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How could the Galaxy better deal with the Yuuzhun Vong invasion while still having a New Republic government?

I've been thinking of writing a "reimagined" Star Wars saga and it's post Battle of Yavin events go something like this: A large Imperial fleet at Yavin defects to the Rebel Alliance under a Grand Admiral whose strategy wise roughly equal to Thrawn. But in exchange for defecting he demands a truly reformed Republic government combining the best of the Imperial and Old Republic ideas. The Rebel Alliance is forced to agree. A few years later Palpatine gets killed by the reedeemed Anakin Skywalker causing the Empire to break up. The New Republic manages to roll up the enemy somewhat faster than in the real Star Wars partially due to large-scale defections of Imperial forces and partially due to a more militarized, centralized New Republic. The Empire surrenders completely under Pellaeon but most of it's forces are incorporated into the New Republic military. The New Republic also gets a few warnings and manages to arrest and execute Yuuzhun Vong infiltrators. Thanks to the warning the Galaxy really prepares for all-out war roughly similar to the American war economy during World War II: building millions of starships, conscripting quadrillions of sentinents, constructing quadrillions of droids, and building dozens of superweapons.

General Mung Beans wrote:-snip-

Instead of that convoluted (Palpatine would've had either Jade or Vader personally kill this rogue Grand Admiral) and completely unpredictable scenario (Pellaeon only became Grand Admiral by coasting off of Thrawn so he wouldn't have the authority to issue a surrender on behalf of the Empire as other Grand Admirals and Moffs still exist since your Thrawn stand-in would nullify Thrawn's threat), why not just have Admiral Betl Oxtroe succeed in convince the New Republic to establish Palpatine's grand-niece as the Empress of a constitutional monarchy rather than being assassinated by Noghri assassins? She's too young to wield power and thus the New Republic's provisional council would still largely be in control, but you avoid the fallout and destruction of major resources by warring Imperial factions in the aftermath of Palpatine's death.

Another way to structure the New Republic better is to simply scrap the concept of a Senate all together. Instead, the NR merely acts as a body which provides military and economic support to member worlds who request it, as well as serve as a galactic court of last resort to resolve disputes as necessary. In return, the member worlds in return pay a subscription, abide to a anti-Imperial declaration of basic rights, and et cetera. Such a system in theory would solve the problem of trashing an easily-corruptable Senate while also making it impossible for one central power to screw over the galaxy like the Galactic Empire. Of course, the cost of this arrangement would be the inability of a central government to dictate any sort of galactic policy, but one can argue that no one government can really effectively rule the entire galaxy anyway..... at least not without help from Jedi.

Yeah, that sounds like it could work.

Because the fact that the Vong caught the New Republic by surprise is what was wrong with that series of novels, not the fact that the concept of an extragalactic invasion was not executed properly, no sir.

Darth Fanboy wrote:Because the fact that the Vong caught the New Republic by surprise is what was wrong with that series of novels, not the fact that the concept of an extragalactic invasion was not executed properly, no sir.

Except that's not the topic, Fanboy, the topic was how would the war have went if the New Republic acted competently.

I haven't read most of the New Jedi Order books, so I'm basing this on second-hand information (largely on what I've read on these forums), but as far as I can see there's really only two things they need to do: build a lot of star dreadnoughts, and use them.

I concur: as far I know, two star dreadnought (the Guardian, of Executor class, and the Viscount, the first 'star defender' of his class) and an heavy star cruiser, had fought a BIG Yuuzhan Vong fleet to a standstill alone. I tried to imagine if the NR had a dozen of those things, and the picture looks very bad for the Vong.

General Schatten wrote: Except that's not the topic, Fanboy, the topic was how would the war have went if the New Republic acted competently.

Point? I'm not trying to start a debate with anyone and the idea of a "Competent Galactic Government vs. Vong" scenario has been done and rehashed before and it always stems from people who read the NJO and would have rather read a dozen novels about the Vong flying into a meatgrinder and not doing anything bad to the galaxy. If I want to read a pile of one sided wankery that started out interesting but quickly got old I'll go read...never mind.

Still, not as far off topic as my original post where I ask Mung Bean what in the fuck would posess him to rewrite the Original Trilogy of Star Wars so that he could set up the fanwank scenario of Militarized Uber Competent Good Guy Galaxy vs. Yuuzhan Vong.

My direct response to the OP would be that if you want to know how a competent government would have dealt with the Vong, just look at the Galactic Alliance. The Galactic Alliance reclaimed the galaxy and had defeated the Vong in roughly a year after the New Republic and other governments restructured into one.

Darth Fanboy wrote: My direct response to the OP would be that if you want to know how a competent government would have dealt with the Vong, just look at the Galactic Alliance. The Galactic Alliance reclaimed the galaxy and had defeated the Vong in roughly a year after the New Republic and other governments restructured into one.

The Galactic Alliance also benefited from multiple years of war mobilisation and extensive casualties inflicted by the previous New Republic government.

When bashing the New Republic, everybody needs to understand that this is a fledging government that's only a few decades old.

PainRack wrote: The Galactic Alliance also benefited from multiple years of war mobilisation and extensive casualties inflicted by the previous New Republic government.

But the previous government was so incompetent! They didn't do anything* right ever.

When bashing the New Republic, everybody needs to understand that this is a fledging government that's only a few decades old.

No excuses, they should have been arming to the teeth. Don't those poor fools in the SW Galaxy know they are in Star WARS and should thus be mobilizing for conflict at all times just in case?


*-I thought it was ridiculous for the writers to go through the process of completely rebranding the New Republic into the Galactic Alliance. I didn't see the point at all, and I think that is where a lot of this "NEW REPUBLIC SO LAME" stuff comes from, because once the government was renamed THAT was when the tide turned.

Darth Fanboy wrote:Point?

My point is it's irrelevant to the question.

If I want to read a pile of one sided wankery that started out interesting but quickly got old I'll go read...never mind.

Oh... Sod off, Baldrick!