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Another review pointed the Biggs scene was distinctly missing and presumes for another release they will have them.Lord Poe wrote:Is there any word about the "lost scenes" making it on any of the disks? Such as all the Biggs, Toshi Station, and first take of the cantina scene found on the "Behind The Magic" CD-ROMs?
WHA?!Vympel wrote:Oh FFS, apparently there's a scene in ANH where Luke's lightsabre (during training) is fucking GREEN. How the fuck do you screw something like that up? HOW?!
Yeah, I'm hoping so.Vympel wrote:I saw a screenshot on MF.com; really, I'm getting sick of all this rumor-mongering and "is it a bad Chinese rip" etc- there's also talk of a lot of jarring audio quality disparities in ANH, yet these aren't mentioned in any reviews I've seen ... really, maybe its all just bullshit, but its annoying that such a simple topic could be so fucking Byzantine.
What, like Tinkerbell in the movie Hook?VT-16 wrote:Actually, they are both right in the end. He did die, but Luke believed in him enough to bring him back.Impossible. If it were true, Anakin would never have reasserted himself at the crucial 11th Hour moment. Obi-wan WAS wrong, Luke was right. Why is GL screwing with that?
Actually, the "bad Chinese rip" thing was over The Digital Bits using Chinese bootleg LD->DVD versions of the SE for the "before" images in their comparisons page. Some people at MF are really rock stupid, generally, and occasionally seem to try and make an issue out of nothing whatsoever.Vympel wrote:I saw a screenshot on MF.com; really, I'm getting sick of all this rumor-mongering and "is it a bad Chinese rip" etc- there's also talk of a lot of jarring audio quality disparities in ANH, yet these aren't mentioned in any reviews I've seen ... really, maybe its all just bullshit, but its annoying that such a simple topic could be so fucking Byzantine.
I've read a couple of reviews of the box set (a.o. a Swedish one) that mentioned the audio trouble during dialogue in ANH. Apparently, this has to do with which sound that is used. The on-set sound is said to be more muffled while the sounds recorded during ADR is clearer. This was written to be most evident during the scene between Leia and Tarkin prior to the destruction of Alderaan (the difference is said to be most notable when Tarkin speaks in that scene, between the lines In a way you've determined [...] and the line Would you prefer an other target [...]). The sound recordingtechnology wasn't that good back then. I don't think it will be much of a deal though. It's one week left until the box is released here in Sweden.Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Actually, the "bad Chinese rip" thing was over The Digital Bits using Chinese bootleg LD->DVD versions of the SE for the "before" images in their comparisons page. Some people at MF are really rock stupid, generally, and occasionally seem to try and make an issue out of nothing whatsoever.Vympel wrote:I saw a screenshot on MF.com; really, I'm getting sick of all this rumor-mongering and "is it a bad Chinese rip" etc- there's also talk of a lot of jarring audio quality disparities in ANH, yet these aren't mentioned in any reviews I've seen ... really, maybe its all just bullshit, but its annoying that such a simple topic could be so fucking Byzantine.
I'm also intrigued about the fact that I've read three reviews now, and NONE of them mention the colour changing or audio issues that MF mentions...
I'm no expert on dialects, but Boba doesn't seem to have his dad's accent in AOTC. Since his dad died when he was very young (what, 10 years old?), why would he suddenly develop the same accent and have it almost 25 years later? I think that's a stupid addition. His old voice sounded cooler anyway, and one could always allow for vocal distortions from a modified helmet.Vympel wrote:He was raised by his dad up to a point. I've heard the soundclip, it's fully Kiwi.
This list fails to mention some of the audio changes that has been made that I've been reading about in various reviews such as the new Krayt-dragon sound that Obi-Wan makes in ANH, the new line spoken by C-3P0 in the Sandcrawler ("We've stopped") before he wakes R2 up and the new line spoken by one of the Storm Troopers aboard the Falcon before they exit the ship from the ramp: "There's noone here". I've read about other audio changes, but these are the ones I clearly remember reading about.Vympel wrote:A better list:
A New Hope:
- 24'51" : twin sun effect has been renewed.
- 48'50" : Han Solo avoids Greedo's shot before shooting at him.
- 50'30" : Jabba effect renewed completely, in accordance with Episode 1.
- 71'30" and after : Death Star jail corridor is much deeper.
- 77' : the garbage monster has been improved.
- 82'10" : "Power" and "Tractor Beam" stencils have been replaced with Star Wars "foreign" signs.
Empire Strikes Back:
- 50'56" to 52'05" : Emperor's hologram has been reshot with Ian Mc Dairmid. A new dialog has been recorded and Palpatine informs Vader about Luke's real identity!
- 63'42", 87'18" & 98'39" : Boba Fett's dialog has been re-recorded by Temuera Morrison.
- 92'05" & 92"15 : Han Solo's black jacket has been erased, due to cut mistakes in the original movie.
- 101'40" : Luke's scream, which was added in the '97 Special Edition, has been removed again.
Return Of The Jedi:
- 24'44" and after : Edge transparency defects around the Rancor have been removed.
- 115'41" : Old Anakin's eyebrows have been erased and eyes are now blue, to fit with Hayden Christensen.
- 120'44" : Naboo has been added to Tatooine, Bespin, Coruscant and Endor victory celebration scenes.
- 120'58" & 121'03" : Senate & Jedi temple are now included in Coruscant panoramic view.
- 122'30" : As everyone knows already, Hayden appears as a ghost beside Yoda and old Obi-Wan at the end of the movie.
If that's so, we'd hear Boba echoing that dialect in AOTC. It might be bad acting on his part, or a poor ear for accents on mine, but I don't get that from AOTC. Supposedly he was "aging normally" so he'd have lived with his dad about 10 years as a kid. Was he raised by Jango? The Kamonoeans? A private school somewhere? We're not exactly told in the film, but a dialect is learned. If he doesn't have it in AOTC, I think it's a stretch to say he would suddenly "develop" it later in life, unless he was around other people who spoke it or listened to tapes of his father's voice every night in a conscious effort to imitate him for the rest of his life...VT-16 wrote:I never thought about the 'clone'-angle when it came to his voice, just that he lived long enough with his old man to pick up his dialect.
And if you all clap very hard, perhaps Luke's life will be saved!Bob the Gunslinger wrote:What, like Tinkerbell in the movie Hook?VT-16 wrote:Actually, they are both right in the end. He did die, but Luke believed in him enough to bring him back.Impossible. If it were true, Anakin would never have reasserted himself at the crucial 11th Hour moment. Obi-wan WAS wrong, Luke was right. Why is GL screwing with that?
Yeah, I also heard that Vader's voice has been changed in ANH slightly, I heard an .mp3 of the before and after- slight difference.Mange the Swede wrote:
This list fails to mention some of the audio changes that has been made that I've been reading about in various reviews such as the new Krayt-dragon sound that Obi-Wan makes in ANH, the new line spoken by C-3P0 in the Sandcrawler ("We've stopped") before he wakes R2 up and the new line spoken by one of the Storm Troopers aboard the Falcon before they exit the ship from the ramp: "There's noone here". I've read about other audio changes, but these are the ones I clearly remember reading about.
Just now I almost burst into tears laughing due to the asteroid sock puppet and Zordon in the bacta tank.Anarchist Bunny wrote:[url=http://www.somethingawful.co*/articles.php?a=2374]The more definitive list of OT changes, some for the better, most for the worse.[/url]
