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Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-06 10:36am
by Enigma
Are they inside the ISD or mounted on top?

Once again at asvs.us they think that the ISD is badly designed because of their exposed bridge\ launch bay and shield generators.

The guy thinks that the engines in the back are vulnerable too.

I think I can counter most but the shield generator\projectors is where I am stuck at. Help?

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-06 11:05am
by Srelex
Officially, the balls on top are sensor globes.

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-06 12:36pm
by VT-16
Sensor globes with local-area shield projector vanes. Did these wiseguys even see ROTJ? Had the globes been shield generators, why did the shield go down when one of them was still intact?

Because they're not used for shielding. Even Richard Edlund, an ILM animator back in 1983 said as much.

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-06 12:47pm
by Anguirus
The shield generator thing is a standard argument, but I'm really curious how he gets that the ENGINES are vulnerable, or somehow more vulnerable than those of any sci-fi ship.

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-06 04:19pm
by Azron_Stoma
Anguirus wrote:The shield generator thing is a standard argument, but I'm really curious how he gets that the ENGINES are vulnerable, or somehow more vulnerable than those of any sci-fi ship.
My guess is it thinks it's cause there isn't much gun coverage if you get up close to the engines.

Obviously doesn't know about the exhaust.

The shield projectors are located under the hull plating, as per the ICS which routinely shows the projectors just under the hull armour, the generator itself is likely located near the reactor core.

The so called "exposed hangar" is rather amusing too, as is the "vulnerable bridge" even though trek vessels have their bridges just as exposed and their shuttle bays aren't nearly as protected as ISD hangars.

About the only Federation ship design that ISN'T brain damaged is the Defiant.

If they had a ship that combined the design mentality of the Defiant mixed with the additional bits the JJprise has (viewscreen overlaying a window, turreted phasers and hell maybe go further and put torpedo launchers on turrets too). Then they would have a massively improved ship design, and one that would start to more resemble Star Wars vessels :P

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-06 11:36pm
by Enigma
May sound silly but does the ISD have hangar doors or is it exposed with only shielding?

Praeothmin also states that there is an exposed shield generator near the hangar. Any validity with that?

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-07 12:29am
by Enigma
Also what is that dome underneath the ISD, behind the hangar bay?

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-07 01:43am
by Vympel
Enigma wrote:May sound silly but does the ISD have hangar doors or is it exposed with only shielding?

Praeothmin also states that there is an exposed shield generator near the hangar. Any validity with that?
That's fucking garbage. It's the main reactor housing, bulging out from inside the ship. He's probably going from that Gamecube Rogue Squadron game which turns it into a shield generator. Its not true, its a game mechanics contrivance of no validity whatsoever.

Look up the ISD entry on wookiepedia. You can see a cross section of the ISD (from the OT ICS) yourself, last I checked.

The whole "lol exposed shield generator" idiocy is stupid anyway. Even if the globes on top of the bridge tower were shield generators, you still have to bust down the shields to attack them.

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-07 04:07am
by VT-16
The reactor inside the ship at that location can even be seen on old ILM drawings from way back. I think there's an illustration of it in From Star Wars to Indiana Jones.

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-11 07:49pm
by Night_stalker
Yeah, who would put the shield generator where it could be easily targeted by a enemy force? They're probably deep insde the ship, but the reactor placement could just be a last minute adjustment by the engineers without the approval of the admirals, who had them doubtlessly sent to Kessel as punishment for that massive flaw in the design.

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-12 02:27pm
by VT-16
Speaking of designs and concepts, Acme Archives are making a new Specplate for the Imperator II. Yes, they actually call it that in the class name. 8)

There's some close-ups in the promo gallery, some nice dedications and specs. I can't make heads-or-tails of the shield coverage, though. Is it the projector vanes scattered around the ship itself or just the vanes on the globes?

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-12 03:55pm
by fractalsponge1
Probably relatively meaningless graphics for that part. Also keep in mind the detail wireframe is not really the studio ISDII, it's mine :).

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-12 04:07pm
by Force Lord
fractalsponge1 wrote:Probably relatively meaningless graphics for that part. Also keep in mind the detail wireframe is not really the studio ISDII, it's mine :).
Again? :? I thought they would have bothered to check the maker of the wireframe.

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-12 04:16pm
by fractalsponge1
No, no, this one I did for them :) Just wanted to prevent people from trying to interpret it as the studio model.

Re: Shield projectors\generators locations on an ISD.

Posted: 2010-05-12 04:55pm
by VT-16
Wow, kudos! :D