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The Essential Darth Vader.

Notably, from the updated Executor databank:

The Executor was the first of a new generation of immense warships, lending its name to the Executor-class Star Dreadnought. Its difficult-to-comprehend size and destructive power led many to borrow superlatives popularized during the Clone Wars, and simply call it a Super-class Star Destroyer, though this was by no means an official label.

And from the BtS

Though the name "Super Star Destroyer" is spoken in the films, it is now revealed that the correct nomenclature to describe the ship type is "Star Dreadnought," not to be confused with the Dreadnaught heavy cruisers also found in the Imperial fleet.

to repair his former droid companion R2-D2

I assume they meant to say "replace", not "repair".

All in all, it looks really cool, and it's nice to see that most people finally realize why battleships got called "dreadnoughts" eventually, not "destroyer". 8)

Its difficult-to-comprehend size and destructive power led many to borrow superlatives popularized during the Clone Wars, and simply call it a Super-class Star Destroyer

Emphasis mine. Is this a slight reference to the minimalists in the discussions who can't seem to comprehend why the Executor isn't the same warship type as the regular Star Destroyers? It'd be a first. :P

Somewhere, McEwok is crying his eyes out.

Blah. I hate that Star Dreadnought name. I always thought Super Star Destroyer sounded really cool.

Why was it changed when the films never mentioned such a name and explicitly called the ship a Super Star Destroyer?

I know I am in the minority with this opinion, but it strikes me as a slap in the face to the legacy of the films.

Well, the "Super Star Destroyer" moniker started with a fucking toy, so that's pretty retarded. Thinking a ship that's 100 times heavier and ten times longer than the regular Star Destroyer is gonna be a heavy version of that in turn, doesn't rank to high either, imho. Which is the only reason a "super" moniker is attached to anything in the first place, and it sure isn't an official military term, either.

A Star Destroyer is a destroyer that's in space, a Star Dreadnought is a dreadnought in space. Ignoring the fact that every single warship in SW has to have a hangar or 100, and is essentially a carrier as well, they basically follow the same assignments relative to the sea-going versions.

VT-16 wrote:Well, the "Super Star Destroyer" moniker started with a fucking toy, so that's pretty retarded.

Was "Concentrate all fire on that super star destroyer" an addition to the SE? I don't remember that.

I know I am in the minority with this opinion, but it strikes me as a slap in the face to the legacy of the films.

Horseshit. Is it a slap to the face of anyone when we say "B2 droid" instead of "super battle droid?" A great deal of the technology in Star Wars has an official, in-universe designation and a casual moniker. A striking parallel to the real world, that.

Was "Concentrate all fire on that super star destroyer" an addition to the SE? I don't remember that.

No, but I think VT-16 is correct, and it was an ESB tie-in toy that originated the name. As I understand it, several other names were rejected as being "too scary."

For what I know, in the beginning they would call it the Executor, but the name was rejected exactly as too scary.

I thought Excecutor was a rejected name for Devastator...

It's mentioned in Empire Strikes Back Official Poster Monthly in 1980 as the Executor.

And to be technical, in ROTJ, it's referred to as a command ship by Palpatine and Han Solo, and even "one of many" by Han when he sees it.

Whenever it's referred to as a "Star Destroyer" or a "Super Star Destroyer" it's either in passing or when a character is in distress/preoccupied. I doubt they'd slow down to get technical about what it is, that's where colloquialism comes in handy.

Nice, but the Death Star diameters remain incorrect.

And, someone please do rub this in the face of McEwok, and the SFJ Trektards.

Blackmyron sounded quietly butthurt on the Fleet Junkies thread on TFN. :P

Can someone explain to me why they went with the 19km figure instead of the more accurate 17.6km? I know I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but it still irks me.

It wasn't more accurate, it was a compromise between sizes, since the Executor varied a little. 17,6 was an average, IIRC.

VT-16 wrote:Blackmyron sounded quietly butthurt on the Fleet Junkies thread on TFN.

Do you have a link, TFN is very cluttered and hard to navigate?

VT-16 wrote:Blackmyron sounded quietly butthurt on the Fleet Junkies thread on TFN.

Blackmyron? I recall that fella was of the variety to try his best to reconcile both ends of contradiction.

Galvatron wrote:Can someone explain to me why they went with the 19km figure instead of the more accurate 17.6km? I know I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but it still irks me.

Saxton reevaluated the Executor to 19 km based on better estimates of the bridge tower's scale (this work and better models he had access to as part of his ITW work, since the work article was on the Executor's bridge tower and that's where the new estimate appeared).

Isn't Pablo still in charge of SW.com? I find this update, along with one of the winning "What's the Story" entries which more or less openly mocked Traviss' claim about the nature of the Clone Wars, to run somewhat contrary to his stance so far.

Nice, but the Death Star diameters remain incorrect.

They very rarely update existing entries unless there's a "theme" (such as this one).

Exceptions happen, like the Executor length, and Motti's first name, but usually old entries remain as they are until there's a major update...[/i]

Mange wrote:Isn't Pablo still in charge of SW.com? I find this update, along with one of the winning "What's the Story" entries which more or less openly mocked Traviss' claim about the nature of the Clone Wars, to run somewhat contrary to his stance so far.

Which one's that?

The one about Pello Scrambas, one of Leia's bodyguards on the Tantive IV. During the Clone Wars, his superiors in the Alderaan Defense Force thought the war would take place far from the more civilized regions and be little more than a brushfire conflict. They were wrong. :P

General Schatten wrote:Do you have a link, TFN is very cluttered and hard to navigate?

It's the Fleet Junkies thread, usually on one of the first pages in the Literature section.

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Saxton reevaluated the Executor to 19 km based on better estimates of the bridge tower's scale (this work and better models he had access to as part of his ITW work, since the work article was on the Executor's bridge tower and that's where the new estimate appeared).

Are the dimensions of the Executor's bridge tower no longer identical to the ISD's?

I always thought it was bigger. You can tell when the shuttle passes it because it takes just about forever, while the Falcon (which has a similar size) fits onto one side of an ISD tower and looks alot bigger in comparison to it.