Why bother putting a Super Laser on the Death Star?

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-01-17 05:18am

If the original Death Star was the size of a "small" moon (approx. 400-600 meters in diameter + or-) then what was the point of putting a laser on it? If you need to destroy a planet just do a head on collison with it. If you replace the laser with Uber Sheilds or cover the thing with alot of armor that would protect all the troops and other random imperial personel along with the station, and it would most likely silence all opposition on the threat of your planet being turned into random particles of random stuff. Or you could just get rid of the "big ball of doom" idea and replace it with the "frikken huge sledge hammer of lots of pain"

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-01-17 05:50am

Is it serious?

LOL...good joke!

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-01-17 05:54am

well why not

yeah sure the super laser is cool but wouldn't it be better to just beat a planet into submission?

Kazuaki Shimazaki · Post by **Kazuaki Shimazaki** » 2003-01-17 05:54am

Officially, the DSI was 120km in diameter. Canon analysis yields something around 160km. Their definition of small varies considerably from yours.

Have you considered that if I use a superlaser to blow up the planet, all I'll get pelted with are a few chunks, so I'm not very likely to get damaged. If I ram it, even if my shields are tough enough, the enormous reaction force will force all my shield generators to break from their supports and run amok in my hull, causing severe damage!

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-01-17 06:10am

Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:Officially, the DSI was 120km in diameter. Canon analysis yields something around 160km. Their definition of small varies considerably from yours.

Have you considered that if I use a superlaser to blow up the planet, all I'll get pelted with are a few chunks, so I'm not very likely to get damaged. If I ram it, even if my shields are tough enough, the enormous reaction force will force all my shield generators to break from their supports and run amok in my hull, causing severe damage!

About the size sorry

my brain isn't working right now lack of caffinated beverages, as for the problem about the shields I figured the DS1 was mostly taken up by the super laser and rigged into the main core thingie so I thought "why not get rid of the super laser get rid of the big divit on the front of the DS and have all the extra juice from the reactor go through redundant easily replaceable shield "thingies" (could think up a technical term

) built into the super structure. I know that most likely answers that question but if it doesn't ask somebody more knowledgeable on stuff like this because I honestly wasn't comming from a scientific thinking standpoint I was coming from a that would look kickass if I saw it in a movie.

Grog · Post by **Grog** » 2003-01-17 07:25am

they use it to blow up ships too they wouldn't be able to ram the ships that are faster than the DS

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-01-17 07:32am

Grog wrote:they use it to blow up ships too they wouldn't be able to ram the ships that are faster than the DS

true, true but there is no reason why extra space not taken up by the shields, armor, or whatever else couldn't be used for more TIE fighter squadrons or more TL

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-01-17 07:34am

No such particle shield exists in the SW that can protect the DS from a collision with a planet.

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-01-17 07:44am

Boba Fett wrote:No such particle shield exists in the SW that can protect the DS from a collision with a planet.

Yeah but what about armor? that Quantom Crystal what ever armor from those first 3 books that introduced Dalla in them that stuff was very strong it survived ramming through a star destroyer being sent into the center of a very large star and a glanceing hit from the prototype DS super laser, it would most likely take too much time or effort to make that stuff but something near that could be made then I would cover the "slegehammer of doom" with it if not well.......crap

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-01-17 07:54am

I suggest you: GO, PLAY BOWLING!

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-01-17 07:54am

Qunatum Cyrstalian is very hard to produce, Notice the fact that Daala's Star Destroyers where not covered in the armor in the slightiest, only the Suncrusher and it was worked on for over ten years

Notice also the basic fact that Kintetic energy must be payed for somewhere in the loop, While you can take a huge blast of energy on the shields and then spread it over a few hundred meters and REFLECT the rest into Space the amount of energy you have to deal with when it comes to kinetic attacks simply can't be dispursed as easily

Besides who in thier right mind would want to serve aboard a ship that defeats its enemys by...

Running into them? Knowing that at any time a massive KE attack or simple heavy enough turbolaser attack to bring down the shield generators and make your rushing attack into a final Dive

Also you fail to note the fact that it Death-Star was also designed as an ANTI-FLEET weapon of which would be little use aginst for your giant wreaking ball idea

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-01-17 08:06am

Mr Bean wrote:Qunatum Cyrstalian is very hard to produce, Notice the fact that Daala's Star Destroyers where not covered in the armor in the slightiest, only the Suncrusher and it was worked on for over ten years

Notice also the basic fact that Kintetic energy must be payed for somewhere in the loop, While you can take a huge blast of energy on the shields and then spread it over a few hundred meters and REFLECT the rest into Space the amount of energy you have to deal with when it comes to kinetic attacks simply can't be dispursed as easily

Besides who in thier right mind would want to serve aboard a ship that defeats its enemys by...

Running into them? Knowing that at any time a massive KE attack or simple heavy enough turbolaser attack to bring down the shield generators and make your rushing attack into a final Dive

Also you fail to note the fact that it Death-Star was also designed as an ANTI-FLEET weapon of which would be little use aginst for your giant wreaking ball idea

DAMN now I feel stupid, oh well it was just a random idea about blowing planets up without using usuall weaponry........it could still work as a terror weapon aganist enemies you would just need the manufacturing capability to produce these things like TIE fighters picture this: a Death Star sized sphere completely filled will high yeald missles, bombs the works, it has a very fast hyperdrive with a droid brain programmed to as it rams the planet blow it's payload AND the Hyperdrive effectively ending any arguments aganist you

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-01-17 08:13am

russellb6666 wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:Qunatum Cyrstalian is very hard to produce, Notice the fact that Daala's Star Destroyers where not covered in the armor in the slightiest, only the Suncrusher and it was worked on for over ten years

Notice also the basic fact that Kintetic energy must be payed for somewhere in the loop, While you can take a huge blast of energy on the shields and then spread it over a few hundred meters and REFLECT the rest into Space the amount of energy you have to deal with when it comes to kinetic attacks simply can't be dispursed as easily

Besides who in thier right mind would want to serve aboard a ship that defeats its enemys by...

Running into them? Knowing that at any time a massive KE attack or simple heavy enough turbolaser attack to bring down the shield generators and make your rushing attack into a final Dive

Also you fail to note the fact that it Death-Star was also designed as an ANTI-FLEET weapon of which would be little use aginst for your giant wreaking ball idea
DAMN now I feel stupid, oh well it was just a random idea about blowing planets up without using usuall weaponry........it could still work as a terror weapon aganist enemies you would just need the manufacturing capability to produce these things like TIE fighters picture this: a Death Star sized sphere completely filled will high yeald missles, bombs the works, it has a very fast hyperdrive with a droid brain programmed to as it rams the planet blow it's payload AND the Hyperdrive effectively ending any arguments aganist you

If I get it right that idea is even more stupid!

Who the f*ck would build a fleet of planet sized weapons just to use every craft for one mission?

It would be a total waste of money!!!

If I misunderstand you forgot this message!

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-01-17 09:05am

Boba Fett wrote:
russellb6666 wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:Qunatum Cyrstalian is very hard to produce, Notice the fact that Daala's Star Destroyers where not covered in the armor in the slightiest, only the Suncrusher and it was worked on for over ten years

Notice also the basic fact that Kintetic energy must be payed for somewhere in the loop, While you can take a huge blast of energy on the shields and then spread it over a few hundred meters and REFLECT the rest into Space the amount of energy you have to deal with when it comes to kinetic attacks simply can't be dispursed as easily

Besides who in thier right mind would want to serve aboard a ship that defeats its enemys by...

Running into them? Knowing that at any time a massive KE attack or simple heavy enough turbolaser attack to bring down the shield generators and make your rushing attack into a final Dive

Also you fail to note the fact that it Death-Star was also designed as an ANTI-FLEET weapon of which would be little use aginst for your giant wreaking ball idea
DAMN now I feel stupid, oh well it was just a random idea about blowing planets up without using usuall weaponry........it could still work as a terror weapon aganist enemies you would just need the manufacturing capability to produce these things like TIE fighters picture this: a Death Star sized sphere completely filled will high yeald missles, bombs the works, it has a very fast hyperdrive with a droid brain programmed to as it rams the planet blow it's payload AND the Hyperdrive effectively ending any arguments aganist you
If I get it right that idea is even more stupid!

Who the f*ck would build a fleet of planet sized weapons just to use every craft for one mission?

It would be a total waste of money!!!

If I misunderstand you forgot this message!

AHHHHH CRAP!!!!!!!!!!
Damnit thats the last time I try to think up somethi g smart before my manditory ADD medication and 3 or 4 2liters of Mt. Dew I am sorry if I have offended anyone with my unknowing stupidity if it is any consolation I that thought it sounded smart when fisrt posted

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2003-01-17 09:11am

hmmm given its mass wouldnt it just be better to park the DS in orbit and just let its gravity do the work?

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-01-17 09:20am

Typhonis 1 wrote:hmmm given its mass wouldnt it just be better to park the DS in orbit and just let its gravity do the work?

If your talking about a planet without means to get to you sure but otherwise better have the TLs charged and TIEs ready for launch

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-01-17 12:42pm

russel, your stupidity hurts my brain.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-01-17 01:30pm

Ram them until they give up!

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-01-17 01:33pm

kojikun wrote:russel, your stupidity hurts my brain.

i'm sorry im usually more coherent but that "idea" occured to me when i was off my medication and caffine and I thought it was a good idea at the time.

I appologise for my stupidity I have learned that no medication or caffine equals a stupid russell

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2003-01-17 01:40pm

russellb6666 wrote:If the original Death Star was the size of a "small" moon (approx. 400-600 meters in diameter + or-) then what was the point of putting a laser on it? If you need to destroy a planet just do a head on collison with it.

Great. You've just postulated turning an Imperial Superweapon into 'Bowling for Planets'.

Blaze · Post by **Blaze** » 2003-01-17 01:54pm

wudn't it be a easier and just as effective to throw a sutibly large asteroid at the planet or just blast its moon out of orbit?

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-01-17 02:19pm

Great. You've just postulated turning an Imperial Superweapon into 'Bowling for Planets'.

That reminds me of the episode fo Red Dwarf where they had to knock two planets together and make one go into a black hole

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-01-17 02:32pm

kojikun wrote:
Great. You've just postulated turning an Imperial Superweapon into 'Bowling for Planets'.
That reminds me of the episode fo Red Dwarf where they had to knock two planets together and make one go into a black hole

The episode you refer to was titled "She Rides" and Lister was a jammy jammy bastard to quote Rimmer.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-17 03:27pm

Ramming attack expose your own ship to considerable damage. For example surface escorts which rammed U-boats in WW2 generally needed to be dry-docked after words because of hull damage. Shooting the target is a far far better idea.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-01-18 08:14pm

With it's superlaser, the Death Star can destroy a planet.

Without it's superlaser, the Death Star can only brown the trousers of every being on the planet.

If you're going to turn the DS into a ramming object, you might as well put 3 holes into it, and a giant arm to move it.

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