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Mass Producing Mandalorian Iron
Posted: 2007-05-12 04:24am
by Ritterin Sophia
Mandalorian Iron, called Bekar by it's makers, is a nearly indestructible, lightsaber resistant metal alloy that was surprisingly light. My question is? Could it be mass-produced? I'm leaning on yes, owing to the fact that the Neo-Crusaders were obviously capable of doing so, however, some cite that as owing to the resources the Mandalorians acquired during the four year Great Sith War when the Crusaders fought alongside Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma. Obviously this is rediculous, since not only did they wear a much more primative armour, but the resources they'd stolen from the Republic were reclaimed and the Crusaders all but wiped out. So, what would stop the Republic from mass producing it and including the alloy as a component of a new form of plastoid for the Clone Troopers and Storm Troopers? They have Jango there who designed there armour and his own is said to be made of Mandalorian Iron, they also have the rest of the Cuy'val Dar, why wouldn't Palpatine jump at the chance to have his elite troops equipped with this uber armour?
Posted: 2007-05-12 04:34am
by Starglider
How good is this stuff against blasters? What thickness do you need to stop a blaster rifle? Or an E-web? Does it work as starfighter armour (where weight as well as toughness is critical)? How does it compare to 'impervium', 'quantum crystalline armour', 'molecularly bonded armour', 'phrik alloy' etc?
Posted: 2007-05-12 04:59am
by Ritterin Sophia
Well, let's see, Lumiya's lightwip was made from it and the metal lashes were sheathed in the same energy as a lightsaber when it turned on. Also, Freedon Nadd's tomb was encased in it to protect it from when the moon it was on, Dxun, would pass close enough to Onderon that the atmospheres would touch and flying wildlife could migrate back and forth, obviously causing some problems with the gravity. That's about all I know, unless someone has Republic Commando: Triple Zero and tell us how effective Walon Vau's saber was.
Posted: 2007-05-12 05:14am
by Stark
General Schatten wrote:Well, let's see, Lumiya's lightwip was made from it and the metal lashes were sheathed in the same energy as a lightsaber when it turned on. ...
WHAT.
Posted: 2007-05-12 05:27am
by Ritterin Sophia
Stark wrote:General Schatten wrote:Well, let's see, Lumiya's lightwip was made from it and the metal lashes were sheathed in the same energy as a lightsaber when it turned on. ...
WHAT.
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Posted: 2007-05-12 05:29am
by Stark
*backs away slowly*
Okaaaay....
Posted: 2007-05-12 07:36am
by Spearfish
That is one of the most incredibly stupid things I have ever seen. What moron thought up the 'Lightwhip'?
Posted: 2007-05-12 07:56am
by Ritterin Sophia
The same one to come up with lightchucks?
And if you know what numchucks purpose as weapons were, you'd know why that's retarded.
Posted: 2007-05-12 09:05am
by Spearfish
Oh, fucking hell.
I've used nunchaku myself occasionally, and while I have no more than a passing knowledge of their use, I can say that there's no way in hell that would work. I mean... that's spectacularly retarded. You'd end up dicing yourself.
Posted: 2007-05-12 10:39am
by CaptHawkeye
I await what further insults to European and Japanese fuedalistic history the EU has in store for us. What next? Lightsaber spearmen?
As for the uber armor, it's possible that the supply was lost throughout the thousands of years between the Mandolorian wars and CW. Or that advances in lightsaver technology made it impractical. Unless Vader's armor was a kind of Mandolorian armor.
Posted: 2007-05-12 11:22am
by Knife
I could take the whip if it was just the braided metal (or what ever it is), it's the lightsaber aspect that...gah's... me.
Posted: 2007-05-12 11:41am
by ColonialAdmiral
It's pretty Impractical though to equip all your troops with it. Jedi are somewhat rare....
And in the Original Triology, There aren't really any Jedi left...Are there?
Posted: 2007-05-12 11:54am
by Ritterin Sophia
CaptHawkeye wrote:What next? Lightsaber spearmen?
You were saying?
New policy, no saying, 'At least they don't have light<weapon>'... you'll just be giving them ideas.
Posted: 2007-05-12 12:16pm
by CaptHawkeye
General Schatten wrote:CaptHawkeye wrote:What next? Lightsaber spearmen?
You were saying?
New policy, no saying, 'At least they don't have light<weapon>'... you'll just be giving them ideas.
So God does exist. What else could explain these punishments seemingly aimed at us?
Posted: 2007-05-12 12:18pm
by Noble Ire
ColonialAdmiral wrote:It's pretty Impractical though to equip all your troops with it. Jedi are somewhat rare....
And in the Original Triology, There aren't really any Jedi left...Are there?
There were a small handful that escaped the Purge, but most of them, like Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda, were secreted on remote, Rim-ward planets, determined to keep below Imperial notice. Very few of them would actually seek out and engage Imperial soldiers, hardly enough to justify outfitting their soldiers with lightsaber-resistant armor.
There have been specialized units equipped with that sort of protection, like the CIS Cortosis battle droids, or Desaan's Shadowtroopers, but they make use of other lightsaber-resistant substances, like cortosis and phrik. Perhaps those metals are simply more abundant, durable, or cost-efficient than Mandalorian Iron.
Posted: 2007-05-12 12:22pm
by Ritterin Sophia
CaptHawkeye wrote:General Schatten wrote:CaptHawkeye wrote:What next? Lightsaber spearmen?
You were saying?
New policy, no saying, 'At least they don't have light<weapon>'... you'll just be giving them ideas.
So God does exist. What else could explain these punishments seemingly aimed at us?
The Lightspearman's name is Darth Nihl... as in nihilist, so he's goth nihilist...
Posted: 2007-05-12 12:33pm
by Tanasinn
I find the Vader-esque panel on Lumiya's chest just as stupid as her shitty weapon.
Posted: 2007-05-12 12:40pm
by CaptHawkeye
Tanasinn wrote:I find the Vader-esque panel on Lumiya's chest just as stupid as her shitty weapon.
Don't forget her Spiderman ripoff suit.
Posted: 2007-05-12 12:50pm
by Ritterin Sophia
Tanasinn wrote:I find the Vader-esque panel on Lumiya's chest just as stupid as her shitty weapon.
Well she was Vader's Apprentice for a short time, and luke did nearly kill her by blasting her with an X-Wing.
Posted: 2007-05-12 01:07pm
by Knife
General Schatten wrote:Tanasinn wrote:I find the Vader-esque panel on Lumiya's chest just as stupid as her shitty weapon.
Well she was Vader's Apprentice for a short time, and luke did nearly kill her by blasting her with an X-Wing.
What are you saying? That her lungs were FUBARed too?
Posted: 2007-05-12 01:42pm
by Ritterin Sophia
Knife wrote:General Schatten wrote:Tanasinn wrote:I find the Vader-esque panel on Lumiya's chest just as stupid as her shitty weapon.
Well she was Vader's Apprentice for a short time, and luke did nearly kill her by blasting her with an X-Wing.
What are you saying? That her lungs were FUBARed too?
Possibly, she
was shot down in a Rebel TIE/ln that was used in an attempt at infiltrating an Imperial Fleet, however she flew into Lukes flightpath and he couldn't identify her because a creature called a Teezl disrupted his equipment, so he shot her down using the force to identify his enemies (She registered as an enemy because she'd infiltrated the Rebel forces to kill Luke under the order of Vader) and she barely survived because of the genetic modification she'd had.
Posted: 2007-05-12 03:43pm
by Knife
General Schatten wrote:
Possibly, she was shot down in a Rebel TIE/ln that was used in an attempt at infiltrating an Imperial Fleet, however she flew into Lukes flightpath and he couldn't identify her because a creature called a Teezl disrupted his equipment, so he shot her down using the force to identify his enemies (She registered as an enemy because she'd infiltrated the Rebel forces to kill Luke under the order of Vader) and she barely survived because of the genetic modification she'd had.
*sigh* I hate the EU
Posted: 2007-05-12 03:55pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Tanasinn wrote:I find the Vader-esque panel on Lumiya's chest just as stupid as her shitty weapon.
Yeah, cybernetics don't have as much credibility when attached to some bitch's catsuit.
EU ahoy!
Re: Mass Producing Mandalorian Iron
Posted: 2007-05-12 06:59pm
by nightmare
General Schatten wrote:Could it be mass-produced? I'm leaning on yes, owing to the fact that the Neo-Crusaders were obviously capable of doing so,
It was a closely kept secret and may have been restricted to include materials found only on Mandalore. It should still be possible to synthesize artificially, but that's not the same as saying it would be economically viable to synthesize and mass-produce mandametal. Perhaps it could be done but other materials would likely suffice in most cases with greater cost-efficiency.
Posted: 2007-05-12 08:20pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Its probably just not cost effective to mass produce and equip, and does not compare favorably against conventional threat types for its weight and other handling characteristics.