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Question

Posted: 2003-02-03 06:59pm
by Jason von Evil
What's the largest structure in the SW universe, besides the Kuat shipward ring thing?

Re: Question

Posted: 2003-02-03 08:12pm
by Master of Ossus
Aya wrote:What's the largest structure in the SW universe, besides the Kuat shipward ring thing?
SW has many other artificial constructions, including the Maw Cluster (a cluster of black holes that is astrologically large), however if you mean one that is inhabitable, it would be either Centerpoint Station or the Corellian System (if you consider that to be constructed). It can also be argued the Coruscant is a massive construction, and the shipyards at Sluis Van are probably just as big as the ones at Kuat, or of similar scale, as were the ones at Fondor.

Posted: 2003-02-03 08:17pm
by Jason von Evil
I meant out of all the structures in the SW universe. :)

Edit: What did you mean about the Corellian system?

Posted: 2003-02-03 08:28pm
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
Aya wrote:I meant out of all the structures in the SW universe. :)

Edit: What did you mean about the Corellian system?
I bleieve the manmade Centerpoint Station was used to move the Correlian System's planets in place.

Also, what about that artificial planet in The Crystal Star?

Posted: 2003-02-03 08:38pm
by Jason von Evil
Whoa, wait, they can movie systems in SW!? :shock:

Posted: 2003-02-03 08:38pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:
Aya wrote:I meant out of all the structures in the SW universe. :)

Edit: What did you mean about the Corellian system?
I bleieve the manmade Centerpoint Station was used to move the Correlian System's planets in place.

Also, what about that artificial planet in The Crystal Star?
Centerpoint was used for that, but it was not bulit by the Empire nor the Republic, but instaed by some ancient, mysterious alien race. So does that still count?

Hethirir's wordship is what your talking about. The YV have them also.

Posted: 2003-02-03 08:41pm
by Master of Ossus
Aya wrote:Whoa, wait, they can movie systems in SW!? :shock:
Actually, the Corellian system was manufactured in the distant pass by a race that installed everything from repulsorlifts to hyperdrives beneath the ground of the planet. Later generations have uncovered the massive propulsion systems used in the construction, and surmised that it was manufactured by moving planets from other areas into orbit around a star.

Posted: 2003-02-03 08:43pm
by Jason von Evil
Master of Ossus wrote:
Aya wrote:Whoa, wait, they can movie systems in SW!? :shock:
Actually, the Corellian system was manufactured in the distant pass by a race that installed everything from repulsorlifts to hyperdrives beneath the ground of the planet. Later generations have uncovered the massive propulsion systems used in the construction, and surmised that it was manufactured by moving planets from other areas into orbit around a star.
*Keels over* x_X

Posted: 2003-02-03 08:45pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
Aya wrote:Whoa, wait, they can movie systems in SW!? :shock:
The Hyperspace Aliens were able to move planets through Hyperspace and reposition them into orbits (the Corelian System), and position black holes within close proximity of each other (the Maw). They used a construct now called Centerpoint Station to pull and position the planets, and it doubles as a nova inducing super weapon (at least before it was deactivated).

Currently, there seems to be some planet in the NJO arc that travels around in Hyperspace, but I haven't read any of the books.

EDIT: Um, basically what Ossus said. :oops:

EDIT2: IIRC, Centerpoint Station wasn't that big, smaller than DS1, I think.

Posted: 2003-02-03 08:50pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Master of Ossus wrote:
Aya wrote:Whoa, wait, they can movie systems in SW!? :shock:
Actually, the Corellian system was manufactured in the distant pass by a race that installed everything from repulsorlifts to hyperdrives beneath the ground of the planet. Later generations have uncovered the massive propulsion systems used in the construction, and surmised that it was manufactured by moving planets from other areas into orbit around a star.
Actually they didn't build hyperdrives on the planets, if I'm not mistaken.

Centerpoint would literally open up wormholes and pull planets through.

When modified, its tractor beam function could be used to alter a star's fusion and enduce an explosion in the system capable of the destroying everything there.

It is also speculated that they constructed the Maw Black Hole cluster.

Centerpoint's main sphere was the size of the DS I. Each of the two towers was about equal to the diameter of the sphere. Therefore the Centerpoint should have a diameter of 160 km, and a length of 480 km.

Posted: 2003-02-03 08:58pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Actually they didn't build hyperdrives on the planets, if I'm not mistaken.
I don't think it's defined whether or not Zonoma Sekot had built or "grown" hyperspace engines.

World ships, the Imperial ones (Not the YV), do have built hyperspace engines. Does anybody have the dimensions on a worldship?
Centerpoint would literally open up wormholes and pull planets through.

When modified, its tractor beam function could be used to alter a star's fusion and enduce an explosion in the system capable of the destroying everything there.
Wormholes? I thought it kind of just pushed stuff.....that is the idea of a tractor/repulser beam right?

Re: Question

Posted: 2003-02-03 10:01pm
by Kuja
Master of Ossus wrote:
Aya wrote:What's the largest structure in the SW universe, besides the Kuat shipward ring thing?
SW has many other artificial constructions, including the Maw Cluster (a cluster of black holes that is astrologically large)
Since when are the black holes of the Maw artificial?

Posted: 2003-02-03 10:05pm
by Mr Bean
Since when are the black holes of the Maw artificial?
The arrangement is artificial not the Black Holes themselves

*Edit delete Iggy's accidential post

Posted: 2003-02-04 12:25am
by Illuminatus Primus
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Actually they didn't build hyperdrives on the planets, if I'm not mistaken.
I don't think it's defined whether or not Zonoma Sekot had built or "grown" hyperspace engines.

World ships, the Imperial ones (Not the YV), do have built hyperspace engines. Does anybody have the dimensions on a worldship?
NO. That the Corellian planets did not have hyperdrives. Centerpoint simply pulled them through then they stuck giant repulsors on them.
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Centerpoint would literally open up wormholes and pull planets through.

When modified, its tractor beam function could be used to alter a star's fusion and enduce an explosion in the system capable of the destroying everything there.
Wormholes? I thought it kind of just pushed stuff.....that is the idea of a tractor/repulser beam right?
Want to explain why each planet didn't take thousands or millions of years to arrive, thus freezing and killing the planet?

It had to open up a wormhole to bring it through FTL.

Re: Question

Posted: 2003-02-04 12:28am
by Master of Ossus
IG-88E wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:
Aya wrote:What's the largest structure in the SW universe, besides the Kuat shipward ring thing?
SW has many other artificial constructions, including the Maw Cluster (a cluster of black holes that is astrologically large)
Since when are the black holes of the Maw artificial?
They're not, however their PLACEMENT is. They were moved there by the hyperspace aliens in the distant past.

Posted: 2003-02-04 12:33am
by Master of Ossus
AHA! I see, there're conflicting sources. According to one, the Corellian system planets had "engines" installed on some worlds, which were later discovered archeologically. Most sources, however, claim that the system was made entirely using Centerpoint. EGPM has the most elegant solution: "Eons earlier the [Corellian] system's planets had been moved into their orbits by planetary repulsors and the hyperspace tractor called Centerpoint Station." In other words, the system HAS repulsorlifts, but no hyperdrive, and Centerpoint propels objects through hyperspace without such devices.

Posted: 2003-02-04 09:29am
by Lord Pounder
If you wanna go for planet bound structures made by humans the Imperial Palace on Coruscant was suposed to be huge, individually the size of any other planet's Capital.

Posted: 2003-02-04 09:26pm
by Master of Ossus
Darth Pounder wrote:If you wanna go for planet bound structures made by humans the Imperial Palace on Coruscant was suposed to be huge, individually the size of any other planet's Capital.
NTM the artificial moon that has been visited in the Droid comic series.

Posted: 2003-02-04 09:39pm
by Kuja
Master of Ossus wrote:
Darth Pounder wrote:If you wanna go for planet bound structures made by humans the Imperial Palace on Coruscant was suposed to be huge, individually the size of any other planet's Capital.
NTM the artificial moon that has been visited in the Droid comic series.
Hosk Station. It wasn't artificial, it's just that the station covered the entire moon.

Posted: 2003-02-04 09:41pm
by Master of Ossus
IG-88E wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:
Darth Pounder wrote:If you wanna go for planet bound structures made by humans the Imperial Palace on Coruscant was suposed to be huge, individually the size of any other planet's Capital.
NTM the artificial moon that has been visited in the Droid comic series.
Hosk Station. It wasn't artificial, it's just that the station covered the entire moon.
I know, but they've built up the moon to be fantastically larger than the natural surface was. In SW, there tend to be urbanized planets and moons that are almost completely covered with cities. Nar Shadaa was another good example of such a location.

Re: Question

Posted: 2003-02-04 10:47pm
by Lord Sander
Master of Ossus wrote:
IG-88E wrote:Since when are the black holes of the Maw artificial?
They're not, however their PLACEMENT is. They were moved there by the hyperspace aliens in the distant past.
That's only one theory. It's unknown how the Maw cluster was created.

Posted: 2003-02-05 03:34am
by Connor MacLeod
Darth Garden Gnome wrote:
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:
Aya wrote:I meant out of all the structures in the SW universe. :)

Edit: What did you mean about the Corellian system?
I bleieve the manmade Centerpoint Station was used to move the Correlian System's planets in place.

Also, what about that artificial planet in The Crystal Star?
Centerpoint was used for that, but it was not bulit by the Empire nor the Republic, but instaed by some ancient, mysterious alien race. So does that still count?

Hethirir's wordship is what your talking about. The YV have them also.
Its a worldcraft.

Posted: 2003-02-05 03:38am
by Connor MacLeod
I'll have to recheck Rogue Planet, but I recall they bought the engines (Subspace and hyperdrive) - Sekot was a place of organic technology (Tehre it is again!) whereas the engines and hyperdrive were non-organic in design.