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Rogue 9 wrote:Wow. If I hadn't seen his earlier Imperium class, I'd say we'd found the limits of fanwank. :wtf:
Bah! We haven't even begun to plum the depths of fanwank.

In some of my more wankish fics that I never compleated, I've had fighters that could probably take that thing out.

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Anomie wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:Wow. If I hadn't seen his earlier Imperium class, I'd say we'd found the limits of fanwank. :wtf:
Bah! We haven't even begun to plum the depths of fanwank.

In some of my more wankish fics that I never compleated, I've had fighters that could probably take that thing out.

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Elheru Aran wrote:Depends on your definition of 'wank', though. For example, how do you propose to power said planet-buster, considering that it needs to have a certain aesthetic, meaning it's thinner in breadth than in length? If you're going with a DSII-size reactor, might as well cobble two of 'em onto the end of this wankship, and then it'd REALLY be a wanker there... :P
It need not even be superlaser armed. Turbolasers are perfectly effective.

But if it is, an Eclipse type superlaser is more than sufficient. More so, scratch that and just put as many guns and shields as possible on it and you have a highly effective mobile fleet base, quite useful for planetary sieges and invasions single handedly. Swapping that out for an elemental furnace, a la the World Devastators, or a Galaxy Gun-like missile bay and you still have a highly effective weapon.

And all well within the capacity of the Galactic Empire's immense resource base and infrastructure, well within their capacity.
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Aw, c'mon. My hypothetical uber-cruiser might not be quite as massive as DS2, but you can still turn it sideways and hide seventeen of the original Death Star behind it. It's length is a little over one-fifth the diameter of Earth. Not giving this puppy a full-scale superlaser would be criminal.
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I thought Rogue 9's funny commentary came from SB.com....
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Rogue 9 wrote:Except, of course, for the 3 km bridge windows and so forth. :P
Sounding all hand to battlestations on that thing should be intresting. First the crew need to run a mile or so to the nearest turbolift stations(or similar), change car a few times before running the last few miles to reach thir posts. Not only the battle but the entire war would be over by then...
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there must be reason (IIRC) there's no non-spherical ships that are more massive the the Eclipse-class SSD, only space stations
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Rogue 9 wrote:Yeah, well I can't take credit. The only thing I did with that was clean up spelling. (And reading over it again, it seems I missed a couple things.)
It is costumary and sensible to give credits and provide the source of any original material you're posting, if it's not your own.
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Lord Revan wrote:there must be reason (IIRC) there's no non-spherical ships that are more massive the the Eclipse-class SSD, only space stations
Yes.

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NecronLord wrote:
Lord Revan wrote:there must be reason (IIRC) there's no non-spherical ships that are more massive the the Eclipse-class SSD, only space stations
Yes.

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nice one, but still there might be reasons why we don't see ships of this size in official SW
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Is there any information about what that ship is designed to accomplish? I can't imagine anything it could do that multiple fleets couldn't do at least as well. Also, I can't help but picture the front end of that ship snapping off like a breadstick as soon as the engines start. It looks like an afterthought by the designer, and a poorly planned one at that.
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CDiehl wrote:Is there any information about what that ship is designed to accomplish? I can't imagine anything it could do that multiple fleets couldn't do at least as well. Also, I can't help but picture the front end of that ship snapping off like a breadstick as soon as the engines start. It looks like an afterthought by the designer, and a poorly planned one at that.
As far as the Imperium goes, it comes with a little bit of backstory:
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UGH. The Imperium at least had nice lines, even if it was hirrendously oversized. This one is just fugly.
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Yeah... this thing just looks more like the Bulk Cruiser of Doom™ than a symbol of Imperial Ass-kickery.
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Colonel Olrik wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:Yeah, well I can't take credit. The only thing I did with that was clean up spelling. (And reading over it again, it seems I missed a couple things.)
It is costumary and sensible to give credits and provide the source of any original material you're posting, if it's not your own.
It's been recycled through a couple different threads about the Ultra Star Destroyer. I'll see if I can find the original credit; I got it off of Alyeska who got it off of someone else.

Edit: That someone else being E1701 from SB.com. Sorry about that; I'll edit the other post with the credit.
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Will do. Trying to rip someone off was the furthest thing from my mind; I just thought it was funny. Won't happen again. :oops:
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Wow... that's just... wow. I liked the earlier one better... but I think the best way to describe those is ridiculously huge.

I think the Imperium could probably hold an entire fleet in it as well... it's bigger than the Death Star (first one at least)... :wanker:

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I want one. :twisted:
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Honestly, wouldn't a warship based on the Darksaber, from the EU novel of the same name, be a better choice? Just add shield generators, turbolaser and blaster batteries for medium and short range defense, and several hangers for shuttles, fighters, and bombers. You can probably build two to three Darksabers for the price of one Death Star-- more bang for the buck.
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Sidewinder wrote:Honestly, wouldn't a warship based on the Darksaber, from the EU novel of the same name, be a better choice? Just add shield generators, turbolaser and blaster batteries for medium and short range defense, and several hangers for shuttles, fighters, and bombers. You can probably build two to three Darksabers for the price of one Death Star-- more bang for the buck.
actually you would just build another Death Star (perhaps just in different shape), I'm cursed (or blessed depending on your POV) with reasonble good memory and IIRC the only meaningfull diffrence between Darksaber and Death Star is that the Darksaber lack the garrison and related support equipment that the Death Star has (this includes the defenses). So what your suggesting is not any cheaper then the DS1 (maybe cheaper then DS2, but that's another thing).
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Sidewinder wrote:Honestly, wouldn't a warship based on the Darksaber, from the EU novel of the same name, be a better choice? Just add shield generators, turbolaser and blaster batteries for medium and short range defense, and several hangers for shuttles, fighters, and bombers. You can probably build two to three Darksabers for the price of one Death Star-- more bang for the buck.
Precisely the idea i had.

For the expensive of a single DS, the Galactic Empire could easily build fleets of automated Darksaber weapons fitted with ISD scale shields and defensive weapons, and like the World Devastators slaved to Palpatine's commands. Instantly you have an armada of world killers capable of extending the hand of the Empire further than a single massive battleship (like the Death Star) could. Being more numerous, also, if the Rebels manage to destroy one or two or ever a dozen, there would be dozens more waiting. In fact, if they ever found a way to replicate SunCrusher technology, the next step would be outfitting them to be system-killers.

The main folly of the Death Star was that it was a one hit wonder. At that size and capacity only one or two could ever be built. In fact, for the billions of ISDs and SSDs that could be built for ONE Death Star (or so i've been told) it would have been more intelligent to simply build those ships and win through sheer numbers of conventional weapons instead.

The Darksaber, however, was a failiure not because of the concept, but because it was built by the Hutts who cut every corner they could. Had teh Empire built it, surely it would have been done far better.

And as i said in an earlier post, all well within the industrial capacity of the Empire.

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What I don't get is how Death-Star Superlasers can get stuck in anything. If you look at the ICS, I seem to recall that the actual laser structures took up quite a large portion of the internal structure of the Death Star. You can't just slap a dish on the side of a sufficiently large ship and call it a planet-destroying superlaser.
Unfortunately I don't have my ICS with me right now, so I can't back this up. But I'm very sure about being right.
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LaserRifleofDoom wrote:What I don't get is how Death-Star Superlasers can get stuck in anything. If you look at the ICS, I seem to recall that the actual laser structures took up quite a large portion of the internal structure of the Death Star. You can't just slap a dish on the side of a sufficiently large ship and call it a planet-destroying superlaser.
Unfortunately I don't have my ICS with me right now, so I can't back this up. But I'm very sure about being right.
Aside from the Eclipse super vessels, I don't think there are any SW ships that are equipped with superlasers that don't dominate their entire structure. Is there any mention of ISDs or even SSDs (or ships analogus in size) that simply have a superlaser stuck in them?
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