Best EU ship designs

[Connor MacLeod]

Wouldn't the TIE-Defender be able to accelerate with 6,200Gs if it has 155 MGLT and one MGLT is 400m/s/s?

That's based on the game mechanics stuff as Curtis covered in SWTC I thought?

And what was the linear acceleration of the Delta-7 again? Last time i looked at Wookiepedia it was 5,000Gs, but from the AotC:ICS i seem to remember 10,000Gs.

5,000 gees. Missiles accelerate at 10,000 gees or more. The Jedi Airspeeder acclerates at 5200 gees IIRC. 10,000 gees would probably up fuel consumption considerably (and cut down on endurance) even for a starfighter using only ion engines.

[Surlethe]

Remember, 5000G is a maximum acceleration; this means its average acceleration is much, much less, and it probably only has enough fuel to sustain max. acceleration for a few hours or less.

[Connor MacLeod]

The engines or generators or whatever they are, on a ring are about the same size as the engines on the Actis or Delta. So it must be more about fuel capacity for a ring than for other small craft with internal HD's.

The hyperdrive ring also happens to have an effective range of something on the order of 150,000 light years, and is a "class one" hyperdrive (about as fast as an X-wing or an A-wing.) For comparison, the ARC-170 starfighter has a class 1.5 Hyperdrive and a 5,000 light year range IIRC.. far shorter. The TIE Defender has a class 2 hyperdrive, which is slower than either of the above, ,and given the limited (to say nonexistent beyond what the pilot has) life support supplies and likely far more limited flight time will suggest that it cannot come close to matching the range or speed of the Hyperdrive ring (much less something like the ARC-170.)

Gah, that sounds horrible and I'm glad I didn't read what ever spawned that idea.

Uh, why? Before the holonet/hyperwave, even with alternate FTL comms (IE subspace) they'd need some way of communicating with one another. Besides, as I recall Death Squadron used FTL-equipped probe droids (well the pods the droids were in were FTL equipped.)

Actually, I'd assume the volume of both the Actis and the Tie-D are roughly the same.

I remember asking Curtis about this and according to him (at least) the actis (and even the Delta-7) have far less internal volume than a standard TIE fighter, much less the Defender. So no, I'd probably say not. (aside from the third pylon and radiator panel, the TIE-D's wings are attached to a pylon extending some distancee from the rear of the ship, whereas radiator pylons attach directly to the cockpit in most TIE designs.)

and lots of blasters and ion cannons

Given that some people insist that a TIE interceptor carries upwards of 10 lasers, I don't see a problem with this. IIRC some sources gave the Defender 10 lasers. Hell there are some examples where TIE-Interceptors carried shields and hyperdrive (Wraith Squadron comes to mind.)

as well as missle launchers,

And how big are the warheads, pray tell? Spacetrooper armor can equip micro-proton torpedoes that can threaten starfighters, proton GRENADES can damage starfighters as well. Given the right explosive (IE antimatter or something based on annihilation energies) this is not a problem. Given that the EGV&V seem to imply the TIE Defender is a hyperdrive-capable space superiority platform (they mention taking on fighters and some small transports IIRC) you don't need all that big a warhead (high KT/low megaton.. a missile that could mass at most a few kg. Use a tractor/repulsor propulsion unit and it would be a very simple, short-ranged weapon.)

not to even mention still have enough power left over to out accelerate every other fighter out there; streches it a bit, don't you think?

According to the NEGV&V it's acceleration was only something lik 4200 gees.

I should note of course that I have also seen quite widlely varyind diagrams. One such dispensed with the pylons and had a very ovoid cockpit connected to a thick, triangular structure that the wings were attached to (original EGW&T.) So its also possible there are at least two (or more) varients of TIE DEfender (much as there are two variants of TIE Advanced...)

I assume you intended to reply to the rest of my comments but simply forgot...

[Trytostaydead]

I've always been partial to Hapan Novas.

[Knife]

I assume you intended to reply to the rest of my comments but simply forgot...

Reply to what? I mentioned all the categories of things the TIE-D has as an example of why I thought it was wanked. You replied with 'Yeah, but they....'

Do you wish me to refrute the ten laser thing? Or your micro torpedo thing? I didn't reply to it because, as far as I'm concerned it just added on to what I said. You obviously don't think those things equal a sense of wank or having all of those things adds to the super uber multi role awesomness of the craft that I balk at, but I do.

[Anguirus]

LoE is pretty explicit on the craft having shields *and* missiles, however.

Care to provide a quote?

Torpedoes:

The torpedo tore from between the starfighter's cockpit-linked fuselages and burned its way toward he picket

Anakin began to hug the surface, surging onto a course that would whip Red Squadron through a tight circle around the forward ends of the fuel cells.
"Torpedoes away!" he said at the halfway mark.
Obi-Wan triggered the launchers and watched two torpedoes burn toward the target.

Anakin and Obi-Wan paid out the last of their proton torpedoes in futile attempts to save Reds Three, Four, and Five.

They are flying in their Actis Interceptors, accompanied by R2 and R4, mere days before the Battle of Coruscant.

Shields:

An instant later, a second volley sizzled down from overhead. R2-D2 loosed a series of urgent whistles and tweets as the starfighter was rocked to its shields.
Blue lightning coruscated across the console, and droid fighters appeared to port and starboard. More bolts found their mark, throwing Anakin hard against the safety harness.

I guess they could be "noncombat" shields like a TIE Fighter's, except that Anakin takes several direct hits there. There is only one more reference I could find; Obi-Wan ordering "all power to the ablative shields" during a hurried atmospheric entry. These probably aren't combat shields, rather, something any craft would need during entry. However, I'm not sure how or why you would dump power into an ablative shield.

[Lord Pounder]

I've always been partial to Hapan Novas.

I've alwasy considered them fragile looking and undergunned for their size.

[FTeik]

Wouldn't the TIE-Defender be able to accelerate with 6,200Gs if it has 155 MGLT and one MGLT is 400m/s/s?

That's based on the game mechanics stuff as Curtis covered in SWTC I thought?

And what was the linear acceleration of the Delta-7 again? Last time i looked at Wookiepedia it was 5,000Gs, but from the AotC:ICS i seem to remember 10,000Gs.

5,000 gees. Missiles accelerate at 10,000 gees or more. The Jedi Airspeeder acclerates at 5200 gees IIRC. 10,000 gees would probably up fuel consumption considerably (and cut down on endurance) even for a starfighter using only ion engines.

Well, i looked into my (translated) version of the AotC:ICS and there it says "Höchstbeschleunigung (linear): 10,000G" for the Delta-7 and gives "12,000G" for the Geonosian fighter.

Could somebody please take a look at the original text of the AotC:ICS, maybe the german publisher screwed up.

[Shadowtraveler]

I have it. It says 5,000G in open space and 12,000 kph in the atmosphere for the Delta-7 and 20,000 kph and 4,500G for the Geonosian Fighter.