Death Star over Mustafar

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-01-12 11:42pm

Mustafar has no moons, but Jestafed, the planet it orbits, a gas giant, could easily have more than just Mustafar, maybe many.

Additionally, Complete Locations says that there's another gas giant, Lefrani, that tugs on Mustafar gravitationally. The object blocking the sun could just as easily be that.

It can't be the Death Star/Great Weapon, because when we saw it it had a skeletal structure which could be seen through. Something like that can't eclipse a sun like that, because the light would go right through it, perhaps to such a degree that the batlestation might be rendered unseen.

I can't address the fourth detail other than to further insist that other than both being made up of circles, the images look nothing alike.

What you are imagining is not a Death Star. To me it looks much more likely to be a highlighted location on Mustafar itself.

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2006-01-12 11:54pm

Any tips on taking screenshots? The only program I have for doing it is Windows Movie Maker, and it's giving me problems.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-01-13 12:03am

Don't bother. The one in the movie is essentially exactly the same as the image shown on the OS.

LongVin · Post by **LongVin** » 2006-01-13 12:16am

For what its worth the Wookiepedia estimates that the scene with Tarkin at the end during the construction of the death star is only 10-2 years before Episode IV basing it solely on his appearance and that if the scene was right after the events of Episode III he would appear much much younger.

http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Sta ... f_the_Sith

Major Disaster · Post by **Major Disaster** » 2006-01-13 03:40am

President Sharky wrote:The Death Star doesn't appear to be located in the Mustafar system when we see it at the end. Looks like its in deep space to me.

logicly the first thing they woull build (apart from the main superstructure) would be the Main drive and hyperdrive systemd, in case it was located.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2006-01-13 07:08am

Jadeite wrote:No, we only see it from the bridge of the SD, which could easily be sunward of it, thus the shadow would be on the side opposite of them.

We also see an approach to the SD before it cuts to the bridge scene, and, IIRC, the bridge on the SD doesn't cast a shadow.

Anguirus · Post by **Anguirus** » 2006-01-13 09:11am

For what its worth the Wookiepedia estimates that the scene with Tarkin at the end during the construction of the death star is only 10-2 years before Episode IV basing it solely on his appearance and that if the scene was right after the events of Episode III he would appear much much younger.

It's wrong. The novelization, Dark Lord, and Lucas' own words clinch that.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-01-13 01:10pm

First of all, Mustafar isn't a moon, it just passes ridiculously close to Jestefad.

Secondly, this could also be a diagram showing TGW being constructed somewhere else.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-01-13 02:06pm

I think it makes more sense in context for it to be a display highlighting a geographical location on the planet, though.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2006-01-13 02:14pm

True, but the command center was covered with tactical displays and diagrams, so the council could keep an eye on multiple locations at once. The construction site of their safest hope for victory, would be one to pay attention to, I'd think.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-01-13 02:27pm

Yeah, but even image-wise, the idea that the display is for the Great Weapon really doesn't make any sense. I mean, how does it relate? There's nothing there to establish such a connection.

Major Disaster · Post by **Major Disaster** » 2006-01-13 05:05pm

In ATOC they had the Plans on Geonosis they were then taken to that big city planet, that i cannot spell the name of so i wont bother, bt it wasent under construction there either

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2006-01-13 05:09pm

Major Disaster wrote:In ATOC they had the Plans on Geonosis they were then taken to that big city planet, that i cannot spell the name of so i wont bother, bt it wasent under construction there either

Corusant is hardly one of hardest planets to spell and also knowing that Darth Sidious is behind the CIS recovering those plans is simple matter (Darth Tyranus visited Sidious at Corusant even during the late stages of the Clone Wars even though Corusant is Republic controlled)

Major Disaster · Post by **Major Disaster** » 2006-01-13 05:33pm

Lord Revan wrote:
Major Disaster wrote:In ATOC they had the Plans on Geonosis they were then taken to that big city planet, that i cannot spell the name of so i wont bother, bt it wasent under construction there either
Corusant is hardly one of hardest planets to spell and also knowing that Darth Sidious is behind the CIS recovering those plans is simple matter (Darth Tyranus visited Sidious at Corusant even during the late stages of the Clone Wars even though Corusant is Republic controlled)

It is if you are DYSLEXIC

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-01-13 06:52pm

For the record, it's Coruscant.

I'm dyslexic and it's an ease for me to spell, but then, I actually learned to get past my disabilities and not use them as a lazy crutch.

Instead of typing "that big city planet, that i cannot spell the name of so i wont bother," you could have looked up the damn name.

RThurmont · Post by **RThurmont** » 2006-01-13 08:03pm

Actually you know after seeing that second screenshot I'm waffling back away from Spanky's position. Both spheres, the large one, and the small one, appear to have concentric circles suggesting DS-type apetures. The only thing they lack is an equatorial waistband trench, although considering this is Star Wars, there are two of them, and one of them is much larger than the other, I do have to say it's far more likely to be an "easter egg" placement of a Death Star than, say, an Io-like planetary body.

Oh and by the way, I've never had any problems spelling Coruscant. I've always found the name to have a certain magical quality, like some majestic radiant gem through which life eminates. It really annoys me, therefore, when people do whine about being unable to spell it.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2006-01-14 03:34am

Major Disaster wrote:
Lord Revan wrote:
Major Disaster wrote:In ATOC they had the Plans on Geonosis they were then taken to that big city planet, that i cannot spell the name of so i wont bother, bt it wasent under construction there either
Corusant is hardly one of hardest planets to spell and also knowing that Darth Sidious is behind the CIS recovering those plans is simple matter (Darth Tyranus visited Sidious at Corusant even during the late stages of the Clone Wars even though Corusant is Republic controlled)
It is if you are DYSLEXIC

I too am DYSLEXIC if only slightly yet my posts amost always contain correct spelling punctuation and grammer. Excuses cover idiocy only so far.

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2006-01-14 09:28am

RThurmont wrote:Actually you know after seeing that second screenshot I'm waffling back away from Spanky's position. Both spheres, the large one, and the small one, appear to have concentric circles suggesting DS-type apetures. The only thing they lack is an equatorial waistband trench, although considering this is Star Wars, there are two of them, and one of them is much larger than the other, I do have to say it's far more likely to be an "easter egg" placement of a Death Star than, say, an Io-like planetary body.

Oh and by the way, I've never had any problems spelling Coruscant. I've always found the name to have a certain magical quality, like some majestic radiant gem through which life eminates. It really annoys me, therefore, when people do whine about being unable to spell it.

Except they do have the equatorial band. It's just going diagnally.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2006-01-14 01:52pm

The "trench" of that "death star" doesn't even go through the center of its alledged "superlaser aperature", it bisects it assymetrically and the line actually goes through the "aperature". The Death Star diagram's trench doesn't go through the aperature, and if it did, it would bisect the thing symmetrically.

In other words, I agree with Spanky.

As for estimating Tarkin's age, he could've had a facelift. Or some surgery. Or longevity treatments that explain why he doesn't look all that different in ANH and ROTS.

Major Disaster · Post by **Major Disaster** » 2006-01-14 04:44pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:For the record, it's Coruscant.

I'm dyslexic and it's an ease for me to spell, but then, I actually learned to get past my disabilities and not use them as a lazy crutch.

Instead of typing "that big city planet, that i cannot spell the name of so i wont bother," you could have looked up the damn name.

Lord Pounder wrote:
Major Disaster wrote:
Lord Revan wrote:Corusant is hardly one of hardest planets to spell and also knowing that Darth Sidious is behind the CIS recovering those plans is simple matter (Darth Tyranus visited Sidious at Corusant even during the late stages of the Clone Wars even though Corusant is Republic controlled)
It is if you are DYSLEXIC
I too am DYSLEXIC if only slightly yet my posts amost always contain correct spelling punctuation and grammer. Excuses cover idiocy only so far.

I also have autism

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2006-01-14 04:49pm

Not to be a strike against other members who are autistic or have similar disabilities, but wow, that suddenly explains everything...

Jedi Guardian · Post by **Jedi Guardian** » 2006-01-29 03:19pm

Jadeite wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote: Second, you're definately in the realm of fantasy, Jadeite. You think that resembles or is indicative of a Death Star? That? You have highlighted two concentric circles with three lines connecting them. That's it. I thought you were actually refering to something else completely, because that didn't even CROSS my mind. It's looks more like some feature on the planet being indicated, and nothing like a superlaser aperature. that's not a Death Star, that's Mustafar.

You're on crack, my friend...
Well, apparently since things need to be bludgeoned into your mind, let's compare shall we?

ZOMG they're the same!

They can't be the same they look to different and the one at the top looks like a planet

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2006-01-29 06:38pm

Screens in all the movies are filled with geometric shapes of vague meaning or purpose. So one happens to look like a Death Star.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2006-01-29 09:00pm

Thread Necro...don't do it...second time Jedi Guardian.