Humanity's Origin in Star Wars

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2002-08-13 02:36pm

I found this question quite interesting. Curtis Saxton seems to believe that Humanity in the Star Wars Universe still originated from Earth in the long distant past, because of the unlikelihood of Humanity evolving twice. It seems as if everything is taken from Humanity's point of view. In a sense, they are the only or one of the few truly "galactic" races in Star Wars; the other races seem to be low in density except on their homeworlds.

Smiling Bandit · Post by **Smiling Bandit** » 2002-08-13 02:45pm

I dunno, we see Twileks everywhere. And I've seen several Dugs It may simply be that humankind breeds faster (

). Also, given the sheer number of species, they would have to cluster together somewhat to be able to find mates. One or two species, like humans, could be spread far and wide, but too many and they start crowding out each other's breeding opportunities.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-08-13 03:13pm

Twileks were probably humans who took a evolutionary turn in a different direction or became mutated.

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-08-13 03:19pm

Hmm, perhaps the Twil'leks and Chiss and Darth Mauls are the descendants of early settlers which were sent out with sleeper ships thousands of years before the invention of hyperdrive.
Correlia and Alderaan were settled that way, so...

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-08-14 01:15am

There are two potential homeworlds for humanity in SW. One is Coruscant, for obvious reasons. The second is Corellia. Note that these are not mutually exclusive. We know that an ancient alien race of immense power constructed the Corellian system. It is possible that they also brought humans there from Coruscant (or even the future Earth), to populate it.

Talon Karrde · Post by **Talon Karrde** » 2002-08-14 01:24am

I would support the Correlian theory. These people theoretically used Centerpoint Station to create a system for themselves. However this doesn't PROVE that these were the first people, but probably the first intelligent people. As for Coruscant, it's possible. It's coordinates are know as the center of the galaxy, but is it really, or was it just designated as this because it was the galaxy's spearhead for business and technology?

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-08-14 03:13pm

Unless humans were taken from Earth to the SW galaxy, I don't see any other way the SW galaxy is connected to Earth. The way the SW galaxy looks in Episode Two is different from the way our galaxy looks now. And it takes billions of years for galaxies to change around like that. I don't think humanity would even look remotely the same if it survived billions of years. We would evolve into something else. Thousands of years I could see. But billions? No way.... So I just don't think it's possible the SW galaxy=our galaxy.

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-08-14 04:29pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Unless humans were taken from Earth to the SW galaxy, I don't see any other way the SW galaxy is connected to Earth. The way the SW galaxy looks in Episode Two is different from the way our galaxy looks now. And it takes billions of years for galaxies to change around like that. I don't think humanity would even look remotely the same if it survived billions of years. We would evolve into something else. Thousands of years I could see. But billions? No way.... So I just don't think it's possible the SW galaxy=our galaxy.

Good point. After all, everyone knows that in billions of years we'll all be a bunch of salamanders with a sudden mutual attraction to Kate Mulgrew

Jack Lain · Post by **Jack Lain** » 2002-08-14 05:32pm

Minor, but interesting.

The aliens from ET are in the Galactic Senate in AOTC. So there is some form of connection between the two galaxies, in terms of crossover.

Humanity in the SW universe is all decended from Drew Barrymore!!!

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-08-14 09:57pm

Jack Lain wrote:Minor, but interesting.

The aliens from ET are in the Galactic Senate in AOTC. So there is some form of connection between the two galaxies, in terms of crossover.

Humanity in the SW universe is all decended from Drew Barrymore!!!

Or we could assume that the ET's are capable of travelling to distant galaxies, as well as planets. Perhaps they are even remnants of the species that built Centerpoint Station and Corellia (though this seems unlikely).

Jack Lain · Post by **Jack Lain** » 2002-08-14 11:46pm

Good point Master.

Then can we assume that ET at some point in time - might have mastered time travel as well as huge distance travel?
It would make sense. And that the ET revisits Earth after the movie and steals Drew and a suitable amount of human males and females to state a genetically diverse population in the SW universe.

So the ET at some future point, visit Earth. The ET story happens. Then they revisit Earth, steal Drew Barrymore and a suitable diverse section of others and take them back in time to the SW universe.

Thus we see the connection, the timeline and the ability - at some point, for SW to enter the ST galaxy and kick Star Trek's ass.

Conjecture? Of course!!! WTF? It's all conjecture. But at least my theory does not require a wormhole temporal anomaly. Ok ok, it does require that the ET have a time travel capable devices or they were the ones who originally discovered the wormhole - or they are species descendants of the race that built Centerpoint station. Or they survived all the stories from SW and eventually found their way to Earth and then went back in time to allow humans to enter the SW era.

But no matter.

Drew Barrymore is still the eve of the SW galaxy. WOW! Have you seen her spreads? I believe it. She is capable of doing this!!!

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-08-14 11:52pm

I though Coruscant became such a huge world because it was the site of a huge battle before the foundation of the Republic and then chosen of its Capital. As a result it got very built up.

Given its considerably different distance from the its Sun vs. Earth, it seems pretty unlikely that Human life would evolve there, if it did indeed evolve within the SW galaxy.

Talon Karrde · Post by **Talon Karrde** » 2002-08-15 12:17am

Sea Skimmer wrote:I though Coruscant became such a huge world because it was the site of a huge battle before the foundation of the Republic and then chosen of its Capital. As a result it got very built up.

Interesting. Hadn't heard that before. You have a source for that?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-08-15 12:24am

Jack Lain wrote:Good point Master.

Then can we assume that ET at some point in time - might have mastered time travel as well as huge distance travel?
It would make sense. And that the ET revisits Earth after the movie and steals Drew and a suitable amount of human males and females to state a genetically diverse population in the SW universe.

So the ET at some future point, visit Earth. The ET story happens. Then they revisit Earth, steal Drew Barrymore and a suitable diverse section of others and take them back in time to the SW universe.

Thus we see the connection, the timeline and the ability - at some point, for SW to enter the ST galaxy and kick Star Trek's ass.

Conjecture? Of course!!! WTF? It's all conjecture. But at least my theory does not require a wormhole temporal anomaly. Ok ok, it does require that the ET have a time travel capable devices or they were the ones who originally discovered the wormhole - or they are species descendants of the race that built Centerpoint station. Or they survived all the stories from SW and eventually found their way to Earth and then went back in time to allow humans to enter the SW era.

But no matter.

Drew Barrymore is still the eve of the SW galaxy. WOW! Have you seen her spreads? I believe it. She is capable of doing this!!!

Drew says, "Luke, I am your great-great-great-great.... grandmother."

"Noooooo...."

Talon Karrde · Post by **Talon Karrde** » 2002-08-15 12:29am

Master of Ossus wrote:
Drew says, "Luke, I am your great-great-great-great.... grandmother."

"Noooooo...."

lol. Then we should make an entirely different movie devoted to her... Return of Berrymore.

The climatic scene would involve Drew destroying Mara Jade and then marrying Luke before she tells him that she is his great-great-great-great grandmother.

That would be even worse than kissing your sister

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-08-15 04:26am

Talon Karrde wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:I though Coruscant became such a huge world because it was the site of a huge battle before the foundation of the Republic and then chosen of its Capital. As a result it got very built up.
Interesting. Hadn't heard that before. You have a source for that?

I screwed up on this. What I was thinking of was this from Star Wars Episode 1 Incredible cross sections locations.

Page-5 "The First foundations of the planet encompassing Galactic City were built on an historical battlefield where three ancient civilizations fought for control over the planet."

No word on weather or not they were all native to Coruscant or from several different systems. The first seems more likely, but the second is quite possible.

Jack Lain · Post by **Jack Lain** » 2002-08-15 11:31am

The climatic scene ...

heheh. I had a slightly different climax in mind Talon, but I guess your scene works also. :)

Lusankya · Post by **Lusankya** » 2002-08-18 09:24am

Or we could assume that the ET's are capable of travelling to distant galaxies, as well as planets. Perhaps they are even remnants of the species that built Centerpoint Station and Corellia (though this seems unlikely).

Well, SW is a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. perhaps ET came here after the SW galaxy mastered intergalactic travel. It's a much simpler theory than all of this time travel nonsense.

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2002-08-18 02:00pm

CenterPoint is the only real source i can think of. But when i was just starting to become a SW fan i remember hearing somewhere, maby my father or uncle said it but i remember somebody tell me there was a rumor that there was a sleeper ship that traveld the cosmos, much like a Star Trek idea.

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2002-08-18 02:01pm

CenterPoint is the only real source i can think of. But when i was just starting to become a SW fan i remember hearing somewhere, maby my father or uncle said it but i remember somebody tell me there was a rumor that there was a sleeper ship that traveld the cosmos, much like a Star Trek idea.

Or maby but unlikley since it states A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far,Far away but could Earth be in some unknown or uncharted space in the SW Universe or will the Vong turn out to be early Humans from Earth?

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-08-18 06:35pm

Or it is possible that we are misunderstanging "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away..." In other words, maybe it means that all of the events of SW happens after humanity found its way to the SW galaxy. The people watching the movies (us) are supposed to be watching their history. So it sort of makes us a part of it all. I like that idea better.

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman · Post by **Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman** » 2002-08-19 04:51am

How about this: maybe the humans in Earth (us) are actually descendands of humans in SW galaxy? Probably, due to some freakish event, we humans on earth has lost all tech and science of our ancestor in SW galaxy and had to start from scratch? (Thus Egypt, Romans, etc).

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-08-19 04:58am

Kreshna Aryaguna Nurzaman wrote:How about this: maybe the humans in Earth (us) are actually descendands of humans in SW galaxy? Probably, due to some freakish event, we humans on earth has lost all tech and science of our ancestor in SW galaxy and had to start from scratch? (Thus Egypt, Romans, etc).

And all of those pesky pre-human fossils are just a neat coincidence, as is the entire fossil record and the biochemical homology we share with the rest of the globe?

No, humans started here. Since SW has no record of its biological origins and the odds against humans evolving separately is negligible, the only logical conclusion is that those humans came from here too.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-08-19 05:14am

OK, let those atlantis / conspiracy theories fly!

jenat-lai · Post by **jenat-lai** » 2002-08-19 06:11am

Just an idea. Who said that Starwars humans are indeed genetically compatible with us? Ok so they look like us, but apart from that, who knows.