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Why was Master Yoda able to foil the Order 66 attack on himself, and the other Jedi not able to? Did he have some kind of force-based precog ability and the others did not?

Mike Garrity

The soldiers attacking him were a bit slower to act. He had time to feel the other Jedi dying in the Force, and when he sensed the murderous intent of the soldiers behind him, he responded quickly enough to take the two Clone troopers down. That there were only two Clone troopers was also helpful.

If you watch the movie, a couple of the other Jedi caught on to what was going on, but they were in the first wave so they didn't have much response time and where down right overwhelmed. Yoda had the luxury of not being among the first to get killed so he was able to sense what was going on.

If you watch the movie, all the Jedi are fighting in the front lines with the troops. Yoda is actually acting like a general and sitting back commanding the troops from the rear, so instead of getting blasted by dozens of troops while he's distracted fighting, he just has to deal with Gree and his No. 2.

Yoda was lucky: he was directing the battle far enough to not be distracted by the enemy (unless another droid gunship managed to pass the Clonetroopers and the Wookies) and, maybe because of this, had the time to sense that the other Jedi were getting killed. So, when the three Clonetroopers tried to shoot him in the back, Yoda was ready to slaughter them instead, and they were too few to overwhelm him. Other Jedi were less lucky: Ki-Adi Mundi was fighting with his troops when the Clonetroopers stopped and all his soldiers who could score an hit shot at him, Obi-Wan Kenobi was attacked with a CANNON, etc.

There's also the fact that Yoda was the only person not actively doing anything. Ki Adi Mundi for example was actively in battle, trying to inspire his troops and going to battle when he was shot. Obiwan was riding on a mount up a cliff.
Yoda thus was less distracted by the threat of personal danger and other immediate demands.

Its possible that when using the Force to enhance their combat abilities, their awareness of the surroundings become more "narrowed". Thus, they could sense danger and something wrong, but wasn't able to pinpoint the exact threat and danger.... Add in incredibility that their own Clone troopers are turning on them and that probably completes the cycle.

Also, if i recall correctly, Yoda wasn't the only Jedi to escape the purge, it's not as though he got indescribably lucky and only him. In fact, Palpatine expected some to survive the first wave which is why he made sure to activate the emergency-return beacon in the Jedi Temple.

-AHMAD

BountyHunterSAx wrote:Also, if i recall correctly, Yoda wasn't the only Jedi to escape the purge, it's not as though he got indescribably lucky and only him. In fact, Palpatine expected some to survive the first wave which is why he made sure to activate the emergency-return beacon in the Jedi Temple.

-AHMAD

Yep. Quite a few survived the initial attack - the number is at least in the low hundreds - and were subsequently killed, either by clone troopers at the Temple or during the later Purge.

Molyneux wrote:

BountyHunterSAx wrote:Also, if i recall correctly, Yoda wasn't the only Jedi to escape the purge, it's not as though he got indescribably lucky and only him. In fact, Palpatine expected some to survive the first wave which is why he made sure to activate the emergency-return beacon in the Jedi Temple.

-AHMAD

Yep. Quite a few survived the initial attack - the number is at least in the low hundreds - and were subsequently killed, either by clone troopers at the Temple or during the later Purge.

Or Vader.

I think you're all overthinking it.

He reacted faster...because he's fast. Look at him when he fights, he's several times faster and more agile--not to mention a smaller target--than any human we've ever seen, including the Jedi and Sith.


So in conclusion--he's faster, ergo he reacts faster than most humans, or near-humans, would.

18-Till-I-Die wrote:I think you're all overthinking it.

He reacted faster...because he's fast. Look at him when he fights, he's several times faster and more agile--not to mention a smaller target--than any human we've ever seen, including the Jedi and Sith.


So in conclusion--he's faster, ergo he reacts faster than most humans, or near-humans, would.

I don't think you saw the same movies as I did. If he was several times faster and more agile than any human we've seen, Count Dooku and Palpatine wouldn't both have been able to fight him to a standstill. He felt them coming, they didn't take him seriously as a combatant.

Terralthra wrote:

18-Till-I-Die wrote:I think you're all overthinking it.

He reacted faster...because he's fast. Look at him when he fights, he's several times faster and more agile--not to mention a smaller target--than any human we've ever seen, including the Jedi and Sith.


So in conclusion--he's faster, ergo he reacts faster than most humans, or near-humans, would.

I don't think you saw the same movies as I did. If he was several times faster and more agile than any human we've seen, Count Dooku and Palpatine wouldn't both have been able to fight him to a standstill. He felt them coming, they didn't take him seriously as a combatant.

Umm...did you see Attack of the Clones? Dooku lost. He saw he was outmatched, tossed the column, and ran while he had the chance.

Molyneux wrote:Umm...did you see Attack of the Clones? Dooku lost. He saw he was outmatched, tossed the column, and ran while he had the chance.

I'm sorry, what definition of "lost" are you using? Dooku's goal from 20 minutes before the lightsabre duel started was "escape, with the Death Star plans." Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Yoda's goals were identical: prevent Dooku from escaping.

What ended up happening? Dooku escaped, with the Death Star Plans. Who lost, again?

Yoda knew something was terribly wrong , he felt all those other Jedi die - he was in a alerted state when the troopers tried to kill him, the other Jedi never had that kind of warning.

Kind of odd that Palpatine didn't make sure Yoda was the first target by the way.

From the movie it looks like the order emanates out from Coruscant, taking time for it to reach the Wookie homeworld, enough time for Yoda to be forewarned by the deaths he felt through the Force

Darth Nostril wrote:From the movie it looks like the order emanates out from Coruscant, taking time for it to reach the Wookie homeworld, enough time for Yoda to be forewarned by the deaths he felt through the Force

No, that doesn't appear to be the case as we see the Jedi communicate in 'real-time' between Coruscant and Kashyyyk (in fact, all communication seems to be 'real-time').

Let's not forget that Yoda felt both the death of Mace Windu and the turning of Anakin, both of wich happened before the order was relayed, so he did have quite a bit of forewarning.

Terralthra wrote:

Molyneux wrote:Umm...did you see Attack of the Clones? Dooku lost. He saw he was outmatched, tossed the column, and ran while he had the chance.

I'm sorry, what definition of "lost" are you using? Dooku's goal from 20 minutes before the lightsabre duel started was "escape, with the Death Star plans." Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Yoda's goals were identical: prevent Dooku from escaping.

What ended up happening? Dooku escaped, with the Death Star Plans. Who lost, again?

Goalpost-moving. Did or did not Dooku manage to fight Yoda to a standstill, as you claimed in your previous post?

Molyneux wrote:Goalpost-moving. Did or did not Dooku manage to fight Yoda to a standstill, as you claimed in your previous post?

By 'to a standstill,' I mean 'to a draw,' which is a very charitable interpretation towards Yoda in both cases. A draw because neither combatant in each case was seriously injured or killed, whereas by the goals each combatant had, Yoda lost both fights.

Terralthra wrote: By 'to a standstill,' I mean 'to a draw,' which is a very charitable interpretation towards Yoda in both cases. A draw because neither combatant in each case was seriously injured or killed, whereas by the goals each combatant had, Yoda lost both fights.

Yeah, well, compared to what Dooku had just done to two young Jedi (Obi-Wan and Anakin), he didn't fare that well aganist Yoda. And also notice that Dooku resorts to crushing the column when Yoda actually tells him that he's done for, thus validating Yoda's assesment that he's the superior fighter.

Also consider that Yoda probably wouldn't want to harm Dooku, just keep him busy until reinforcements arrive to capture him, and that might be why he kept jumping about and, essentially, toying with Dooku.

But, of course, it's all open to interpretation.


Oh, and you can lose the battle, but win the war, that Dooku got away doesn't necessarily mean he won the fight.

LordOskuro wrote: Yeah, well, compared to what Dooku had just done to two young Jedi (Obi-Wan and Anakin), he didn't fare that well aganist Yoda. And also notice that Dooku resorts to crushing the column when Yoda actually tells him that he's done for, thus validating Yoda's assesment that he's the superior fighter.

Also consider that Yoda probably wouldn't want to harm Dooku, just keep him busy until reinforcements arrive to capture him, and that might be why he kept jumping about and, essentially, toying with Dooku.

But, of course, it's all open to interpretation.

Yoda doesn't say Dooku's done for. He says "Fought well, you have, my old padawan." Dooku responds, "This is just the beginning," and crushes the column's base.

Well, to me that seems like saying "you're done for" and the other saying "distraction so I can flee!".