Has any Sith Lord broken the rules?

Koolaidkirby · Post by **Koolaidkirby** » 2006-02-05 09:32pm

there was also that dark jedi person in one of the YJK books, had a whole academy devoted to training sith, under the watchfull eye of the "Ressurected" palpatine.

000 · Post by **000** » 2006-02-05 10:32pm

That was Brakiss, a dark jedi training dark jedi knights.

And Palpatine was a hoax.

NeoGoomba · Post by **NeoGoomba** » 2006-02-05 11:23pm

One thing I was curious about, but I suspect that it has more to do with Vader's potential than anything else, was that in Dark Lord then Palpatine was considering possible attempts on his life by Vader, he realized that Vader wouldn't be a threat...YET, and that if he had killed Obi-Wan, Anakin would have tried to take Palpatine out right away. But with his massive potential, would Palpatine have spared Anakin after a failed assasination, merely to ensure that the most powerful Force user indeed become a Sith Lord eventually? I got the impression (pehaps wrongly) that Palpatine would have continued training Vader even in such an eventuality, simply because of his potential and the near impossibility of finding an equal replacement

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2006-02-06 01:30am

As The Prime Necromancer pointed out, it's not set in stone that Sith succession must take place via murder. Furthermore, as NRS Guardian mentioned, taking on one and only one apprentice is just plain pragmaticism.

However, this cycle of succession is sure to generate stronger and stronger Sith Lords until you get a near Apotheosis ala Sidious. Once this happens, the Jedi are finished. And the new Sith god can do whatever the hell he or she wants.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2006-02-06 07:57am

NeoGoomba wrote:One thing I was curious about, but I suspect that it has more to do with Vader's potential than anything else, was that in Dark Lord then Palpatine was considering possible attempts on his life by Vader, he realized that Vader wouldn't be a threat...YET, and that if he had killed Obi-Wan, Anakin would have tried to take Palpatine out right away. But with his massive potential, would Palpatine have spared Anakin after a failed assasination, merely to ensure that the most powerful Force user indeed become a Sith Lord eventually? I got the impression (pehaps wrongly) that Palpatine would have continued training Vader even in such an eventuality, simply because of his potential and the near impossibility of finding an equal replacement

Given his really bold statement to Yoda in RoTS...he probably would have.

A lot of what the Sith tradition and creeds look, seem to insure that succession takes place.

Also look at Luke. Here was a person that had all of Anakin's potential and then some(both Palpatine and Vader said as much) and basically the two of them were drooling at using him to kill the other.

Eleas · Post by **Eleas** » 2006-02-06 06:45pm

Bane's 'Rule of Two' was certainly a paradigm change, but I doubt it was as radical a change as some would have it. Judging from what we see in KotOR 1 and 2, the core tenets were already in place -- master versus apprentice. It appears that all Bane did was institute a paramount need for secrecy and, as a consequence, limited numbers.

Also, recall the reaction of Palpatine to Skywalker's attempt to oust him in his clone chamber. Luke was not killed, in the end, only made to submit. It strikes me as fairly likely that while a Sith Lord would certainly wish to defeat his apprentice in an event of a power struggle, he would not always be inclined to destroy him. A wise Sith Lord would likely not take that step until he felt that the apprentice had outlived his usefulness.

One must remember that to the Sith, being ambitious is a sign of strength. It shows that you're willing to rise still higher, and the true believers among the Sith would see that as a quality; healthy and even admirable.