Guri_ps12:
Welcome from another newbie! Everything here is just fan fiction.
Why to produce different versions of an astromech unit at all? Some of them capable to fly, others are not. It just cause maintenance problems.
Your examples do not support what you are suggesting.
In TESB the reconstruction of C3PO started in a prison cell from wreckage. Were the cell full of spare parts? I don't think so. It continued on the Falcon. Did Solo love C3PO so much to store spare parts on board? I don't think it either.
In RoTJ there was a small commando only. I don't think they carried spare parts instead of more weapons. But, because it was after the battle, they could receive spare parts from the fleet. So it neither supports nor contradicts your thought.
In ANH when C3PO losts its arm the novelization says that if it would really broken it could only be repaired in a factory. It does not mention replacing. It was canon and as I know has not been overriden yet.
The Episode II boycott--- it's hillarious!
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On this point specifically, it would probably be easier in the long run to produce all astromech droids with the same features. Though my mode of thinking when I brought that up is that there are all types of parts for different budget levels and different levels of sophistication in the equipment. Similar to the situation of buying parts for your car, some parts are designed with the bare minimum of operations in mind, as opposed to being designed with more then the minimum in mind.Why to produce different versions of an astromech unit at all? Some of them capable to fly, others are not. It just cause maintenance problems.
I'll concede they were bad examples for the issue at hand, though just want to point out a few things that may be plausible.Your examples do not support what you are suggesting.
In TESB the reconstruction of C3PO started in a prison cell from wreckage. Were the cell full of spare parts? I don't think so. It continued on the Falcon. Did Solo love C3PO so much to store spare parts on board? I don't think it either.
In RoTJ there was a small commando only. I don't think they carried spare parts instead of more weapons. But, because it was after the battle, they could receive spare parts from the fleet. So it neither supports nor contradicts your thought.
1. ESB - Chewie started fixing C3PO in the cell, that's true, but he only got as far as putting his head on and tinkering with some of the dials and switches on his back and neck. Considering that 3PO was just blown apart, not disintegrated, it was a matter of fixing the wires and parts that attached the extremities to the torso. Parts for the wiring system at least would have been available to R2 from the maintenance stores on the Falcon.
2. ROTJ - It was a flawed example in this case, I retract that comment.
Just want to say though, I am somewhat a newbie at online debateing so i'm learning as I go. Probebly have to watch the films again to refresh my memory on canon.
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He also fixed the right arm. Do not forget that he was tortured by that annoying noise and he hadn't more time.Guri_ps12 wrote:1. ESB - Chewie started fixing C3PO in the cell, that's true, but he only got as far as putting his head on and tinkering with some of the dials and switches on his back and neck.
Let's use a modular HI-FI as an example instead of a car. Would you accept a repair that replace moduls with cheaper ones? In an emergency yes otherwise no. And I think after the emergency you would change those parts back to original level as soon as possible. That is why I answered your thought as possible but unlikely.
Read the novelization! It is more detailed and can be used as canon as long as it does not contradict with the newest versions of the films.Probably have to watch the films again to refresh my memory on canon.
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Mike Wong's explanation seems good enough for me. There really was no incident in the OT where R2 needed his rockets. In fact, I disagree that he needed them in TESB when he got back into the X-Wing. Since the Naboo fighter had the ability to pull an R2 unit into it's hull, I'm guessing an X-Wing (and Y-Wing) probably does too.
In relation to the apparent memory wipe of Threepio and Artoo, I don't see why. There was only one instance with each droid where a possible memory loss could have come into play. Threepio doesn't recognize the name Obi-Wan Kenobi and Artoo doesn't recognize Yoda (and he hasn't exactly interacted with Yoda in the prequels so far, you know). Oh yeah, Threepio doesn't remember that...and that...and...well, Threepio's memory could have been wiped, but I see no reason for Artoo's to be wiped.
In relation to the apparent memory wipe of Threepio and Artoo, I don't see why. There was only one instance with each droid where a possible memory loss could have come into play. Threepio doesn't recognize the name Obi-Wan Kenobi and Artoo doesn't recognize Yoda (and he hasn't exactly interacted with Yoda in the prequels so far, you know). Oh yeah, Threepio doesn't remember that...and that...and...well, Threepio's memory could have been wiped, but I see no reason for Artoo's to be wiped.
The gift of Superman is the same in his universe as ours. It's not about his powers, his costume, his persona, it's about the using the gifts he has to help people. We all have gifts too, maybe we can't leap tall buildings in a single bound, but maybe we're good with math, maybe we're charming. We can use our gifts -whatever they are- to help people. We just need to make that choice. And Superman shows us that it's possible.
As long as it is a masochist droid which loves to crash to the ground. I did not mention the latter. You should read the replies more carefully. But this whole R2D2 flying thing is not so important. I mentioned this as an example of that that web site is logical in some points. Of course the boycott itself is stupid.ReinnResauq wrote:Mike Wong's explanation seems good enough for me. There really was no incident in the OT where R2 needed his rockets. In fact, I disagree that he needed them in TESB when he got back into the X-Wing.