Rescuing the topic: Star Wars and engineering

[Noble713]

AS far as the bridge thing goes.. I have to ask you people where you think you're going to put it? The ISD has fuckoff huge engines and a reactor which doesnt even quite fit into the hull itself, which occupies much of the central positions. Then, there is the fuel supply, which often has to be positioned along the centerline (going by the ICSes at least I remember) or at least around the center of the ship, along with the hangars. Same with the heavy guns. I can distinctly remember that alot of this would be required because of center of mass placement and recoil issues (they're the ideal placement) - so I can't really see where you could stick a CIC deep in the ship anyhow. Hell, there could be dangers in putting crews too close to such things anyhow (at least unshielded).

Add to that my recollection that heavy weapons, once shields are penetrated, do tend to be capable (at least on their highest settings) of putting big holes in targets and you're not really going to have much choice in where you place bridges. I do remember them having a CIC and such but again they're not going to be buried all that deeply in the hull even then (its going to be up in the superstrucutre no matter what)

So again, someone please indicate to me on an ISD diagram WHERE the bridge/CIC should be placed, since your options for sticking it inside the ship are rather limited.

ISD Cutaway

The red region appears to be a section of thick hull plating, which may be in place to protect the crew from harmful reactor emissions. The CIC/bridge could be placed in the green circled region, or anywhere nearby. My understanding is that this area is mostly crew quarters and related facilities, so that stuff should be easy to move elsewhere. Granted, the crew decks aren't exactly solid neutronium but they should still present considerable extra protection compared to the bridge's current location.

As for "putting big holes in targets", do we have any good material about the penetrative abilities of heavy turbolasers and the like? In modern tank terms, are they closer to HE rounds or APFS-DS depleted uranium penetrators?

[Knife]

I don't see why you think that would matter? At the battle of Endor, when Ackbar is calling for all firepower to be directed at the Executor, you can see a massive laser bolt hit one of the escorting SD and it goes up in a ball of fire. If the shields are down, in a fight with comperable ships, being barried under a couple decks ain't gonna save you.

Ship being hit by bolt.

Ship going up like a roman candle.

[Noble713]

Ahhh, I forgot about that scene. I've been watching Revenge of the Sith pretty frequently lately, so the main thing in my mind is the fight between Guarlara (sp?) and the Invisible Hand. That's an example of combat between near-peers that resulted in little more than visibly-superficial damage.

[Knife]

Ahhh, I forgot about that scene. I've been watching Revenge of the Sith pretty frequently lately, so the main thing in my mind is the fight between Guarlara (sp?) and the Invisible Hand. That's an example of combat between near-peers that resulted in little more than visibly-superficial damage.

Well for whatever reason, in that scene in RotS, you see the light guns shooting each other. However, earlier, you see a couple good shots of heavy shots hitting vessels. Specifically, you see the shot coming out of the belly hold of a Venstar hit a Seperatist ship and fuck it up.

[Ender]

Ahhh, I forgot about that scene. I've been watching Revenge of the Sith pretty frequently lately, so the main thing in my mind is the fight between Guarlara (sp?) and the Invisible Hand. That's an example of combat between near-peers that resulted in little more than visibly-superficial damage.

Well for whatever reason, in that scene in RotS, you see the light guns shooting each other. However, earlier, you see a couple good shots of heavy shots hitting vessels. Specifically, you see the shot coming out of the belly hold of a Venstar hit a Seperatist ship and fuck it up.

Reason being the Heavy weapons in the IH had overheated earlier in battle from Grievous' excessive firing of them against specialist recommendations, and the Republic both trying to capture Grievous and thinking Palpatine may have been on board.

[JointStrikeFighter]

It's quite possible the Venstar engaging may have had its weapons overheating, coolant depleted etc by that stage as well.