Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

PSW: discuss Star Wars without "versus" arguments.

Moderator: Vympel

User avatar
charlemagne
Jedi Knight
Posts: 924
Joined: 2008-10-13 02:28am
Location: Regensburg, Germany

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by charlemagne »

I really liked the latest episode, it was dark and the suspense worked. The lightsaber fights were awesome, they looked dangerous and a couple of times it really looked like Ventris is about to score a kill.
Image
User avatar
VT-16
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4662
Joined: 2004-05-13 10:01am
Location: Norway

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by VT-16 »

None of the fights so far have been compelling because we know Anakin, Obi-Wan, Grievous and Dooku have to stay alive for the next film, so there's zero suspense for me. That's why I liked this duel, with two out of three characters up in the air (hey, if Lucas decided he wanted to kill off Ventress, the comics people wouldn't be able to say jack shit about it), it's a lot more suspenseful. Not to mention the clone-centric episodes.

I also liked the huge amount of bodies piling up throughout the corridors as the episode progressed. Nice little show of how much the boarding cost the crew.
User avatar
Vympel
Spetsnaz
Spetsnaz
Posts: 29312
Joined: 2002-07-19 01:08am
Location: Sydney Australia

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by Vympel »

Unfortunately, I knew Ventress wasn't going to score a kill because we see Luminara Unduli on Kashyyyk in RotS. Ergo, she cannot die. And obviously Padawan Bratz isn't going to die.

Nor could Commander Gree, since Yoda cut his head off on Kashyyyk :)
Like Legend of Galactic Heroes? Please contribute to http://gineipaedia.com/
User avatar
Thanas
Magister
Magister
Posts: 30779
Joined: 2004-06-26 07:49pm

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by Thanas »

Ventress should have killed Asoka, considering that she was able to scar Anakin and got very, very close to killing him. In other news: Clones can't hit droids when they are 20 feet away.

Also, they ripped of the boarding ships from Andromeda.

Other than that, this was an excellent episode.
Whoever says "education does not matter" can try ignorance
------------
A decision must be made in the life of every nation at the very moment when the grasp of the enemy is at its throat. Then, it seems that the only way to survive is to use the means of the enemy, to rest survival upon what is expedient, to look the other way. Well, the answer to that is 'survival as what'? A country isn't a rock. It's not an extension of one's self. It's what it stands for. It's what it stands for when standing for something is the most difficult! - Chief Judge Haywood
------------
My LPs
User avatar
NecronLord
Harbinger of Doom
Harbinger of Doom
Posts: 27384
Joined: 2002-07-07 06:30am
Location: The Lost City

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by NecronLord »

The thing that interested me about this one is that it definately suggests that the writers just make whichever side is losing fail to hit almost any of the enemy at all. It's not necesserily just the B1s that have this severe incompetance. It's the predestined losers.
Superior Moderator - BotB - HAB [Drill Instructor]-Writer- Stardestroyer.net's resident Star-God.
"We believe in the systematic understanding of the physical world through observation and experimentation, argument and debate and most of all freedom of will." ~ Stargate: The Ark of Truth
User avatar
Darksider
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 5271
Joined: 2002-12-13 02:56pm
Location: America's decaying industrial armpit.

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by Darksider »

NecronLord wrote:The thing that interested me about this one is that it definately suggests that the writers just make whichever side is losing fail to hit almost any of the enemy at all. It's not necesserily just the B1s that have this severe incompetance. It's the predestined losers.
I find this particularly grating, but since there were SBD "corpses" lying around, we know that the clones got their shots in. It wasn't a completly one sided massacre.

Since I saw at least one SBD take a blaster shot and shrug it off, I think these were up-armored variants of SBDs, and they advanced to the prison bay too quickly for the clones to get to an armory and break out heavy weapons.

Sorta like that episode of Neo-BSG where the uber-centurions boarded the galactica.
And this is why you don't watch anything produced by Ronald D. Moore after he had his brain surgically removed and replaced with a bag of elephant semen.-Gramzamber, on why Caprica sucks
User avatar
Seydlitz_k
Youngling
Posts: 62
Joined: 2006-05-06 05:36pm

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by Seydlitz_k »

Last episode was probably the best or second best so far. Finally the bad guys accomplished something!

But wasn't anyone else bothered about how empty the Acclamator was? You'd expect there to be some technicians in the engine room, or some clone troopers guarding it. Come to think of it, pretty much every starship/city has been completley empty. Even the Malevolence. It's bridge was smaller that that of an Acclamator!

That was some pretty lame boarding defense by the clone troopers. Aren't there supposed to be thousands of them on an acclamator? or was this ship flying only with a skeleton crew?

With Lucas backing up the project, you'd expect they could shell out 80,000 dollars for a copy of Massive to add some life to the series. That's probably my biggest gripe with it...it's just so empty!
User avatar
VT-16
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4662
Joined: 2004-05-13 10:01am
Location: Norway

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by VT-16 »

I assume you mean a Venator, as that was what they were on. There wasn't any flight crew or big clone groups like we see in other episodes so I can only imagine the flight was with minimal crew.
User avatar
SylasGaunt
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 5267
Joined: 2002-09-04 09:39pm
Location: GGG

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by SylasGaunt »

Thanas wrote: Also, they ripped of the boarding ships from Andromeda.
THat was actually the same ship being used to hunt escape pods in the Malevolence arc.
User avatar
Thanas
Magister
Magister
Posts: 30779
Joined: 2004-06-26 07:49pm

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by Thanas »

SylasGaunt wrote:
Thanas wrote: Also, they ripped of the boarding ships from Andromeda.
THat was actually the same ship being used to hunt escape pods in the Malevolence arc.
Well, they ripped of the style of the attack, that's for sure. Magog swarmships impacting on the Andromeda looked pretty much the same.
Whoever says "education does not matter" can try ignorance
------------
A decision must be made in the life of every nation at the very moment when the grasp of the enemy is at its throat. Then, it seems that the only way to survive is to use the means of the enemy, to rest survival upon what is expedient, to look the other way. Well, the answer to that is 'survival as what'? A country isn't a rock. It's not an extension of one's self. It's what it stands for. It's what it stands for when standing for something is the most difficult! - Chief Judge Haywood
------------
My LPs
User avatar
Braedley
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 1716
Joined: 2005-03-22 03:28pm
Location: Ida Galaxy
Contact:

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by Braedley »

Thanas wrote:
SylasGaunt wrote:
Thanas wrote: Also, they ripped of the boarding ships from Andromeda.
THat was actually the same ship being used to hunt escape pods in the Malevolence arc.
Well, they ripped of the style of the attack, that's for sure. Magog swarmships impacting on the Andromeda looked pretty much the same.
Except that swarm ships weren't one hit punctures. Besides, other than cutting through the hull, what other methods are there for forced entry onto a space ship (no, forcing an airlock doesn't count here).
Image
My brother and sister-in-law: "Do you know where milk comes from?"
My niece: "Yeah, from the fridge!"
User avatar
VT-16
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4662
Joined: 2004-05-13 10:01am
Location: Norway

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by VT-16 »

Apparantly, George Takei will voice a Neimodian officer in an upcoming story. When's the Shat gonna be on, I wonder. :mrgreen:
User avatar
Elfdart
The Anti-Shep
Posts: 10687
Joined: 2004-04-28 11:32pm

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by Elfdart »

VT-16 wrote:Apparantly, George Takei will voice a Neimodian officer in an upcoming story. When's the Shat gonna be on, I wonder. :mrgreen:
Are you shitting me?
Image
User avatar
VT-16
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4662
Joined: 2004-05-13 10:01am
Location: Norway

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by VT-16 »

Nope, Takei's gonna be a guest star. A Neimoidian general who wants to test some funky kind of neutron bomb on a planet of Lemurs, Maridun. An established planet from the EU, but with some differences from previous stories, I reckon.
User avatar
Elfdart
The Anti-Shep
Posts: 10687
Joined: 2004-04-28 11:32pm

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by Elfdart »

Oh myyyyyyyy! :lol:
Image
User avatar
VT-16
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4662
Joined: 2004-05-13 10:01am
Location: Norway

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by VT-16 »

Hey now! :P

Oh man, I'm hoping for some ST injokes with this guy. He's serving a Federation, for one thing...
User avatar
Darksider
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 5271
Joined: 2002-12-13 02:56pm
Location: America's decaying industrial armpit.

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by Darksider »

aaand score one more jedi for Grevious. nice to see him send someone else running for once

Next Ep preview: How the hell did dooku get captured by pirates?
And this is why you don't watch anything produced by Ronald D. Moore after he had his brain surgically removed and replaced with a bag of elephant semen.-Gramzamber, on why Caprica sucks
User avatar
Elfdart
The Anti-Shep
Posts: 10687
Joined: 2004-04-28 11:32pm

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by Elfdart »

VT-16 wrote:Hey now! :P

Oh man, I'm hoping for some ST injokes with this guy. He's serving a Federation, for one thing...
I always wondered if Neimoidean was a play on Nimoy.
Image
User avatar
SylasGaunt
Sith Acolyte
Posts: 5267
Joined: 2002-09-04 09:39pm
Location: GGG

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by SylasGaunt »

Sneaky move there by Grievous to bag that padawan.
User avatar
applejack
Padawan Learner
Posts: 268
Joined: 2005-05-28 02:56am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by applejack »

Contrary to the history of Grievous' past given by Eyes of Revolution (Is it even canon?), this episode suggests that Grievous actually took on cybernetic augmentation voluntarily over a period of time as illustrated by the statuary in the lair. Rather than being resentful, he actually sees his cyborg state as a positive opportunity to be a stronger warrior.
Dear Lord, the gods have been good to me. As an offering, I present these milk and cookies. If you wish me to eat them instead, please give me no sign whatsoever *pauses* Thy will be done *munch munch munch*. - Homer Simpson
User avatar
VT-16
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4662
Joined: 2004-05-13 10:01am
Location: Norway

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by VT-16 »

I see it more as denying reality. His post-mechanization leads to a state of denial, where he obsesses over his prosthetics as a personal choice, rather than coercion by Sith Lords. Notice how angry he gets over the medical droid's use of "submitting to the procedure", or how he complains to Dooku about only getting battle droids for troops.
User avatar
VT-16
Sith Marauder
Posts: 4662
Joined: 2004-05-13 10:01am
Location: Norway

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by VT-16 »

Dave Filoni tells of how he kept the differing backgrounds for Grievous in the end by not revealing too much of either. I think that was the best approach, given I like the original version of events. If anything, it's not hard to merge them, given Grievous' early life had some mystical elements to it, and he could have admired/envied the warrior-monks of the Republic.
User avatar
NecronLord
Harbinger of Doom
Harbinger of Doom
Posts: 27384
Joined: 2002-07-07 06:30am
Location: The Lost City

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by NecronLord »

The statuary could easily be explained using the EU origin (which I personally like, a lot) quite simply; he wants guests in his lair to have the idea that he augmented himself by choice.

Also, Seperatist (Southern) Hospitality. Heh.
Superior Moderator - BotB - HAB [Drill Instructor]-Writer- Stardestroyer.net's resident Star-God.
"We believe in the systematic understanding of the physical world through observation and experimentation, argument and debate and most of all freedom of will." ~ Stargate: The Ark of Truth
User avatar
The Romulan Republic
Emperor's Hand
Posts: 21559
Joined: 2008-10-15 01:37am

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by The Romulan Republic »

Fuck, I missed the Ventris episode. Guess I'll have to try Youtube now.:(

Anyway, has anyone seen teasers for the next episode yet? I've heard nothing. I know some shows take a break at Christmas, is that the case here?
"I know its easy to be defeatist here because nothing has seemingly reigned Trump in so far. But I will say this: every asshole succeeds until finally, they don't. Again, 18 months before he resigned, Nixon had a sky-high approval rating of 67%. Harvey Weinstein was winning Oscars until one day, he definitely wasn't."-John Oliver

"The greatest enemy of a good plan is the dream of a perfect plan."-General Von Clauswitz, describing my opinion of Bernie or Busters and third partiers in a nutshell.

I SUPPORT A NATIONAL GENERAL STRIKE TO REMOVE TRUMP FROM OFFICE.
User avatar
Lord Relvenous
Jedi Council Member
Posts: 1501
Joined: 2007-02-11 10:55pm
Location: Idaho

Re: Clone Wars series (SPOILERS)

Post by Lord Relvenous »

Preview for next episode: http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000734.html

Airs January 2, AFAIK.
Coyote: Warm it in the microwave first to avoid that 'necrophelia' effect.
Post Reply