Dark Troopers ?

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2003-02-06 08:53pm

Are Dark Troopers featured anywhere other than Computer games and Essential Tech guides ?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-02-06 08:55pm

Dark Horse as well if I remeber correctly...

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-02-06 09:38pm

Mr Bean wrote:Dark Horse as well if I remeber correctly...

Yes. At least twice. And in the SW Tales mag.

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-02-07 04:01am

IG-88E wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:Dark Horse as well if I remeber correctly...
Yes. At least twice. And in the SW Tales mag.

Yes there was a tale when a swoop bike gang and a java discovers a crashed ship in the podrace arena and they find an operating dark trooper inside.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-02-07 04:14am

Are the dark troopers outside of Dark Forces as powerful as the ones in the game? (either stage 2 or stage 3)

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-02-07 04:31am

The Dark Troopers in SW: Rebellion aren't worth the cost in that game unless you use editor to jack up their stats.

Boba Fett · Post by **Boba Fett** » 2003-02-07 04:34am

Darth Fanboy wrote:The Dark Troopers in SW: Rebellion aren't worth the cost in that game unless you use editor to jack up their stats.

Nope...

They are the best detector units after the characters.

Three of them in a garrison can hold up even Luke for a while.

white_rabbit · Post by **white_rabbit** » 2003-02-07 12:29pm

IG-88E wrote:
Mr Bean wrote:Dark Horse as well if I remeber correctly...
Yes. At least twice. And in the SW Tales mag.

any links ?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-02-07 12:34pm

They mention them also in the Rebel players guide from the RPG.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-02-07 02:11pm

Shinova wrote:Are the dark troopers outside of Dark Forces as powerful as the ones in the game? (either stage 2 or stage 3)

A single stage two wiped out a freight crew and a Jawa sandcrawler, and took a SHITLOAD of damage before being brought down.

white_rabbit wrote:any links ?

Not to my knowledge

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2003-02-07 03:40pm

The are Imperial only units in Galatic Battle Ground

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-02-07 03:50pm

They were in Dark Empire 2.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-07 07:26pm

Ender wrote:They were in Dark Empire 2.

You sure of that? I don't remember even seeing them in it.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-02-07 07:28pm

Ender wrote:They were in Dark Empire 2.

I think you're talking about those zero-gee troopers, called space troopers or something. But not dark troopers.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-02-07 07:36pm

Shinova wrote:
Ender wrote:They were in Dark Empire 2.
I think you're talking about those zero-gee troopers, called space troopers or something. But not dark troopers.

I don't remember Spacetroopers in Dark Empire II, either.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-02-07 08:12pm

Shinova wrote:
Ender wrote:They were in Dark Empire 2.
I think you're talking about those zero-gee troopers, called space troopers or something. But not dark troopers.

No, I'm not. I'm talking about the 4 huge guys walking around with the darksiders on Nar Shadda, decked out in black armor that were specifically called Dark Troopers.

Eframepilot · Post by **Eframepilot** » 2003-02-07 08:38pm

Ender wrote:
Shinova wrote:
Ender wrote:They were in Dark Empire 2.
I think you're talking about those zero-gee troopers, called space troopers or something. But not dark troopers.
No, I'm not. I'm talking about the 4 huge guys walking around with the darksiders on Nar Shadda, decked out in black armor that were specifically called Dark Troopers.

Those weren't the droid Dark Troopers from the Dark Forces game. Those were a special legion of human stormtroopers that Palpatine had "empowered with the Dark Side". Ol' Clone Palpy used to "empower" everything with the Dark Side back then - stormtroopers, Shadowdroid cyborg starfighters, guys with weird names like Zasm Fass and all of his household appliances.

SOLUSAR: Hey Luke, we can take apart this automated kitchen in no time!

"Unbeknownst to Jedis Skywalker and Solusar, Palpatine's toaster oven is built to kill, and has even been rumoured to be empowered by the DARK SIDE of the FORCE!!!!!"

SOLUSAR: AAAAh! It's zapping my arm with Force Short Circuiting!

LUKE: (sigh)

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-02-07 10:00pm

Eframepilot wrote:Those weren't the droid Dark Troopers from the Dark Forces game. Those were a special legion of human stormtroopers that Palpatine had "empowered with the Dark Side".

I'm aware they weren't the droids. They were wearing the Mark 3 exosuit version ofthe darktrooper project. Compare them to the stormies we see. Those guys are bigger, have more powerful weapons, and slightly different armor (it's really wide in the chest on the page where they randomly shoot the crowd to try and kill Vima)

Eframepilot · Post by **Eframepilot** » 2003-02-07 10:06pm

Yeah, I remember the scene. But the name "Dark Troopers" and the similarity in armor may just be a coincidence, "Dark Troopers" being a fairly obvious variant from "Stormtroopers" in sounding more eeevil. Does anyone know which came out first, Dark Empire II or Dark Forces? I think it was the former.

It's also possible, in-story, that the Dark Troopers used the armor designed for the droids. But Luke, Rayf and the Ysanna sure wiped out a platoon of them easily.

Lord Sander · Post by **Lord Sander** » 2003-02-07 11:36pm

There could be be regular Dark Troopers in Dark Empire II; at one point an engineer knocks out a larger-than-average Stormtrooper saying something like "Don't mess with me, droids!"
(I don't have the comic handy, so the quote probably isn't completely accurate, but I explicitly remember him calling them droids.)

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2003-02-07 11:44pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Shinova wrote:
Ender wrote:They were in Dark Empire 2.
I think you're talking about those zero-gee troopers, called space troopers or something. But not dark troopers.
I don't remember Spacetroopers in Dark Empire II, either.

HE must be thinking of the SD-9 and SD-10 War Droids

Eframepilot · Post by **Eframepilot** » 2003-02-08 01:10am

Lord Sander wrote:There could be be regular Dark Troopers in Dark Empire II; at one point an engineer knocks out a larger-than-average Stormtrooper saying something like "Don't mess with me, droids!"
(I don't have the comic handy, so the quote probably isn't completely accurate, but I explicitly remember him calling them droids.)

There wasn't a comma in "Don't mess with me droids!" My impression was that he was telling the stormies not to mess with HIS droids.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-02-08 02:23am

IG-88E wrote:
Shinova wrote:Are the dark troopers outside of Dark Forces as powerful as the ones in the game? (either stage 2 or stage 3)
A single stage two wiped out a freight crew and a Jawa sandcrawler, and took a SHITLOAD of damage before being brought down.

It's armor was black; it was a Stage III.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-02-08 02:28am

Ender wrote:
Eframepilot wrote:Those weren't the droid Dark Troopers from the Dark Forces game. Those were a special legion of human stormtroopers that Palpatine had "empowered with the Dark Side".
I'm aware they weren't the droids. They were wearing the Mark 3 exosuit version ofthe darktrooper project. Compare them to the stormies we see. Those guys are bigger, have more powerful weapons, and slightly different armor (it's really wide in the chest on the page where they randomly shoot the crowd to try and kill Vima)

Ender is right.

"Darktroopers" refers to many things over the EU.

Firstly you have the original Dark Trooper project that was reportedly to create "super stormtroopers." In other words, the droids were an interim; and not an actual product. The Dark Trooper project from Dark Forces was an endevour to develop the Exosuit to be warn by stormtroopers as a heavy assault platform.

The Phase III Dark Trooper exosuit never ended up in mass production, but certain versions or developments thereof were issued to Palpatine's Dark Side trained corps of elite stormtroopers, as seen in the Galactic Battlegrounds game, the Rebellion game, and an extra light version possible seen in Dark Empire II.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-02-08 11:56pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
IG-88E wrote:
Shinova wrote:Are the dark troopers outside of Dark Forces as powerful as the ones in the game? (either stage 2 or stage 3)
A single stage two wiped out a freight crew and a Jawa sandcrawler, and took a SHITLOAD of damage before being brought down.
It's armor was black; it was a Stage III.

I don't think it was big enough to be a stage 3. And IIRC, its shoulder armor was that of the S2.

And I forget, did the S3 have a repulsor pack or not? I know the S2 did, and that thing was zipping around.