They seemed to be funded by the NR and Luke seemed to follow orders from the NR. Now of course Luke following orders might be because he was a soldier for them previously (I don't recall if he resigned his commission prior).
Accepted the New Republic’s assistance, sure. Worked when them when they decided it was for the best, yeah. That doesn’t mean the Jedi were a branch of the government.
Joun_Lord wrote:
As for the Daala bit, this was under the GA rather then the NR which presumably had a different relationship. The thing with Daala was after the Jedi formed the neutral Jedi Coalition where they went against the Alliance government because of Darth Dumbass somehow getting in charge. They were pretty darn independent by this time. Plus Daala is a notably unreliable source on the Jedi considering her problems with them, she would have reason to lie or misrepresent them. She wanted to take control of the Jedi or destroy them, unsure of which, it seems to change depending on who was writing.
This was something Luke realized and was narrated from his perspective. He went along with him being banished from Coruscant and the Jedi Order because he decided that Daala was right, at least on the major points.
They still do it though, they still have to have government backing to perform a government investigation.
Jedi mostly seemed to act and investigate as they saw fit, with the relevant authorities supporting them on a case by case basis.
Luke got lucky. He made a decision based on emotion and his gut and managed to be right about it. He wasn't right at the time though, he is only right in hindsight. There was no way for him at the time to actually know whether Kyp would go all psycho darksider again. He made a gamble, a very stupid gamble.
You do remember that Luke is literally psychic, right? His gut decisions are a whole lot more reliable than most people’s. Nor was it a purely emotional one; it’s not like he didn’t consider all the factors we’ve mentioned here.
He also has the significant advantage of knowing from first-hand experience how being Force sensitive in general and interacting with the Dark Side in particular affects someone’s mind. Which these ‘objective psychologists’ wouldn’t.
His abilities were what got him in the mess. He should not be using them at all. He had shown he could not handle them safely and responsibly. He is like some moron who misuses a firearm (though far, far worse), they're firearm privileges are usually taken away for life. Kyp's Jedi privileges should be taken away for life.
And former violent felons can crank out a AR-15 in their basement with only a few tools and a credit card. Doesn't mean its not right to ban them from owning firearms. If he remains enough of a danger to continue to mind rape people with his brain meats then he would probably need executed.
I reiterate, you cannot take Kyp’s powers away from him. They are a part of him. Once they opened the door and taught him how to actively use the Force there wasn’t any putting that genie back in the bottle. Given that, being a Jedi provided him with a framework to use his abilities responsibly and constructively. I’m not seeing any scenario where Kyp being in an environment where he’s expected and encouraged to act like a Jedi (and surrounded by peers who can be expected to effectively intervene if he gets nutty again) isn’t more likely to result in a good outcome than…what? Trying to imprison him? Telling him not to use the Force and hope his non-Jedi probation officer can tell if he does?
His reasons for wanting to be a Jedi changed but it was still what he wanted to do. And again, it was what gave him the power to do such terrible things
I’m pretty sure that it was the undead Sith Lord that gave him the power to do that and that wanting to be a Jedi was part of what pulled him back in the end. I forget the specifics of how and where he was being held when they were debating what to do with him, but IIRC he probably either didn’t have to surrender or could have escaped in the meantime.
and it was those powers he showed he could not handle responsibly.
His career as a Jedi for decades afterward proves otherwise
Guardsman Bass wrote:
RE: discussion on Kyp's power level
I don't think he was stronger than Luke in the Force. When he knocked Luke into a coma, he did it with assistance from Exar Kun's ghost.
He was, but they flat out said when they first tested him for Force potential that his was stronger than Luke’s. That was the verdict both from Palpatine’s hand me down Force potential detection machine and Luke himself when he probed Kyp with the Force. So I don’t think that’s in question, unless there was something in a later novel that contradicted it.
