FOG3 wrote:Joe Citizen: You tried to assassinate Palpatine.
Jedi: And if he's not a Sith Lord, how did we fail if we tried such a thing?
Joe Citizen: Uhm... uhm.
The rather blindingly obvious flaw in this argument is that this is exactly the same problem Palpatine faced in ROTS, which the novelization swiftly points out is that Palpatine's
bodyguards intervened. You know, that whole
legion of clone troopers that
destroyed the Jedi Temple and wiped out about a thousand Jedi.
What's he going to do bring in corpses of the Jedi Masters with wounds from his lightsaber, and claim a magic sentient lightsaber defended him?
So only Jedi can use lightsabers? So only lightsabers can cause cauterized wounds? So "Joe Citizen" is going to know what a lightsaber wound looks like? So Palpatine is going to let the public see the Jedi Masters' corpses? So the Jedi are going to be able to present their argument?
The Jedi Order has
nothing after Mace attempted to murder Palpatine. Their numbers are down to a handful, their public image is wrecked, their status is gone, and any ability they may have had to actually present their argument (they don't have one, since they attempted to assassinate
beloved Chancellor Palpaitne on nothing but hearsay) just evaporated.
Without Anakin his cover story is gone.
Anakin was never part of any cover story.
As the novelization of the scene emphasized Sidious entire plan relied upon Anakin siding with him.
Of course it bloody well did. Without him Mace would have
run him through. Palpatine's plan for the last several
years relied on Anakin siding with him, or were you asleep while watching ROTS?
A functioning Seperatist movement means Palpatine can't consolidate power and put a blaster to the head of anyone that dares question him, while playing to various power parties.
Yeah. It's not like Palpatine
controls the Separatists.
Yeah normal guy surviving a surprise assassination attempt by four Jedi Masters by himself is so, so plausible.
Yes, because the
SUPREME CHANCELLOR of the Republic is going to be totally defenseless and exposed to assassination attempts. It's not like he has red guards or clone troopers to protect him.
*snip dialouge*
Except the galactic population hasn't watched ROTS. The Jedi aren't going to be able to present their case because they don't have one. They attempted to assassinate the head of state of the Republic, based on the flimsy excuse that their most emotionally unstable member
thinks he's a Sith Lord, a member of a cult that was supposedly
extinct a thousand years earlier.
Here's how the conversation is really going to go:
Palpatine: The Jedi attempted to kill me.
Jedi: Actually...
*clonetroopers draw their blasters and mow the Jedi down. The Senate bursts into applause*
Furthermore, why the hell would the Separatists out Palpatine? They don't even
know he's Palpatine. Grievous wanted to disembowel Palpatine on the
Invisible Hand, but Dooku stopped him.
Even Padme revealed she had serious doubts about the state of the Republic, and the Revenge of Sith novelization indicates the Republic views the Separtists in general more as misguided then anything else.
And what does that have anything to do with the Jedi's ability to out Palpatine as the mastermind behind the Clone Wars? Furthermore, Senator Amidala was in the obvious
minority. Or did you not notice the "thunderous applause" of the Senate as Palpatine created the Galactic Empire?
You have War Heroes and if I understand the novelizations preceding Revenge of the Sith a reasonable amount of evidence to tie Darth Sidious playing both sides, which Palpatine is not really able to deny he is, if he's playing the assassination card.
What evidence? And even if there were, how can the Jedi possibly prove he's a Sith Lord? They can't force him to shoot lightning out of his fingers.
Think.
Palptaine should by all rights shortly face a Separatist movement engorged by states breaking away, and able to squish his now little Empire like a bug.
Or he can just play both sides off one another like he did for the last
three years, or utterly destroy the Separatists
on a whim, like, you know, he did in ROTS. Wiping out the CIS certainly is not reliant upon having Darth Vader to do it for him. Hell, Palpatine could do it on his own if he even deigned it worth his time.
The Republic side leadership would tend to take charge of the Separtist movement at that point given the unassertiveness of the Confederacies own leadership anyway, and in the process create a much more powerful Alliance to Restore the Republic at that point.
Sure, if any of the bullshit that conclusion is based upon were actually true...