Stormtrooper Armor
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Stormtrooper Armor
Why is the armor of the clonetroopers and the stormtroopers white and not any other color? Is it for a logical reason or for psychological purposes only? Does the color help in resisting energy weapon attacks (white would reflect heat more easily, while black absorbs it)
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Some armor are other colors. And white is more energy reflective (what little good that will do against a blaster) then other colors. But largely it is all psych, yes.
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And conceal them reasonably well in the mostly white environments on starships. I don't see what's wrong with it, as a default color.jaeger115 wrote:Unfortunately the color would give them away in jungle combat.
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I would think that black would do a better job of intimidation... I mean, when most people think of white, you get this image of something soft, cuddly, and innocent...Ender wrote:Some armor are other colors. And white is more energy reflective (what little good that will do against a blaster) then other colors. But largely it is all psych, yes.
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Actually, if you combine white with a very evil face as on the stormtrooper's helmet, it CAN be quite intimidating...I would think that black would do a better job of intimidation... I mean, when most people think of white, you get this image of something soft, cuddly, and innocent...
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Disregarding quasi-canon (like the forest troopers and all that) what about the black armor of the TIE Pilots and Vader? And the Red Armor of the Imperial Guard? Of course it could just be for show in those cases...
We have color coding on the Clone Troopers, but not for the Stormies (except the colored paudlons on Tatooine in ANH).
We have color coding on the Clone Troopers, but not for the Stormies (except the colored paudlons on Tatooine in ANH).
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The colours?
Boba bought his armor by pieces.
I'm quite sure he earned a complete one from Jango but by the time of TESB he lost couple of parts in combat.
Some sources claim that Boba had 2 complete sets of armor and several spare parts.
These spare parts were later purchased and probably Boba didn't have the urge to paint them all to the same colour.
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According to the Ep2VD, the Kaminoans see light only in the ultraviolet spectrum, so whilst everything seems white to us, they've probably got the Clonetroopers wearing their version of dayglo pink.jaeger115 wrote:Why is the armor of the clonetroopers and the stormtroopers white and not any other color? Is it for a logical reason or for psychological purposes only? Does the color help in resisting energy weapon attacks (white would reflect heat more easily, while black absorbs it)
Additionally, Clonetroopers (and Stormies too) are trained as shocktroops who come down out of the sky and whip ass. Under these circumstances, camo painted uniforms are probably not the highest ranking items on the Imperial Budget.
And less noticeable.And if you make it black, its even more intimidating
The Empire's military strategy was to declare, loudly and proudly, their presence, wherever they went. Kind of like how the Nazis wore big, bright-red armbands with swastikas, and goose-stepped all over (you think goose-stepping is useful for any military purpose?).
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No, but it made good Monty Python fooder.SPOOFE wrote:And less noticeable.And if you make it black, its even more intimidating
The Empire's military strategy was to declare, loudly and proudly, their presence, wherever they went. Kind of like how the Nazis wore big, bright-red armbands with swastikas, and goose-stepped all over (you think goose-stepping is useful for any military purpose?).
Erm ... you won't find goosestepping and those big brigh red armbands on a battlefield in WW2.SPOOFE wrote:
The Empire's military strategy was to declare, loudly and proudly, their presence, wherever they went. Kind of like how the Nazis wore big, bright-red armbands with swastikas, and goose-stepped all over (you think goose-stepping is useful for any military purpose?).
It WAS great for victory parades. Though the Soviet march is better.
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I would like to add that it was the traditional german military parade march, if you ever see any pre-Nazi military parade (mostly pre-WWI), you'll notice the same goose-stepping march.Vympel wrote:Erm ... you won't find goosestepping and those big brigh red armbands on a battlefield in WW2.SPOOFE wrote:
The Empire's military strategy was to declare, loudly and proudly, their presence, wherever they went. Kind of like how the Nazis wore big, bright-red armbands with swastikas, and goose-stepped all over (you think goose-stepping is useful for any military purpose?).
It WAS great for victory parades. Though the Soviet march is better.
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And another thing: Why does the helmet employ eyeholes and not a fully-fledged visor? That would help them see better without the holo-display inside.
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Why do they need anything other than the holo-display. Provide evidence that the system has failed in the past, without having the wearer incapacitated in the process.jaeger115 wrote:And another thing: Why does the helmet employ eyeholes and not a fully-fledged visor? That would help them see better without the holo-display inside.
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Provide evidence that a holo-visor is more efficient than a low-tech polarized face-plate. I'd prefer that the holo-display be used to track incoming targets, help the soldier direct fire, etc, rather than aiding in the soldier's vision.Why do they need anything other than the holo-display. Provide evidence that the system has failed in the past, without having the wearer incapacitated in the process.
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The white has another function. In sunlight, the armor will blind the opposition.
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It does all that, as it is. It tracks targets (and also assists a soldier in checking to see if the barrel of his weapon is lined up with a target), identifies friendlies in a combat area, and enhances vision in low-visibility conditions (ie. smoke, which a polarized faceplate cannot do). Again, demonstrate that a polarized faceplate is in any way superior.jaeger115 wrote:Provide evidence that a holo-visor is more efficient than a low-tech polarized face-plate. I'd prefer that the holo-display be used to track incoming targets, help the soldier direct fire, etc, rather than aiding in the soldier's vision.Why do they need anything other than the holo-display. Provide evidence that the system has failed in the past, without having the wearer incapacitated in the process.
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Okay, it enables unaided vision. But I see your point with the smoke.Again, demonstrate that a polarized faceplate is in any way superior.
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However, it should be noted that certain types of smoke can block it (ESB).Master of Ossus wrote:It does all that, as it is. It tracks targets (and also assists a soldier in checking to see if the barrel of his weapon is lined up with a target), identifies friendlies in a combat area, and enhances vision in low-visibility conditions (ie. smoke, which a polarized faceplate cannot do). Again, demonstrate that a polarized faceplate is in any way superior.
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Yup, to be expected really- in modern combat the newest smoke grenades employed can block thermal imagers, wheras they can ordinarily see straight through battlefield dust etc.IG-88E wrote: However, it should be noted that certain types of smoke can block it (ESB).
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