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Your favorite "Fanon" Starwars ships.
Posted: 2007-05-02 03:26am
by Crossroads Inc.
Recently stumbled across a site called
Starwars Combine Don't know much about it, other than theres a large amount of fairly 'interesting' ships in its arhchives, most of which seem to be fan made. Which got me htinking, what are some of your favorite fan inspired starships?
For coolnes in apperance this "Pulsar" seems nifty
Posted: 2007-05-02 03:47am
by Ritterin Sophia
The Imperium-class is rather hilarious, when you think just how big those windows are.
Ginormous Ship
Edit: Just linked to the pic so it wouldn't fuck with how the thread's displayed.
Posted: 2007-05-02 09:07am
by Molyneux
Is...is that a hangar for ISDs?
...my first impulse was to ask what that guy's smoking, but...what's the size of this Imperium-class thing compared to the Death Star?
Posted: 2007-05-02 09:25am
by Ritterin Sophia
Nay my friend, not only could it hold ISD's, but an Executor as well, look at the length and tell me it wasn't designed specifically to accomodate an Executor.
Also, story on it's sisterships maiden voyage had me rolling on the floor.
E1701 on SB.com wrote:Maiden Flight, SDSD Freudian Nightmare
Imperial Weapons Development Center, Coruscant
To Whom it May Concern:
Gentlemen, let me start by saying that I am greatly honored to be chosen for command of such a magnificent vessel. That said, our insystem shakedown cruise has turned up a few minor issues that I would like to see remedied as soon as possible.
1) We understand your desire to continue the classical stylized lines of the first star destroyer class vessels, and we appreciate your asthetic sense in that regard. However, strictly speaking, was it absolutely necessary to scale up the bridge tower directly? I must confess the foreward bridge window is a great distraction. Militarily, we feel that as is, the three kilometer tall window pane may provide too tempting a target for enemy forces we may engage. We've lost four helmsmen so far to vertigo as well, and we don't think this is in the best interests of the vessel's well-being.
2) The sheer size of our vessel, while a glorious symbol of the mighty Emperor, which we all appreciate completely, has become apparent to us all. My initial briefing tour of the vessel took six days to complete, and the travel tubes were based on the design in use aboard the slightly smaller Executor-class vessels. Travel time being prohibitive, we were forced to camp out in the corridors of the major sectors when we stopped for the night. Furthermore, since our crew quarters sections are located entirely within the aft dorsal sectors, both our Engineering crew and ground forces complements have built tent cities within their own sections, and are living there. Fire hazard has become nearly intolerable and the hydroponics department has sent me six hundred messages insisting that the smoke from the camp-fires is ruining their crop, and that we have enough food left aboard for only another three weeks.
2) Our vessel's own gravity is not being handled as well as could be done, with some minor problematical consequences. Our plumbers called my attention to the fact that the sewage from our 6 million-man crew backwashed through the air vents in Sections 42 to 78, decks 258 through 532. Malaria and dysentary broke out in those sections, and we were forced to cordon it off to prevent an epidemic. Our first Chief Medical Officer unfortunately was killed when he requested the paperwork on those affected, and upon receiving e-mailed reports from all 739 of his senior doctors, the computer screen in his quarters self-destructed, propelling shrapnel throughout his quarters. All droids who enter the area have failed to return, and a remote camera probe sent in, recorded images of the survivors in the affected area where they were flinging their own feces at each other, warring with sharpened pieces of metal, and attempting to eat the dismembered limbs of the aforementioned droids.
3) On a similar note, regarding the unfortunate loss of our last CMO, we have finally decided that the staff requirements of this vessel are creating further problems. For instance, our Chief Engineer has begun the habit of signing his reports, "Chief Marshal, Sovereign Nation of Ree'Ak'tor." He has since sealed off those decks, and started a war. The war in question is against his apparent rival, the commander of our ground forces near the main flightdeck, who has taken to calling himself "Bringer of the Apocalypse." Surveillance records indicate that they have since stopped wearing their armor, and have begun smearing their bodies with industrial cleaning fluid and lubricants before launching raids upon the Engineering department. We believe that they have begun ritualistically sacrificing one of our TIE-fighter pilots before each attack to bring them luck.
Aside from a minor note that some of our turbolaser turret gunners may have starved to death when their food shipments were cut off by the warzone, there is little else to remark on, save that in our first tactical drill, during the course of a two-hour right turn, we failed to halt our rotation with the result of the subsequent and very unfortunate destruction of the entire Coruscant 4th Defensive Fleet. I've made a note to send out letters of regret the moment we reacquire contact with our communications room at the bow of the vessel. That of course is the reason why this message had to be sent to your offices via pen, paper, and one of our probe droids. I beg forgivness for the clerical difficulties that may cause.
Signed,
Grand Admiral
SDSD Freudian Nightmare
Posted: 2007-05-02 10:56am
by Anguirus
The "Pulsar" looks a LOT like Babylon 5's
Excalibur.
And the "Freudian Nightmare" story never fails to make me laugh.
Posted: 2007-05-02 11:20am
by Kuja
Me too. All hail the sovereign nation of Ree'Ak'tor!
Posted: 2007-05-02 11:40am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Anguirus wrote:The "Pulsar" looks a LOT like Babylon 5's
Excalibur.
And the "Freudian Nightmare" story never fails to make me laugh.
Doesn't it look like the Majestic class heavy cruisers in BFC?
Posted: 2007-05-02 05:00pm
by CaptJodan
Anguirus wrote:The "Pulsar" looks a LOT like Babylon 5's Excalibur.
It definately has that sense about it.
The description of the ship is pretty wanky though. A 1,300 meter ship able to take on an SSD, carrying 10 squadrons of bombers and 10 squadrons of fighters, hundreds of assault ships, yadda yadda.
Tis a nice design. But I think it would work best in a frigate role without the wank.
Posted: 2007-05-02 05:01pm
by The Dark
Molyneux wrote:Is...is that a hangar for ISDs?
...my first impulse was to ask what that guy's smoking, but...what's the size of this Imperium-class thing compared to the Death Star?
Well...first Death Star was a 160 kilometer sphere. This eunuch's compensation attempt is 260 kilometers in length. Franly, I don't see the point of designing a ship's shape to something that size - maneuverability will be shite anyway, and you might as well consider something that size to be a "mobile planet" and make it a simpler shape that's easier to construct.
Posted: 2007-05-02 05:28pm
by NecronLord
The Dark wrote:Well...first Death Star was a 160 kilometer sphere. This eunuch's compensation attempt is 260 kilometers in length. Franly, I don't see the point of designing a ship's shape to something that size - maneuverability will be shite anyway, and you might as well consider something that size to be a "mobile planet" and make it a simpler shape that's easier to construct.
You're forgetting
the second one, which could be anything up to 900 Km in diameter. The
Fruedian Nightmare is a tiddler in comparison to palpatine's second Iron Testicle.
Anguirus wrote:The "Pulsar" looks a LOT like Babylon 5's Excalibur.
Humm.. I'll have to make a note of that for if I ever get around to writing sequels to by First Ones/SW fic.
Posted: 2007-05-03 04:31am
by bz249
CaptJodan wrote:Anguirus wrote:The "Pulsar" looks a LOT like Babylon 5's Excalibur.
It definately has that sense about it.
The description of the ship is pretty wanky though. A 1,300 meter ship able to take on an SSD, carrying 10 squadrons of bombers and 10 squadrons of fighters, hundreds of assault ships, yadda yadda.
Tis a nice design. But I think it would work best in a frigate role without the wank.
Quite a strange thing, I never understand the wingy design of a supposed spaceship. There is no reason to give them wings apart from reducing firing arcs and wasting some material. Coolness and visuals are great, but the elegant lines have not saved Scharnhorst from the ugly quad turrets of the Duke of York.
Posted: 2007-05-03 08:02am
by Laughing Mechanicus
bz249 wrote:Quite a strange thing, I never understand the wingy design of a supposed spaceship. There is no reason to give them wings apart from reducing firing arcs and wasting some material. Coolness and visuals are great, but the elegant lines have not saved Scharnhorst from the ugly quad turrets of the Duke of York.
There are some possible reasons - for example you might have something dangerous you want to keep away from the crew area (most likely something radioactive) and shielding it is impractical for whatever reason. It would then have be mounted away from the main hull, possibly on the end of something that looks like a wing (think about the nacelles on Star Trek Federation starships).
Also your starship may have extremely sensitive sensors of some sort that need to be isolated from the noisy electromagnetic signals produced by the main body of the ship. Again these sensors could be mounted on something that looks wing like.
They also could simply be actual aerofoils designed for atmospheric flight - but such craft are usually extremely small and barely entitled to the name of starship anyway.
Posted: 2007-05-03 09:17am
by apocolypse
bz249 wrote:Quite a strange thing, I never understand the wingy design of a supposed spaceship. There is no reason to give them wings apart from reducing firing arcs and wasting some material. Coolness and visuals are great, but the elegant lines have not saved Scharnhorst from the ugly quad turrets of the Duke of York.
In addition to Aaron's suggestions, aesthetics itself could play a role in design as well.
Posted: 2007-05-03 09:32am
by bz249
Aaron Ash wrote:
There are some possible reasons - for example you might have something dangerous you want to keep away from the crew area (most likely something radioactive) and shielding it is impractical for whatever reason. It would then have be mounted away from the main hull, possibly on the end of something that looks like a wing (think about the nacelles on Star Trek Federation starships).
If it is dangerous for a human body it must interact with matter, so a rather thin layer of a well selected material is way better to counter it than put it to large distances. Warp nacelles are just brain bugs.
Aaron Ash wrote:
Also your starship may have extremely sensitive sensors of some sort that need to be isolated from the noisy electromagnetic signals produced by the main body of the ship. Again these sensors could be mounted on something that looks wing like.
They also could simply be actual aerofoils designed for atmospheric flight - but such craft are usually extremely small and barely entitled to the name of starship anyway.
Sure, there is plenty of reason for putting something far away from the hull. However IMHO there is plenty of much better possibilities than a large sized wing (a Neb B like hull for e.g.).
Posted: 2007-05-03 10:09am
by Laughing Mechanicus
bz249 wrote:Aaron Ash wrote:
There are some possible reasons - for example you might have something dangerous you want to keep away from the crew area (most likely something radioactive) and shielding it is impractical for whatever reason. It would then have be mounted away from the main hull, possibly on the end of something that looks like a wing (think about the nacelles on Star Trek Federation starships).
If it is dangerous for a human body it must interact with matter, so a rather thin layer of a well selected material is way better to counter it than put it to large distances. Warp nacelles are just brain bugs.
I bolded the part you missed. Oh wait, I forgot - science fiction stories never-ever feature phenomenon with physics defying mechanisms
. I only mentioned warp nacelles as an example of the physical configuration I was talking about, I don't know what their 'in universe' justification is.
Posted: 2007-05-03 09:59pm
by Coalition
Aaron Ash wrote:bz249 wrote:Quite a strange thing, I never understand the wingy design of a supposed spaceship. There is no reason to give them wings apart from reducing firing arcs and wasting some material. Coolness and visuals are great, but the elegant lines have not saved Scharnhorst from the ugly quad turrets of the Duke of York.
There are some possible reasons - for example you might have something dangerous you want to keep away from the crew area (most likely something radioactive) and shielding it is impractical for whatever reason. It would then have be mounted away from the main hull, possibly on the end of something that looks like a wing (think about the nacelles on Star Trek Federation starships).
Also your starship may have extremely sensitive sensors of some sort that need to be isolated from the noisy electromagnetic signals produced by the main body of the ship. Again these sensors could be mounted on something that looks wing like.
How about radiators to get rid of heat? Have the radiators on the wings, armor the fronts to resist enemy fire, and you can keep cooler while not worrying as much about a hit.
Of course, if the enemy manages to flank you, or detonate nukes/shrapnel tips beside you, then you might have a 'problem'.
Posted: 2007-05-04 03:15am
by Shadowtraveler
The Dark wrote:Franly, I don't see the point of designing a ship's shape to something that size - maneuverability will be shite anyway
Why would you need to manuveur when you possess more weaponry on either side than entire fleets?
Posted: 2007-05-04 09:11am
by CaptJodan
Coalition wrote:
How about radiators to get rid of heat? Have the radiators on the wings, armor the fronts to resist enemy fire, and you can keep cooler while not worrying as much about a hit.
This theory of course actually having some precident with smaller craft such as the Eta-2, ARC-170 and I think even the TIE fighters according to the ICS.
There are some truly wacky design choices in Star Wars (ST, B5, etc), but some of them can be attributed to simple asthetic choices. Hapes likes wings (at least in one offical design), what the hell is the problem?
As an aside, in the choices between having a large, but non-critical wing being blown off my starship or having the forward section of my ship snapped away at the neck and isolated from my main reactor and engines as they float away, I think I'd choose to go with the former.
Posted: 2007-05-04 10:42am
by The Dark
Shadowtraveler wrote:The Dark wrote:Franly, I don't see the point of designing a ship's shape to something that size - maneuverability will be shite anyway
Why would you need to manuveur when you possess more weaponry on either side than entire fleets?
Because what happens when the enemy's entire fleet can maneuver into an arc where the majority of your weapons can't fire? Having big guns is nice. Having the ability to target ships without gross gaping blind spots? Priceless.
Posted: 2007-05-05 12:47pm
by Shadowtraveler
The Dark wrote:Because what happens when the enemy's entire fleet can maneuver into an arc where the majority of your weapons can't fire?
That's what the ISDs and (possibly) Executors in your hangar bays are for.
Posted: 2007-05-05 01:16pm
by TC Pilot
If a ship that size would exist, the obvious shape would be a sphere.
Oh wait...
Posted: 2007-05-07 03:46pm
by LordChaos
bz249 wrote:
Quite a strange thing, I never understand the wingy design of a supposed spaceship. There is no reason to give them wings apart from reducing firing arcs and wasting some material. Coolness and visuals are great, but the elegant lines have not saved Scharnhorst from the ugly quad turrets of the Duke of York.
Possibly to mount sensors farther out from the shadow of the hull? Maybe some sourt of ECM / ECCM gear that wouldn't be as effective it was mounted closer, but practical limitations keep it from being even farther out?