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Can Vader ABSORB Blaster Bolts?

Posted: 2003-01-30 03:14am
by Lord Poe
Why, yes, yes he can:

http://h4h.com/louis/absorb.html

Posted: 2003-01-30 03:20am
by Robert Treder
Nice work as usual, Mr. Poe.

Posted: 2003-01-30 03:47am
by Crown
Prepare yourself for an immediate round of screamin and hairpulling antics from Scooter... *shuders*

Posted: 2003-01-30 03:50am
by Boba Fett
Fact is fact, proofs are those shots, but I'm pretty sure there'll be some person who won't accept them...

Nice work Lord Poe!

Posted: 2003-01-30 04:01am
by Sea Skimmer
There will be people who will insist the glove must have absorbed and redirected the bolts. They will of course have no answer as to why this thin flexible material isn't used for Stormtrooper armor, since it has demonstrated much greater resistance if it in fact did what they claimed.

Posted: 2003-01-30 04:10am
by Robert Treder
Sea Skimmer wrote:There will be people who will insist the glove must have absorbed and redirected the bolts. They will of course have no answer as to why this thin flexible material isn't used for Stormtrooper armor, since it has demonstrated much greater resistance if it in fact did what they claimed.
Since I can see the future, I'll let you in on the rebuttal:

"It's too expensive for the Empire to produce in mass quantities, even though they can build Death Stars in secret. The reason it's so expensive is it probably utilizes mass transphasic crystalline neuro quarks to subsidize the J-field intensity modulation phases. Quantum. All this is moot, since the glove can't beat the navigational deflectors of a Fed ship."

Posted: 2003-01-30 05:37am
by Crown
That was actually very funny :D

Posted: 2003-01-30 05:47am
by Boba Fett
LOL

Robert the "oracle"!!! :lol:

Posted: 2003-01-30 10:26am
by Master of Ossus
Scooter's been screwed. Yet again.

Scooter's take:

"Impossible. Nothing can get through my Wall of Ignorance."

Posted: 2003-01-30 02:20pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Score one for the Dark Side.

Posted: 2003-01-30 02:26pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
This also proves that it's not the gloves that did it, but Vader's Force powers.

Posted: 2003-01-30 02:55pm
by Stravo
Master of Ossus wrote:Scooter's been screwed. Yet again.

Scooter's take:

"Impossible. Nothing can get through my Wall of Ignorance."
Oh, Osssus, if only he would EXPLODE shortly after saying that....but a man can dream....

Posted: 2003-01-30 03:23pm
by Darth Servo
Your next addition should be a highlight of the Asteroid impacting the ISD in TESB.

Have one pic of the ISD right before impact and draw an outline of the bridge tower.

Then have another pic after impact and superimpose the outline on that pic to show that the bridge was in fact totally obscured by the asteroid debris, so that it is clear that we cannot tell how much damage was actually done to the bridge (to refute the Trekkies who insist that the ship was completely decapitated or worse yet, destroyed).

Also, have a link directly to this part of the page if it is part of a larger page.

Posted: 2003-01-30 04:45pm
by Kerneth
Further proof, accepting the EU as canon, Corran Horn in "I, Jedi" is able to absorb energy and use it to power telekinesis (which he can't do otherwise because he's defective). Luke tells Corran "My father could absorb blaster bolts and use the energy to perform telekinetic 'tricks' as well."

This is slightly screwy, of course, since we see Anakin Skywalker perform telekinesis without first being shot with a blaster on numerous occasions. Still, it's possible that Vader can use the energy in that way as well as a "normal" telekinetic force pull or push.

Posted: 2003-01-30 05:10pm
by His Divine Shadow
That was just a quirk that was in Corran Horn's genes.

Posted: 2003-01-30 05:19pm
by Mad
His Divine Shadow wrote:That was just a quirk that was in Corran Horn's genes.
Huh? Corran was stronger than most with absorption and mind control, and incredibly weak with telekinesis, but none of his powers were exclusive to his family line.

Posted: 2003-01-30 05:22pm
by His Divine Shadow
Mad wrote:
His Divine Shadow wrote:That was just a quirk that was in Corran Horn's genes.
Huh? Corran was stronger than most with absorption and mind control, and incredibly weak with telekinesis, but none of his powers were exclusive to his family line.
Thats what I meant by genes, should have been more clear.
I didn't mean to imply they where exclusive either.
Though I've not seen anyone outside Corran's family absorbing power for purposes of telekinesis.

Posted: 2003-01-30 07:48pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Kerneth wrote:This is slightly screwy, of course, since we see Anakin Skywalker perform telekinesis without first being shot with a blaster on numerous occasions. Still, it's possible that Vader can use the energy in that way as well as a "normal" telekinetic force pull or push.
That doesn't make any sense on your part. Just because he could use the energy to power Force tricks without straining himself, doesn't mean he HAD to.

Posted: 2003-01-30 11:17pm
by Kerneth
Illuminatus Primus wrote:
Kerneth wrote:This is slightly screwy, of course, since we see Anakin Skywalker perform telekinesis without first being shot with a blaster on numerous occasions. Still, it's possible that Vader can use the energy in that way as well as a "normal" telekinetic force pull or push.
That doesn't make any sense on your part. Just because he could use the energy to power Force tricks without straining himself, doesn't mean he HAD to.
I didn't say Anakin Skywalker *had* to use the energy that way, I said he *could* if he wanted to.

Posted: 2003-01-30 11:24pm
by Illuminatus Primus
I was refering to your conclusion it was screwy.

Posted: 2003-02-02 02:04am
by Uraniun235
Very nice, Poe.

Wouldn't it be cool to be the guy who holds up his hand and has huge plumes of sparks blast out from it?

Posted: 2003-02-02 03:26am
by Connor MacLeod
Whats interesting is that (due to an analysis of a debate I've been involved in in antoher thread) there is some interesting suggestion about "energy handling" capabilities for Jedi:

In "I, Jedi" Corran Horn and his grandfather (in the vision) are both able to completely drain lightsaber energy more or less in an instant.. this suggests hundreds of watts to several gigawatts of energy-handling capability (estimating conservatively from the TPM door-melting scene using my own calcs). While The "Halcyon" line is known to be "strong" in other ways due to its inability to use TK (its inferred that the "line" may have been skilled in other abilities, not just energy draining or illusion) - it seems reasonable that this would give us a rough "order of magnitude" estimate for others (particularily powerful Masters like Yoda) This is also substantaited by Qui Gon's abi lity to stick his hand close to that melting door without any apparent ill effect.

Additionally, we can consider that the fact Jedi can handle blaster bolts (which could easily be in MJ range, and are at least mid to high KJ) can handle blaster bolts without difficulty substantiates that.

Posted: 2003-02-02 03:31am
by Isolder74
Stravo wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:Scooter's been screwed. Yet again.

Scooter's take:

"Impossible. Nothing can get through my Wall of Ignorance."
Oh, Osssus, if only he would EXPLODE shortly after saying that....but a man can dream....
perhaps we could turn him into Kryton and then tell him We want to put catsup on Lobster!

Posted: 2003-02-03 01:30pm
by Typhonis 1
PLEASE Kryton is a much smatter being than Scooter ever will be to demeane him by turing Scooter into him :shakes head: shame shame shame

Posted: 2003-02-03 02:11pm
by Isolder74
Typhonis 1 wrote:PLEASE Kryton is a much smatter being than Scooter ever will be to demeane him by turing Scooter into him :shakes head: shame shame shame
Sorry I was trying to think of ways to make him Spontainiously Combust