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What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-11-16 06:56am
by FaxModem1
Right in the middle of the Senate meeting during The Phantom Menace, every human in the galaxy has a heart attack, no human, anywhere, jedi, sith, or not, survives. How does the SW galaxy react to being completely human-less?

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-11-16 09:57am
by Eternal_Freedom
I'd imagine it would take them a while to realise it was everyone. In the short term, chaos ensues as the Supreme chancellor and a reasonable portion of the Senate is suddenly dead. Planets like Corellia and Kuat might be almsot completely depopulated. The Trade Federation rrealises it no longer needs to occupy Naboo as there's no one left to occupy, except the gungans wh were hiding anyway

The Jedi order survives, minus some important people. Darth Maul realises he's all alone and hasn't a fucking clue what to do, and mos tlikely gives into his rage over his master's death and goes on an enormous killing spree until Yoda hunts him down and kills him

Basically, it's an intial clusterfuck of galactic proportions, but the galaxy eventually learns to get along without humans, never realising how lucky they are to avoid the Jedi Purge and the Galactic Civil War, and the reign of the Empire

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-11-16 10:27am
by Patroklos
I don't think it has ever been properly quantified, but humans make up a significant portion of the population of the galaxy. They are by far the most common at least. I imagine the instantaneous loss of just the numbers of beings alone would through the galaxy into an apocalyptic spiral of decay. If you factor in that humans make up a disproportionate number leaders in pretty much ever field depicted in SW that just makes it worse.

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-11-16 04:19pm
by Adam Reynolds
Does this include near-humans? If this is the case, then Maul would also be killed as well.

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-11-16 05:08pm
by Eternal_Freedom
That's something I never got about SW. does "near-human" equate to "humanoid?" Or does it apply to races that in Str Trek style simply look bloody similiar with the odd random facial appendage?

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-11-16 05:58pm
by Talhe
That's something I never got about SW. does "near-human" equate to "humanoid?" Or does it apply to races that in Str Trek style simply look bloody similiar with the odd random facial appendage?
Near-Humans seem to be humans who have strayed away from baseline humanity, usually genetically (although Lorrdians are qualified as Near-Human due to cultural differences). Hapans are Near-Human due to millenium of having a limited genetic pool and their environment, and the Chiss are probably descended from humanity as well.

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-11-17 09:47am
by TOSDOC
I wonder what the Kaminoan congressional hearings would look like when they suddenly found all of their clones dead for no apparent reason.

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-11-17 10:48am
by Broken
Going from memory, but the rpg materials state that humans are the most populous sentient species in the Star Wars Galaxy. Take them all out in an instant and you end up with mass-galactic chaos; entire worlds/governments decimated, economic implosion across Known Space as supply/demand/production chains are utterly smashed, aggressive/opportunistic species get tons of free materials from abandoned planetary defense fleets like Kuat's and whole star systems are up for grabs with intact infrastructures.

However, those are just the physical effects. The psychological results could be even more devastating. Something just reached in and stuffed out a significant chuck of the galactic population in an instant, simultaneously across thousands of light years and millions of locations. If scientists or the Jedi do not quickly come out and explain the cause of this mass extinction (if they even have a clue), then the result would be wide-spread paranoia on a scale we can't even imagine. New cults/religions to explain/defend against/appease the cause of the mass death would spring up everywhere to fill the voids left by any "official" answers. Massive spending on defenses (even if they didn't help the humans, it generally makes people feel better if they are well-protected and its a nice distraction) and research into the death and how to prevent it from occurring to the remaining species.

Lost in the rush of events and without Sidious to direct them, I would imagine the Trade Federation never gets its Confederacy formed and gets caught up in the wave of protection spending. Especially with the galactic economy being smashed to rubble, I would think any plans of conquest go right out the window since their shadowy backer suddenly is not responding.

So there you have it. A galaxy of fearful, (soon to be) heavily armed, and newly religious species in a relatively short-lived resource rush. If some sort of popular figure can emerge to take the helm of the Republic you could probably avoid full-scale galactic war, but "minor" wars would be common in the process of grabbing up all the choice human domains. Hopefully without Sidious, the remaining Jedi would be enough to keep the peace largely in place, especially if Maul gets himself killed early on in the chaos.

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-11-22 01:21pm
by dworkin
After the initial shock the Republic gradually enters an unprecedented era of peace and prosperity since there are no longer those damn humans causing trouble any more. Eventually humans enter folklore as bogeymen who lurk under the sleep-unit.

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-11-22 07:21pm
by DudeGuyMan
Broken wrote:The psychological results could be even more devastating. Something just reached in and stuffed out a significant chuck of the galactic population in an instant, simultaneously across thousands of light years and millions of locations.
I liked this post. You don't usually see enough anaylsis of what sort of psychological effect these massive thread-starting random acts of RAR would have on people.

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-11-22 07:28pm
by Eternal_Freedom
If I wasn't a human in this situation, I'd be utterly shitting myself

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-12-02 11:53am
by Molyneux
This thread and its cousin have actually started me wondering - what really are the population levels across the galaxy?

Humans appear to be one of the very few races in Star Wars without a specific homeworld; there may be a bunch of primarily human-populated worlds, but they seem to be significantly outnumbered by worlds that are home to at least one native sentient species, and also have a human population - look at the Mon Calamari homeworld, at Tattooine, etc. I wouldn't be very surprised if humans are a minority on most planets with a human population - but simply because they are so very widely spread, they come out to a tidy majority in overall galactic population. Large, but diffuse, rather than concentrated like many other species are.

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-12-02 08:38pm
by Havok
The other sapient species in the Galaxy get a lot richer. They also, from what we see in the movies, lose pretty much all their military and governing man power.

Re: What would the Galaxy be like without humans?(RAR?)

Posted: 2010-12-03 06:15pm
by Rossum
The paranoia would get even worse if the genocide affected even humans who don't have organic hearts. I'm sure that there are plenty of humans with mechanical hearts in the SW galaxy (unless they use cloned tissue or medicine for heart problems). Plus there are those droids that have an organic brain connected to them. If even the cybernetic humans and human brains were killed in this then you can officially call it an Act of God or whatever. Some might initially think it was a disease or bizarre genetic thing but if all humans were wiped out regardless of cybernetics or whatever protection then its going to be hard to get any reasonable answer ofr the cause.

I suspect that the second or third most populous/influentaial races would try to step up to fill the void left by the humans. Humans seem to fill a niche in the SW galaxy where they are populous and widespread enough that they can easily communicate with eachother and allow for easier diplomacy. Since humans are so widespread then they were able to standardize uniforms and equipment around themselves, more humanoid races could fit the standard better then less humanoid races. With actual humans gone then the human standard of design could get thrown out the window.

I mean, in a galaxy with thousands of different species and a wide range of body types then the human standard was able to work because there are alot of humans and species that are about human size, can handle human tools, and breath human comfortable atmosphere. Sure, some species are bigger or smaller or have different body types and breath or eat different stuff but they know that most stuff is made for humans and can compensate for it by getting breathing apperatuses or custom-built tools for themselves. With humans gone then it might make just as much sense for companies to build things that are more comfortable for their native races. Building standards might change for a bit until a new standard of design becomes popular and everyone just adapts to that.

Or maybe they would stick with the human designs and aesthetics out of habit at first and later supply and demand would alter stuff to better suit the remaining species or whoever the next major race becomes.

Though its no guarantee that another race will step up where the humans left off, some might suspect that the Human Killer hit them because they were the major species and is waiting to take out the next one. Maybe it would result in a coalition of the next most populous/influential races kind of running the new galactic government and the design standards would change to accomodate those three or so species as best as possible.

Anyway, I'm just saying that space ships would likely look different after the genocide.


Oh, I don't suppose droids would start acting any different, would they? I assume that droids are mostly programmed to obey any organic race without regards of them being human or not. If there are droids programmed to obey humans over other beings then the sudden loss of humans could mess with droid brains/programming. Or if there are various groups of droids who have fought for freedom then the sudden loss of the humans and resulting destabalization could allow the droids to rise to power.

And on that note, the Trade Federation has an army of droids and the republic apparently had to clone a huge number of humans for soldiers. Without a clone army to oppose the TF then they could conceivably become a major player in the galaxy... assuming the genocide doesn't make them stop. On the one hand they seemed to have started the thing because Sideious told them to, but with Sideous dead then they have no reason to follow that.

However, if the genocide happens conveniently during the meeting on the senate then some crackpots might assume that it has something to do with the genocide (although there could be a billion other possible reasons including the mass clone army being made). If the all the humans die and the Trade Federation conveniently has a huge army of droids on hand then people might think they had somethign to do with it which could get really awkward for them.

As for the Jedi and the force itself, if the destruction of Alderan made Obi-Wan feel "as if a million souls cried out in pain and were silenced" then I'm thinking the surviving jedi are going to really feel this biggie. Plus, Anakin Skywalker is dead along with queen Amidala so expect any prophesies regarding brinign balance to the force to be knocked for a loop. And that saying nothing about the death of Darth Sideious and whatever other human sith might be hidden wherever (actually, would this genocide also have any effect on the force ghosts?).

So the force itself is probably going to be affected by this in some way which is going to worry the remaining Jedi. Assuming the force is an active entity thing and not just a passive energy field then expect something weird to come up... like another Chosen One appears to somehow restore balance, or the Jedi start getting visions about stuff. If The Force is active and has its own motives (whatever they are) then something is going to happen along that avenue.