw any non-Jango clones or any mentions of anything related to them)? It must have happened later or been a failed experiment that wasn't generally known...

Or at least we could safely say that the Spaarti method wasn't used to create the GAR. Recall that in AotC Dex refers to the Kaminoans as being "cloners" in a manner that suggests they are not unique and also that Taun We refers to the GAR clone army as "one of the finest we've ever created" (or words close to that). The possibility thus still exists that either the Spaarti method was in use elsewhere during the Clone Wars by other parties or that the Kaminoans use it for "discount" clone armies.

[Darth Yoshi]

Wasn't there an e-book about a Spaarti research facility?

[Admiral Drason]

And, Anakin was supposed to put the force into balance. After he went to far, it seems the job was given to his kin. After all, Midiclorians can't be genetic, other wise we would be out of jedi by Episode 3 because no jedi were supposed to get "attached"

Sure it’s genetic. The Force may be a recessive gene. Most people who are colorblind don’t have colorblind parents. How else can you explain so many Jedi children having parent who are Jedi themselves? The Jedi probably didn’t want to have an over flow of force sensitive children thus they band Jedi reproduction.

[The Jazz Intern]

And, Anakin was supposed to put the force into balance. After he went to far, it seems the job was given to his kin. After all, Midiclorians can't be genetic, other wise we would be out of jedi by Episode 3 because no jedi were supposed to get "attached"

Sure it’s genetic. The Force may be a recessive gene. Most people who are colorblind don’t have colorblind parents. How else can you explain so many Jedi children having parent who are Jedi themselves? The Jedi probably didn’t want to have an over flow of force sensitive children thus they band Jedi reproduction.

But the jedi aren't supposed to have kids intentionally. (man, the whole attachment thing is a pain to write around)

[Noble Ire]

And, Anakin was supposed to put the force into balance. After he went to far, it seems the job was given to his kin. After all, Midiclorians can't be genetic, other wise we would be out of jedi by Episode 3 because no jedi were supposed to get "attached"

Sure it’s genetic. The Force may be a recessive gene. Most people who are colorblind don’t have colorblind parents. How else can you explain so many Jedi children having parent who are Jedi themselves? The Jedi probably didn’t want to have an over flow of force sensitive children thus they band Jedi reproduction.

But the jedi aren't supposed to have kids intentionally. (man, the whole attachment thing is a pain to write around)

I believe that is what he said.

And I do believe that force sensitivity is genetic, at least in part. In Luke's new order (which is unbound by the attachment rules of the old) I seem to recall that every child of the Jedi, even ones with only one Jedi parent, were force-sensitive to some degree or another.