The Death Star and Yavin 4

[Isolder74]

There is no reason to blow up the planet, but there is no reason to not do it either. The target is the moon, and not the planet. Though what the Superlaser does to a planet is known, what it will do to a gas giant is unknown.

It my not be worth the risk. Its not like Tarkin didn't have the time to wait.

[Dakarne]

I guess he didn't want to wait an entire day for a recharge... although, to be honest, he could have blown up the main planet... and then BDZ-ed the planet.

[Trekdestroyer]

I guess he didn't want to wait an entire day for a recharge... although, to be honest, he could have blown up the main planet... and then BDZ-ed the planet.

You're an idiot so stop talking. If you knew anything about SW, you would know that only a star destroyer can perform the BDZ. That is a technique where turbolaser bombardment destroys the atmosphere and anything on the surface of the planet. The death star can't do that and even if it could, it was too far away. Now does this all make sense to you?

[Tiger Ace]

I guess he didn't want to wait an entire day for a recharge... although, to be honest, he could have blown up the main planet... and then BDZ-ed the planet.

You're an idiot so stop talking. If you knew anything about SW, you would know that only a star destroyer can perform the BDZ. That is a technique where turbolaser bombardment destroys the atmosphere and anything on the surface of the planet. The death star can't do that and even if it could, it was too far away. Now does this all make sense to you?

Now you joined the idiots ranks.

Its not something specific to an ISD, but I doubt the Death Star would get close enough to the planet to BDZ it, is the DS large enough to affect the gravity on Yavin 4?

[Spanky The Dolphin]

I guess he didn't want to wait an entire day for a recharge... although, to be honest, he could have blown up the main planet... and then BDZ-ed the planet.

You're an idiot so stop talking. If you knew anything about SW, you would know that only a star destroyer can perform the BDZ. That is a technique where turbolaser bombardment destroys the atmosphere and anything on the surface of the planet. The death star can't do that and even if it could, it was too far away. Now does this all make sense to you?

A Death Star could so perform a Base Delta Zero, you stupid little fuck. Both of the Death Stars had many more turbolaser batteries than a Star Destroyer.

And a BDZ is where the crust of a planet is uniformally melted to a certain depth, so you even got the damn definition wrong...

[Ghost Rider]

I guess he didn't want to wait an entire day for a recharge... although, to be honest, he could have blown up the main planet... and then BDZ-ed the planet.

You're an idiot so stop talking. If you knew anything about SW, you would know that only a star destroyer can perform the BDZ. That is a technique where turbolaser bombardment destroys the atmosphere and anything on the surface of the planet. The death star can't do that and even if it could, it was too far away. Now does this all make sense to you?

Now you joined the idiots ranks.

Its not something specific to an ISD, but I doubt the Death Star would get close enough to the planet to BDZ it, is the DS large enough to affect the gravity on Yavin 4?

Yes he is. Sorry, a Base Delta Zero is an act that is performed and can be done by other ships then ISDs. Or Greivous somehow gained ISDs. So trekdestroyer is proving he dumber then shit.

Dakarne, still is forgetting that while they could do a BDZ, why? The Rebels aren't running and need to destroy this object, so destroying the gas giant is a useless waste of energy.

As for the range bit Ace, given the range of TLs they can easily accomplish this goal without any sort of gravitional distubrance.

[Tiger Ace]

Okey, thanks, though if the DS was orbiting Yavin 4, what kind of effect would it have on Yavin 4?

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Okey, thanks, though if the DS was orbiting Yavin 4, what kind of effect would it have on Yavin 4?

Side-Effects

In terms of tides and celestial dynamics, the arrival of a Death Star is equivalent to the arrival of a new moon. The presence and motion of an object of this size has the potential to perturb the orbits of a planetary or satellite systems. The gravitational tug exerted on a nearby moon by the Death Star effects an exchange of orbital energy and angular momentum, and if an encounter is close enough and of the right duration then the size and eccentricity of the moon's orbit may be substantially permanently altered. A moon with a naturally short orbital period may suffer more severe perturbations, if it passes the Death Star multiple times. Less massive objects will tend to be more greatly affected. In extreme cases, a moon may be perturbed into collision with its planet, or unbound into interplanetary space.

In some planetary systems the orbits of the smallest moons and the planetary ring particles are a self-regulated by a delicate balance of orbital gravitational resonances. In such systems, the direct pertubation of one or more moons may eventually cause further perturbations, indirectly affecting other moons and planetary ring particles as well. The long-term dynamical effects may be chaotic.

[Mad]

Back before the redesign of starwars.com, there was a question on the "Ask the Jedi Council" and the answer was that the Death Star wasn't powerful enough to destroy Yavin.

So that would appear to put Yavin at a higher density than previously assumed, since the assumptions made previously would have allowed the Death Star to have just enough firepower to take out Yavin, albiet slowly.

Alternatively, the DS had enough firepower to destroy Yavin, but would've left a huge, expanding cloud of gas that would've obscured a clear shot for either the superlaser or turbolasers. And because it is expanding, the Death Star would have to take even longer to get around it. (This would still fall under "not powerful enough" because it would've made the situation worse for the Imperials at the DS' power level.)

I guess he didn't want to wait an entire day for a recharge... although, to be honest, he could have blown up the main planet... and then BDZ-ed the planet.

That would take longer, though, than simply going around Yavin and firing a single superlaser blast at the planet. Especially with that expanding cloud that is currently un-becoming Yavin in the way, absorbing energy from weapons fire.

[Ender]

It's a big fucking galaxy and Yavin is an arse-backwards planet in the middle of nowhere. There are other places to get stupid gems.

THANK YOU! Finally, somone else with a sense of perspetive stops the stupidity

[Ender]

I guess he didn't want to wait an entire day for a recharge... although, to be honest, he could have blown up the main planet... and then BDZ-ed the planet.

You're an idiot so stop talking. If you knew anything about SW, you would know that only a star destroyer can perform the BDZ. That is a technique where turbolaser bombardment destroys the atmosphere and anything on the surface of the planet. The death star can't do that and even if it could, it was too far away. Now does this all make sense to you?

Wow, you really are a dumb motherfucker.

A BDZ is an oiperation that can be performed by any craft with sufficient fdirepower. The DS more then qualifies.

[Isolder74]

It's a big fucking galaxy and Yavin is an arse-backwards planet in the middle of nowhere. There are other places to get stupid gems.

THANK YOU! Finally, somone else with a sense of perspetive stops the stupidity

Yes, The gems are the least of Tarkins worries. The truth opf the matter is that the death star is not going to make much of a dent on a Gas Giant that is large enought to be classed as brown dwarf star. Yavin 4 is gigantic, and is orbited by several habital moons. Aren't the gems a product market created by Lando Callsisian after the battle anyway. The idea that the death star can blow up a planet any planet despite the size is silly.

[Ghost Rider]

It's a big fucking galaxy and Yavin is an arse-backwards planet in the middle of nowhere. There are other places to get stupid gems.

THANK YOU! Finally, somone else with a sense of perspetive stops the stupidity

Yes, The gems are the least of Tarkins worries. The truth opf the matter is that the death star is not going to make much of a dent on a Gas Giant that is large enought to be classed as brown dwarf star. Yavin 4 is gigantic, and is orbited by several habital moons. Aren't the gems a product market created by Lando Callsisian after the battle anyway. The idea that the death star can blow up a planet any planet despite the size is silly.

It's not that...one has to show said planet can take the amount of energy the DS can output.

No one is going automatically the DS is going to blow any planet, but given the energy needed to do what it did to Alderaan, one has to show that energy is incapable of destroying something the size of Yavin 4.

As to the other part, most has already been covered, ranging from refire times to just pointless waste when moving around it would be sufficent.

[Isolder74]

now that I think about it the most likely affect on the gas giant might be to turn it into a mini star for maybe 10 - 20 years rather that it exploding. Yavin is big enought to be near the threashhold between planet and star.

Anyway it was only a wait of 15 minutes so what is the big problem.

BTW a gas giant does not have a 'surface' for the Superlaser to interact with. Darkstar aside Allderaan did not begin exploding until the beam touched the planet's surface.

[Dakarne]

Anyway it was only a wait of 15 minutes so what is the big problem.

That was the DSII, the DSI had a wait of 24hours...

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Anyway it was only a wait of 15 minutes so what is the big problem.

That was the DSII, the DSI had a wait of 24hours...

I believe he means the time it took for the Death Star to orbit around Yavin for Yavin 4 to come into range.

[Crossroads Inc.]

The problem with the EU is that they often try to explain things in the Movies with overly complicated and absurd reasons...

When looking for the answer "Why didn't the DS Blow up Yavin4" Which is easier...
*Because it had some crystal mining production that was found there and no where else in the galaxy.*
Or
*Because Tarkin wanted to take his bloody time smiting the Rebels once and for all.*

[Isolder74]

Anyway it was only a wait of 15 minutes so what is the big problem.

That was the DSII, the DSI had a wait of 24hours...

I believe he means the time it took for the Death Star to orbit around Yavin for Yavin 4 to come into range.

Indeed I was. 15 mins to swing around the planet all the while giving the Rebels an ulcer

[Patrick Degan]

It's always better to go for a direct shot at the intended target. It wasn't a question of Tarkin wanting to take his time to "savour the moment" but a matter of orbital mechanics and waiting for the optimum targeting solution.

Also, the Death Star's targeting computers couldn't "see" Yavin-4 through the bulk of the planet. It is rather that the display relayed data from the astrogation charts and tracked the moon's orbit while the Death Star closed on its own orbit to intercept the moon. Yavin-4's path and velocity would be known, fixed quantities and not at all difficult to project on a screen.

[Guardsman Bass]

If you count Shadow Academy from the YJK, then Corusca gems can only be found in Yavin's atmosphere.

[Pcm979]

Jesus Q. Christ on a pink Segway, why do the EU authors have to have such limited imaginations? Why?!

[Spanky The Dolphin]

If you count Shadow Academy from the YJK, then Corusca gems can only be found in Yavin's atmosphere.

Same in WEG's Galaxy Guide 2, which considering the publishing dates, I would assume where it originates.

But I think the gems have only been actually brought up in regards to the topic of destroying Yavin first just to flex nerd muscles and show how much they know.

[Noble Ire]

If you count Shadow Academy from the YJK, then Corusca gems can only be found in Yavin's atmosphere.

Of course, this begs the question of why there aren't dozens of mining stations orbiting it.

[Dakarne]

Jesus Q. Christ on a pink Segway, why do the EU authors have to have such limited imaginations? Why?!

Because it would be more expensive to hire a more skilled author...

Also: Jesus Q. Christ on a Pink Segway? What are you on?

Of course, this begs the question of why there aren't dozens of mining stations orbiting it

that would be too easy... of course, I imagine that Corusca Gems are only found at Yavin, but similarly useful Gems are also found elsewhere in the galaxy...

[Spanky The Dolphin]

If you count Shadow Academy from the YJK, then Corusca gems can only be found in Yavin's atmosphere.

Of course, this begs the question of why there aren't dozens of mining stations orbiting it.

Could be that demand goes up and down through the decades.