Lucasfilm to fans : Fuck You!

[Slartibartfast]

Vandaronas is a pussy. He eggs at people even if he doesn't know if they're done anything bad either. He even admitted to "not knowing why Dark Moose banned you, but I agree with him completely". I can quote him on that.

[Slartibartfast]

Who Polices the Police?

The admins. And because there's rarely, if ever, a disagreement between mods and admins, we're quite sure we're right.

also later:

You are not acheiving a thing. I'm not intimidated by you and all your complaining posts at all.

In the meanwhile, I'm going to stop approving your threads and start ignoring you. I really have no idea why you were banned in the first place, but it doesn't matter to me. I trust the judgment of my fellow mods. They're mods for a reason.

Out.

This isn't really a quote, but I was a bit pissed off at a time. I did it a bit for humour tho

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... +moose&f=1

[Meest]

Date Posted: May 25, 2004 1:49 AM
This message was edited by Master Mike... on May 25, 2004 9:14 AM Locked

"THIS IS GOING TO THE NEXT LEVEL."

How exciting...

"YOU HAVE TILL NEXT MONDAY TO ANSWER".

You know what, I'll give you an answer right now. Bring it on, sucka!

Come on feedback readers, let's all point and laugh.

* Points at misguided poster and laughs *

Date Posted: May 18, 2004 3:57 PM Locked

Simply because you pay for Hyperspace does not mean that you are exempt from the rules of the forum.

Anyhow I banned you to get you attention as you have continued to post redundant topics, even though two other moderators have warned you about doing so.

You will be unbanned tomorrow. In the meantime I suggest you familiarise yourself with the Star Wars forum terms of service and takje some time to read the Welcome and Announcements Forum where you will find all the information to ensure that your continued use of these forums can be assured.

Date Posted: May 24, 2004 4:51 AM Locked

"Didn't you say in the same post that you'd rather abstain from banning me? So why is my account locked nontheless?"

You were locked to get your attention. You'll be unlocked now.

"If that was the reason why I am locked, then I really don't know whether to apologize or laugh. Didn't you see the smiley? It was a harmless joke, no need to be so touchy."

I didn't see any smiley. Either way, it wasn't particularly tasteful.

"OK fine, perhaps I opened old scars, but that's quite an overreaction, now isn't it?"

There was no over-reaction. I just don't like people bad mouthing people I know. Like I said, you were just banned to get your attention. You're unlocked now.

Date Posted: May 27, 2004 8:55 PM Locked

Pabs said this in the thread in question:

I will make a request. If I've angered, disappointed or otherwise illicited a reaction, please WRITE to the Insider. Let them know! Tell them to fire me! Or give me a raise! Or print a retraction. Or something.


I'd open up your Insider and look for a contact address. This is completely outside the scope of Forum Moderation.

Date Posted: May 23, 2004 10:46 AM

From your other posts in Feedback I now gather that you provided a non existing e-mail address.

Please use the contact info below.

"Who do I contact if I have questions regarding my access code or membership to the new Fan Club?"
General customer service questions will be handled by our fulfillment partners at CDS. Send an email to swicustserv@cdsfulfillment.com or call (866) 205-0034.

Bolded parts by me, looks a bit nitpicky, but it's examples of a few seperate mods acting a touch childish. First example can be taken as a joke, but he does egg the person on and tells people to laugh. Third example is the best, using banning to punish someone for talking about a friend. 4th and 5th ones I just found a bit dubious, though not posted by same mods, does show reluctance on the issue, can see in the 5th quote the mod gives generous info on customer support.

[Axis Kast]

Anyway, back on the original subject ...

Does anyone else find that Lucas really seems to have made the latest pair of Star Wars films with a much younger fanbase in mind?

While I fully understand LucasFilm's drive to cash in on a phenomena and ensnare the latest generation within the magic of Star Wars, I have to say I feel at least some resentment at the fact that it seems as if Lucas and others expect that no matter what kind of disaster they put on film or in print, it'll still sell.

The same problem, like I said before, appeared also in BattleTech, where WizKids recently cut back on tournament, prize, and fluff support on the theory that even if some took a principled stand and fled, they'll still keep older players too apathetic to fight back.

In some ways, I wonder if a truly venerable universe can ever avoid being "cheesed" and dumbed down into a purely money-making operation that conveys the sense that it really thinks it doesn't need to worry about quality anymore.

[Mange]

Anyway, back on the original subject ...

Does anyone else find that Lucas really seems to have made the latest pair of Star Wars films with a much younger fanbase in mind?

While I fully understand LucasFilm's drive to cash in on a phenomena and ensnare the latest generation within the magic of Star Wars, I have to say I feel at least some resentment at the fact that it seems as if Lucas and others expect that no matter what kind of disaster they put on film or in print, it'll still sell.

The same problem, like I said before, appeared also in BattleTech, where WizKids recently cut back on tournament, prize, and fluff support on the theory that even if some took a principled stand and fled, they'll still keep older players too apathetic to fight back.

In some ways, I wonder if a truly venerable universe can ever avoid being "cheesed" and dumbed down into a purely money-making operation that conveys the sense that it really thinks it doesn't need to worry about quality anymore.

Was that the original subject? Anyway, the forum feedback at the OS forums is a joke. Its seems as if they're neglecting negative feedback and if they are answering to criticism, they redicule the poster. I found a very interesting passage in one of the threads over at the forum feedback section. In response to the following question some guy asked:

Hi,

I've noticed in the last few days a bit more tension in the FF area. It almost seems like there is more hostility, anger, or pressure. It's not a criticism, just an genuine obversvation.

I just wanted to make sure that everything was going well since I DO care about this site and the people who help make it the place that it is. SOME of the members here forget or don't understand what it means to moderate a forum with millions of pages and members.

If, by chance, there IS something specific that we as members can do to alleviate some problems, realize that all you have to do is ask.

Vandaronas answered:

No, things are about usual in my opinion. There's always lots of complaints in FF from trolls.... we just usually don't approve them.

Now that's interesting. If you send negative feedback, the moderators considers you to be a troll. Hmmm, could that be the reason the forum administrators doesn't seem to be aware of the problems that inherits the OS forums?

[Meest]

Date Posted: May 5, 2004 11:42 AM

I only joined this site in March.

You created this account in March. But you have had several other accounts here, I'm sure.

I can't simply ignore the stunning similarities between the various accounts.

Firstly, the screen names. They all fit a certain profile. The use of capital letters, etc...

Secondly, the threads you post in, most notably the Wrestling thread. You seem to share several interests with the other accounts. Including your love for Liverpool.

Thirdly, the posting style. Again, a lot of similarities with those other accounts I'm looking at.

So I'm not inclined to unlock you at this time.

I had to post this one, here's example of their ability to find socks. So basically they banned people supporting your side of the argument then claiming without proof that you are a sock.

[Lord of the Farce]

-snip

I had to post this one, here's example of their ability to find socks. So basically they banned people supporting your side of the argument then claiming without proof that you are a sock.

*Shakes head* Whatever happened to the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" over there? Sheesh, if I ever end up over there, I hope I never blab the fact that I have a "Liverpool" pillow cover (never mind the fact that I have no idea how it got into my hands).

[Master of Ossus]

-snip

I had to post this one, here's example of their ability to find socks. So basically they banned people supporting your side of the argument then claiming without proof that you are a sock.

*Shakes head* Whatever happened to the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" over there? Sheesh, if I ever end up over there, I hope I never blab the fact that I have a "Liverpool" pillow cover (never mind the fact that I have no idea how it got into my hands).

Why didn't they just run a fucking IP check, then?

[Rightous Fist Of Heaven]

I had to post this one, here's example of their ability to find socks. So basically they banned people supporting your side of the argument then claiming without proof that you are a sock.

*Shakes head* Whatever happened to the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" over there? Sheesh, if I ever end up over there, I hope I never blab the fact that I have a "Liverpool" pillow cover (never mind the fact that I have no idea how it got into my hands).

Why didn't they just run a fucking IP check, then?

Because
A) They are morons
B) They dont want to
C) They cant

[PainRack]

Anyway, back on the original subject ...

Does anyone else find that Lucas really seems to have made the latest pair of Star Wars films with a much younger fanbase in mind?

While I fully understand LucasFilm's drive to cash in on a phenomena and ensnare the latest generation within the magic of Star Wars, I have to say I feel at least some resentment at the fact that it seems as if Lucas and others expect that no matter what kind of disaster they put on film or in print, it'll still sell.

It just seems to me that somewhere in between two decades, they forgot that the orginal audience grew up, and they forgot that Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers was only campy. It wasn't childish.

I don't really mind campy star wars. Yes, throw me a Death star with one fatal flaw, that can be destroyed by a single pilot. Repeat that for Anakin Skywalker if you must. Just give it to me like a classic Space Opera or Cowboy Western, don't force feed me Toy Story in Space.

The same problem, like I said before, appeared also in BattleTech, where WizKids recently cut back on tournament, prize, and fluff support on the theory that even if some took a principled stand and fled, they'll still keep older players too apathetic to fight back.

In some ways, I wonder if a truly venerable universe can ever avoid being "cheesed" and dumbed down into a purely money-making operation that conveys the sense that it really thinks it doesn't need to worry about quality anymore.

Well, the real btech players, those who spent more money on minatures and other btech stuff than on their CARS, have already left the arena after FASA incompetence. So, its just a continuing trend.

Besides, no real mechwarrior thinks Dark Age is Battletech.

[Mange]

Perhaps this is unnecessary now when things seems to have quiet down, but here's the e-mailaddress to the OS forums webmaster:

webmaster@starwars.com

Not sure what good it could do to contact him, but hey, it's good to have the address.

[nightmare]

This is an example of what one mod think should be the standard for mods:

The purpose of the Forum Jedi is to assist in maximizing the enjoyment of the message board community as a whole. They are responsible for keeping discussion within the boundaries of the terms of service and FAQ. They do this primarily by leading by example, but also locking threads when needed, communicating issues with the Jedi Masters and occasionally removing posts.

It comes from this thread: +http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jsp?f ... hread=3226


Also, this also came up recently,

+http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jsp?f ... ead=175666


which in turn leads to this:

+http://swrpgnetwork.com/entry.php?s=&id=1846


And here's the anti-holocaust theory:

+http://www.swrpgnetwork.com/files/endor/

I edited your links to make them a little easier on people.

-MoO

[Master of Ossus]

And here's the anti-holocaust theory:

+http://www.swrpgnetwork.com/files/endor/

I edited your links to make them a little easier on people.

-MoO

I briefly looked through that anti-holocaust theory. It is tremendously flawed in a number of analytical aspects. I wonder if Curtis is aware of this.

[Gil Hamilton]

I briefly looked through that anti-holocaust theory. It is tremendously flawed in a number of analytical aspects. I wonder if Curtis is aware of this.

I don't know, his geometry doesn't seem that bad to me.

[JME2]

And here's the anti-holocaust theory:

+http://www.swrpgnetwork.com/files/endor/

I edited your links to make them a little easier on people.

-MoO

I briefly looked through that anti-holocaust theory. It is tremendously flawed in a number of analytical aspects. I wonder if Curtis is aware of this.

Argh, will these people stop it? I'm sick to death of Anti-Jews and all these other single-minded racist bastards with their bullshit and crap and confederate flags and ...

Forgive me, I got emotional for a moment.

[JME2]

Well that or Howard Dean took over my body for a moment.

[CaptainChewbacca]

And here's the anti-holocaust theory:

+http://www.swrpgnetwork.com/files/endor/

I edited your links to make them a little easier on people.

-MoO

I briefly looked through that anti-holocaust theory. It is tremendously flawed in a number of analytical aspects. I wonder if Curtis is aware of this.

Argh, will these people stop it? I'm sick to death of Anti-Jews and all these other single-minded racist bastards with their bullshit and crap and confederate flags and ...

Forgive me, I got emotional for a moment.

You know its an anti-ENDOR-holocaust, right?

[Lord Poe]

Isn't that article a cut n paste job of Dipshit's website?

[Galvatron]

I briefly looked through that anti-holocaust theory. It is tremendously flawed in a number of analytical aspects. I wonder if Curtis is aware of this.

Personally, I think he makes some good points. Some of which I actually brought up to Curtis years ago.

[Lord Poe]

Personally, I think he makes some good points. Some of which I actually brought up to Curtis years ago.

Personally, I think the guy is full of shit, and purposely ignores the
Bantha Tracks article and the
STAR WARS Incredible Cross-Sectionswhich place the DS1, not the DS2, at 160km. Note he carries the party line that only the official books and Databank can be trusted.

That and he's obviously in cahoots with Dipshit.

[Galvatron]

I was referring more to his comments leading up to and ending with, "...the Rebels must have screened the larger pieces of debris because otherwise the movie would have ended with a firestorm – not a party at Bright Tree Village."

[nightmare]

First of all, thanks MoO. I only thought of that afterwards.

Isn't that article a cut n paste job of Dipshit's website?

I really wouldn't know, I don't look at that long-winded pile of garbage more than I have to. But I'll take a look this time.

I was referring more to his comments leading up to and ending with, "...the Rebels must have screened the larger pieces of debris because otherwise the movie would have ended with a firestorm – not a party at Bright Tree Village."

I seem to recall that the official explanation is just that, plus the rest burned up in the atmosphere. Was it in an insider..?

Alas, I would bring up in that discussion thread that his so-called analysis ignores both the word of the designer and conservation of energy. But I'm perm-banned, and signing up again would only give them water on their sock hunt. I'ts time they rename the FAQ FUQ-U.
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[Kazuaki Shimazaki]

I briefly looked through that anti-holocaust theory. It is tremendously flawed in a number of analytical aspects. I wonder if Curtis is aware of this.

Personally, I think he makes some good points. Some of which I actually brought up to Curtis years ago.

And what did he say?

At least Gary (that opponent) DID get the first slide right. It is hard to say whether it is 8.2:1 like he claims, but it definitely is not 11.5:1, or even anything over ten. The DSII on that picture is maybe 16 pixels, and there is no way in hell the DSII in that file is 160 pixels or over in diameter.

Of course, if the 5200km radius Endor is a mere 8.2 times bigger than the DSII, the DSII gets bigger, about 1268km in diameter. That is an upper limit. Of course, since he's trying to SHRINK the DSII, he won't be mentioning that.

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/cards/wide/rotj090.jpg

[Galvatron]

Personally, I think he makes some good points. Some of which I actually brought up to Curtis years ago.

And what did he say?

Curtis? Among other things, he rationalized the fireworks away as exploding debris and the night sky as impact dust clouding the atmosphere. I'm not kidding.

[Kazuaki Shimazaki]

Curtis? Among other things, he rationalized the fireworks away as exploding debris and the night sky as impact dust clouding the atmosphere. I'm not kidding.

No, I believe you. That's his official position on his website as well. I was hoping for something new.

I see you are anti-Holocaust yourself