Things you'd like to see in ep. III

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-11-28 09:01am

Tarkin commanding a fleet would be extremely awesome.

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2002-11-28 09:30am

I want a good explanation of why the Force is considered an "old religion and superstition" by ANH time. (Palpatine being very thorough in dismenbering the Jedi Order is not good enough.)
Also, why the Clone Wars were so vicious, people were still remembering it well in ANH.

Oh, yes... TARKIN! (With Thrawn lying around...)

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-11-28 09:38am

Warspite, I think it is because the Jedi were loosing their power and easily distroyed, making those not around when they were at full strength skeptical on their so called power.

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2002-11-28 09:48am

anarchistbunny wrote:Warspite, I think it is because the Jedi were loosing their power and easily distroyed, making those not around when they were at full strength skeptical on their so called power.

Yeah, I can see your point, but I'm recalling this subject mainly because of Needa, when he said that phrase in front of Vader. He probably was old enough to have been around when the Jedi were still a power to be considered, and by the way he talks is almost like we would consider sorcery nowadays. It must have been a tremendous campaign, to "educate" people in disregarding the Jedi.

But okay, if it doesn't come out on Ep. III, I'm still happy if Tarkin makes a show... (*Enough with this Tarkin bussiness!*)

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2002-11-28 01:55pm

I think ur refering to Admital Motti, Needa wasn't in the movie till ESB.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-11-28 02:52pm

Currald wrote:Uh, except they were foreshadowing the hell out of the Vader angle in EP2.
I don't want any ISDs until EP4. That opening shot, with the HUGE ISD shouldn't be ruined by premature exposure.

That's irrelevant. At the end of ESB we're supposed to be fucking floored by the line "No. I am your father."

I don't think showing an ISD would spoil the opening of ANH. The one shot that would be spoiled would be showing an SSD in the prequels. Death Fleet being overshadowed by the monstrosity is chilling ewwww.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-28 02:59pm

There are 10,000 Jedi.

There are uncountably more average citizens. It would be an extremely rare citizen who ever saw a Jedi. It's probably already seen as a bunch of spooks and not well understood. Crank up a big propoganda and ideological machine like COMPNOR, and its easily believable.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-28 03:02pm

DG_Cal_Wright wrote:
Currald wrote:Uh, except they were foreshadowing the hell out of the Vader angle in EP2.
I don't want any ISDs until EP4. That opening shot, with the HUGE ISD shouldn't be ruined by premature exposure.
That's irrelevant. At the end of ESB we're supposed to be fucking floored by the line "No. I am your father."

That's fucking retarded. Everyone knows who Anakin is now. The Prequel trilogy was always going to have fucked up relations with the Original Trilogy for obvious reasons.

I don't think showing an ISD would spoil the opening of ANH. The one shot that would be spoiled would be showing an SSD in the prequels. Death Fleet being overshadowed by the monstrosity is chilling ewwww.

I don't want to see an ISD or an SSD. Both would fuck with continuity.

Rather, the Empire will finally be born, and we can see the young parts of the Empire...the brand new palace...the Victory-class Star Destroyer...Palpatine's stormtroopers.

By ANH, we have the Empire matured....the ISD....Vader in his prime...Palpatine washing away the Senate....the Death Star.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-11-28 03:04pm

[quote="DG_Cal_Wright"]
That's irrelevant. At the end of ESB we're supposed to be fucking floored by the line "No. I am your father."

[quote]

I never got to experience the moment fully. I knew long before I saw the ANH that Vader was Lukes father, just recently I relized how much of a surprise and shock and really great movie moment that would be if it hadn't been ruined for me.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-28 03:07pm

anarchistbunny wrote:
DG_Cal_Wright wrote: That's irrelevant. At the end of ESB we're supposed to be fucking floored by the line "No. I am your father."

I never got to experience the moment fully. I knew long before I saw the ANH that Vader was Lukes father, just recently I relized how much of a surprise and shock and really great movie moment that would be if it hadn't been ruined for me.

The thing is that the OT is supposed to be seen before the PT. It will really suck for the little kids now that have seen the PT now. And then will see the OT in the future. It will ruin a lot of the suprise for them.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2002-11-28 03:11pm

Way to go Lucas, you just killed it for a whole new generation.

By the way, who is gonna watch TPM tonight on fox? I personnally want to see the jedi super speed thing, never noticed before, and this will be the first time seeing it not on drugs(legal sedatives from dental work)

Mike_6002 · Post by **Mike_6002** » 2002-11-28 03:14pm

What I want to see, the orignal Republic T.I.E Fighter, Victory Star Destroyer, and the Imperial Dreadnaught

How the officer corps of the OT was formed, Stormies birth

And one helluva huge space battle to end all space battles

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2002-11-28 03:21pm

I want stormtroopers explained.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-11-28 10:05pm

I'll do a top ten list!

10: The Imperial March, in all it's glory!

9: More on the Clone Wars

8: A chase scene, like the speeder chase in RotJ, or the Coruscant chase in AotC

7: Less of the romantic stuff

6: Clearing things up about Stormtroopers (I don't want them to be clones. Please, God, don't let them be clones!)

5: Orbital bombardments, and stuff like that ot use agianst Trekkies

4: Anakin Skywalker becoming Darth Vader

3: Jar-Jar's death

2: A huge-ass space battle that takes up 30 minutes of the movie

And, the number one thing I'd like to see, and Episode III just wouldn't be complete without it...

1: Natalie Portman's tits!!!!

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-11-29 05:56am

10. More C3P & Artoo Humor

9. More Jar Jar

8. Flashbacks to Anakin's early training featuring Jake Loyd

7. More muppets (real muppets)

6. More temper tantrums by a bratty Anakin

5. Less fighting

4. More romance

3. Slow, leasurely space trips with lots of talking

2. Pastural scenes featuring the Naboo "cows"

1. Extensive gratuitous sex scenes featuring lots of slow motion nudity
for Natalie Portman and maybe some of her handmaidens/bodyguards (they just happen to join in).

Okay, only the last one is real and it's the one least likely to ever happen.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-11-29 01:17pm

Tsyroc wrote:1. Extensive gratuitous sex scenes featuring lots of slow motion nudity
for Natalie Portman and maybe some of her handmaidens/bodyguards (they just happen to join in).

Okay, only the last one is real and it's the one least likely to ever happen.

If they bring back Sabe and I could be an extra as one of the bodyguards.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-11-29 05:24pm

1 That space battle beginning in Episode III at the end of the Clone Wars.

2 Palpatine risining onto Imperial Palace's balcony with the Imperil March playing him taking over.

3 Obi-Wan & Analin fight

4 Mace & Count Dooku fight

5 Jedi Masters kicking ass on the ground battle.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-11-30 12:27am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
DG_Cal_Wright wrote: That's irrelevant. At the end of ESB we're supposed to be fucking floored by the line "No. I am your father."
That's fucking retarded. Everyone knows who Anakin is now. The Prequel trilogy was always going to have fucked up relations with the Original Trilogy for obvious reasons.

No your fucking retarded. Why would the line 'No, I am your father."
be worth a shit in ESB if we know all along that Vader and Anakin are one in the same. This is one time they need to act like the OT has not been made yet. Give the PT some fucking mystery for once.

I don't think showing an ISD would spoil the opening of ANH. The one shot that would be spoiled would be showing an SSD in the prequels. Death Fleet being overshadowed by the monstrosity is chilling ewwww.
I don't want to see an ISD or an SSD. Both would fuck with continuity.

It wouldn't fuck shit on a pogo stick you fucktard. The only continuity it would fuck with is the god damned EU. And no one really gives a shit about that.

Rather, the Empire will finally be born, and we can see the young parts of the Empire...the brand new palace...the Victory-class Star Destroyer...Palpatine's stormtroopers.
Fuck the VSD, it's just a paltry ISD that needs to be laid to rest. Actually, take that back. I'd love to see a Vic in the PTs. Watch it get it's puny ass obliter-fucking-ated.

By ANH, we have the Empire matured....the ISD....Vader in his prime...Palpatine washing away the Senate....the Death Star.
Well, we already have the beginnings of the Death Star. Luckily whoever over say Rogue Planet was keen enough to have them throw the ideas of it in early. We're already promised Vader in Ep III whether it's only a walk in and heavy breathing. Fuck, they even have the voice lined up. So fucking make us think Anakin is dead, and fucking Vader somehow finished his ass off.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-12-02 12:17am

I think it would be very hard to make a scene where it appears that Vader kills Anakin. Maybe some kind of inner fight a la Superman III?

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-12-02 11:25am

Slartibartfast wrote:I think it would be very hard to make a scene where it appears that Vader kills Anakin. Maybe some kind of inner fight a la Superman III?

That could work. Luke fought a pseudo Vader on Dagobah so why not have something similar happen with Anakin?

That way Ben's like about "a certain point of view" won't be quite as lame.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-12-02 11:26am

I meant "line" about "a certain point of view".

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2002-12-03 12:20am

Not another Endor battle. The quality was good, but the disjointed "Space battle... whoop! now it's the Ewoks! ewokewokewokewok PALPATINE SPOOKY RAR *BAM* space again! lalala" style was just not appealing for me.

Do a big space battle, hopefully not falling into the trap of "OOH, look at all the pretty CGI, BUT DON'T FOCUS ON ANYTHING FOR TOO LONG!" and making it a coherent battle, maybe focusing on a couple of capital ships duking it out, with fighters flitting between them. I wouldn't mind seeing fighters shooting protorps at the capships.

THEN, AFTERWARDS, land the transports, get the troops going, and do another land battle if you must. Hopefully less cluttered than the AOTC battle.

A couple of things we *need* to see:
1) Anakin as a starfighter pilot, in some fashion or another. Hell, have him recieving an award for his great service... but show him as a pilot. Don't crap all over Kenobi's line about Anakin being a great pilot (as well as a good friend) in ANH.

2) Obi-Wan needs to be a General at some point, according to ANH.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2002-12-03 12:45am

Uranium235 wrote:A couple of things we *need* to see:
1) Anakin as a starfighter pilot, in some fashion or another. Hell, have him recieving an award for his great service... but show him as a pilot. Don't crap all over Kenobi's line about Anakin being a great pilot (as well as a good friend) in ANH.

2) Obi-Wan needs to be a General at some point, according to ANH.

3) Obi-Wan kicking the fuck out of Anakin!

Or is that just me?

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 2002-12-03 06:23am

I think Mace should be shown meeting his maker by sneezing whilst shaving with his lightsaber (sadly, many old Jedi go this way)... j/k

But it would be funny, and to see the look on theater audience's faces.

Then the movie would suddenly stop and George could come out and say "just kidding guys, I had ya'll going!" and then it would resume and he'd die in battle or something, like a hero...

Coalition · Post by **Coalition** » 2002-12-03 09:37am

Then the movie would suddenly stop and George could come out and say "just kidding guys, I had ya'll going!" and then it would resume and he'd die in battle or something, like a hero...

How about if Mace was the one who had to fight Anakin so Yoda could get away to Dagobah?