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This is basically the inverse of 'nothing but aliens' thread. During the Senate scene of Star Wars: The Phantom Menace, every single alien in the galaxy(not including farm animals or non-sentient species) dies of a heart attack or its equivalent of one. What happens now?

FaxModem1 wrote:This is basically the inverse of 'nothing but aliens' thread. During the Senate scene of Star Wars: The Phantom Menace, every single alien in the galaxy(not including farm animals or non-sentient species) dies of a heart attack or its equivalent of one. What happens now?

This is the equivalent of an act of God that probably wipes out a solid majority of the galactic population. So, no matter what other stuff happens, many bricks will be shat.

Palpatine's mid term plans are as good as void now, so he needs an alternative. Not sure of whether he would try to shore up the Republic against the incoming chaos or nudge it over the edge.

Entire planets are completely depopulated. One thing that occurs to me is that, while humans appear to comprise a majority of the galactic population, there are very few (if any) human-only worlds; I don't believe we've ever seen a planet on-screen with a solely human population, while there are quite a few planets with a vast majority of aliens.

I'd say, even more than the "all humans die" result, this ends up in a clusterfuck of galaxy-spanning proportions. I give it about two days before people start talking about some kind of humans-first terrorist plot, and start looking for scapegoats.

I'd say that this isn't as bad, because the major industries, such as Kuat Drive Yards and Sienar Systems are human dominated, and will be able to function afterwords, especially since the majority of shipyard worlds (Correlia, Kuat, Fondor, to name a few) are at least 90% human.

I'm sure Duro and Mon Calamari will be missed, but those aren't as influential as the previously mentioned worlds.

What I think would be interesting in both scenarios is what of the near-human races such as the Chiss? Many of them descend from the baseline human, what happens to them?

Imperial528 wrote:I'd say that this isn't as bad, because the major industries, such as Kuat Drive Yards and Sienar Systems are human dominated, and will be able to function afterwords, especially since the majority of shipyard worlds (Correlia, Kuat, Fondor, to name a few) are at least 90% human.

I'm sure Duro and Mon Calamari will be missed, but those aren't as influential as the previously mentioned worlds.

What I think would be interesting in both scenarios is what of the near-human races such as the Chiss? Many of them descend from the baseline human, what happens to them?

All the Hutts are gone.
Every non-human in their crime syndicates? Gone. The vast majority of galactic government structure? Gone or crippled. Remember all those non-human Senators, and their worlds?

As with the all humans die thread, its basically the same result with different players and slightly different tastes. Utter economic chaos, populations in mass panic with new cults and beliefs springing up overnight, government in a frenzy and likely paralyzed except for Palpatine (and even he would likely be in shock from the failure to foresee this event), and a fantastic resource rush for all those lovely star systems with nothing but droids in caretaker mode to oppose you. While Star Wars tries somewhat to avoid the brainbug of issuing each non-human species one and only one culture except for humans; all that changes in this instance is instead of species lines being the divider, its down to nationalism (Kaut claims this star systems formerly know as Mon Calamari, no Correlia claims this system) since most humans seem to consider their homeworld as their touchstone rather than membership in the human species.

Palpatine has got to be pulling his hair out over this. All those carefully laid plans, the allies and dupes he lined up, the effort and time invested in his masterplan; all gone now, totally wasted. His triggermen and fall guys are gone and likely all the backup plans relied heavily on non-humans (who Palpatine has shown a preference for using as pawns to be used and sacrificed) who all died in the mass death. There is simply no way to know if Palpatine can salvage anything/enough of his plans to eventually become Emperor or if Darth Sidious becomes an interesting lesson/footnote in some grand history of the Sith Order.

One thing I forgot to mention in the humans die thread is the effect on the Jedi/Sith. While in either case a large number of the Jedi die, the implications of the deaths are even grander. There was no warning. Many Force abilities depend heavily on precognition but this, easily the biggest, most devastating event in Galactic History occurred with NO WARNING from the Force. Even with Sidious' Shroud of the Darkside, the Jedi knew their powers were weakened, that they were being actively interfered with. But with this event, the Jedi/Sith suddenly discover not only does their understanding/ability to use the Force have blindspots, it has blindspots large enough to murder countless billions with not even a ripple of the possibility coming to them. That is going to cause a lot of confusion and fear in the Jedi and even Darth Sidious is going to realize that he has something totally new to deal with, something he has no defenses against. The Jedi Order will be split between trying desperately to keep the peace, figuring out if the Sith really are still around (they have already heard about Darth Maul from Qui-Gon Jinn) and plunging headlong into new avenues of research and study of the Force to try and understand what the hell just happened and how they missed it. This would even be a clever way for a writer to create a second Jedi Schism as no doubt many of these paths could lead one too close to the Dark Side and some would, with the best of intentions, walk that path in their desperation.

Where in the senate-scene? Before or after they oust Valorum?

In the first case Palpatine has to re-arrange his plans (massively). In the second he might become Chancellor and get his emergency-powers a lot sooner (to prevent the remaining members of the GR from fighting each other over the "spoils of the great tragedy"). An already weakened Jedi-Order could be grinded to dust over the following years and the rest might be left to Bounty-Hunters and the assassins of various intelligence-services.

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Imperial528 wrote:I'd say that this isn't as bad, because the major industries, such as Kuat Drive Yards and Sienar Systems are human dominated, and will be able to function afterwords, especially since the majority of shipyard worlds (Correlia, Kuat, Fondor, to name a few) are at least 90% human.

I'm sure Duro and Mon Calamari will be missed, but those aren't as influential as the previously mentioned worlds.

What I think would be interesting in both scenarios is what of the near-human races such as the Chiss? Many of them descend from the baseline human, what happens to them?

All the Hutts are gone.
Every non-human in their crime syndicates? Gone. The vast majority of galactic government structure? Gone or crippled. Remember all those non-human Senators, and their worlds?

Oh yes, galactic government would be in utter chaos, I fully acknowledge that. And I'm sure that the galactic economy would plummet due to the collapse of the Intergalactic Bank. What I was saying is that unlike if all humans died, many self-supporting industry worlds would be shaken but unharmed.

Coruscant, on the other hand, would need to dig into its supplies, since IIRC, many of the agri worlds are operated mostly by non-humans.

Missed the edit window.

What I am basically trying to say is that while galactic civilization as a whole would be royally fucked, recovery wouldn't be as hard as it would in the other scenario, because the major manufacturing worlds and many core worlds would still exist and are capable of defending themselves, which would likely make them prime candidates for restoring order once the shit has hit the fan.

While a human only civilization built on the remains of the galaxy at large may well survive in a slightly more organized fashion than the humans die scenario that ignores one very large factor. In the humans survive galaxy, the Sith Order was not decapitated leaving Palpatine alive to train a new apprentice and plot anew while many Jedi, especially Yoda and other non-humans on the Jedi Council are dead. On the other hand, Anakin Skywalker may well have not been brought to the attention of Palpatine yet and Qui-Gon Jinn will not die at the hands of Darth Maul on Naboo. Thus raising the possibility of Anakin fulfilling his destiny without the entire Jedi Order as collateral damage.

Palpatine's plans would surely be set back, though, since the forces he was manipulating were mostly aliens. Although, it does open up the opportunity for him to be the hero who "kept the Republic alive" through all of the chaos, and thus climb to his position that way.

Imperial528 wrote:Palpatine's plans would surely be set back, though, since the forces he was manipulating were mostly aliens. Although, it does open up the opportunity for him to be the hero who "kept the Republic alive" through all of the chaos, and thus climb to his position that way.

That might well be beyond Palpatine's abilities, though.
Keep in mind that a large fraction of the Republic appears to consist of alien-dominated worlds - at least, a vast, vast majority of the delegates appeared to be nonhuman. That implies that we're going to have hundreds or even thousands of worlds where a majority of their population goes "poof" - that means most of the people who know how to manage the agriculture droids, who know how to keep the water running and the heat going. Anyone without a starship on those worlds is going to be in for a hard few years at the very least.

I just thought of something that hasn't been addressed in either topic, what happens to all the bodies? You will have trillions(at the least) of alien bodies that have collapsed wherever they were standing. What's that going to do to Galactic health?

Think of what it will do to the morale. Especially on Coruscant.

FaxModem1 wrote:I just thought of something that hasn't been addressed in either topic, what happens to all the bodies? You will have trillions(at the least) of alien bodies that have collapsed wherever they were standing. What's that going to do to Galactic health?

Obviously, the only viable solution to this problem is ZOMBIES!

On Coruscant at least, the smell will be awful, even if they come up with a mass remation or zombies scheme right away. But I would imagine the surviving Senate are too busy shitting themselves and Sidious is kicking himself in the head for not foreseeing this, and for Maul dying, which screws him over

I agree with the part about Qui Gon Jinn training Anakin instead, making it much less likely he will fall. Especially as without Yoda molding the Order, Windu will be able to forge his own path. While he might have objected to training Anakin, I think the sudden losses would lead to a "we'll train anyone we can get right now" approach

"Ever since the Twi'leki went extinct life just hasn't been worth living."

But yeah, things would seriously go wrong.

Actually, if the non-humans went extinct at this point then the Clone Army would never come about? Anakin is just a little boy in Phantom Menace and has aged quite a bit by the time Attack of the Clones starts, so I'm guessing that the clone army hasn't been started before the Galactic Rapture wipes out the race that ran the cloning operation. That means that the Republic would have to scrounge up a military basically from scratch at this point and Palpatines big schedule would be completely out the window.

Creating a galactic military to control the place would either require mass recruiting from the human population or build a droid army (or a combination of the two). The trade federation was staffed by nonhumans who are all dead... so either the battle droid tech is lost or its up for grabs for whichever human group can get access to it.

All the ships piloted by aliens at the time would probably be flying around without anyone driving them (except maybe the astromech droids or computers). There's gotta be some kind of disaster waiting to happen with that many ships suddenly losing their pilots at the same time.

Also, the Star Wars galaxy has cloning technology and certain Dark side force powers can create life (I think). Would it be possible to bring some of those alien species back to life through cloning or force powers? Granted their numbers would be dismally small compared to pre-genocide but with the right technology then the species wouldn't be irrevocably lost. But then again if the genocide effect remains in effect and thus prevents all attempts at cloning, force resurrection, or force ghosts from working then expect alot of force users and scientists to be repeatedly shitting themselves.

"Every single strand of Twi'leki DNA in the galaxy disintegrated at that same moment... science won't bring them back, the dark side of the force won't bring them back... DAMMIT! *sobs uncontrollably*"

Then in the chaos, any droids with desires for freedom would probably have a chance to make their mark. Effectivly the sapient population of the galaxy has been reduced to just humans and droids. I think droids outnumbered organic beings pre-genocide and would outnumber the remaining humans all the moreso. With massive numbers of industrialized worlds suddenly depopulated then the droids would be the ones keeping things running... and droids need regular memory wipes to avoid developing personalities which means that unless the humans take quick action to keep all the droids in line then alot of them will start developing personalities.

Plus, droids aren't that susceptible to the force, are they? If large numbers of droids start gaining self-awareness and breaking their programming then Darth Sidious isn't going to be particularly good at manipulating them, is he?


So, I'm figuring that Anakin would be trained at least decently by Qui Gon and a restructured Jedi Order, Darth Sideous is either going to get into power somehow or is going to go completely insane as the Fist of God punches through all his carefully laid plans and shatters all faith in anything. The galactic population now consists of only humans and droids, droids probably outnumber humans 100 to 1 (at the very least) and likely won't be as distraught from the mass death. Hell, the cleaning droids would probably venture out into the streets to pick up the dead bodies while all the humans curl up into balls and weep any time they dare to look outside. Survivors guilt would probably result in a good number of suicides on the part of humans while the droids would just go about their business (okay, I'm sure alot of droids would start freaking out as well but I don't know if they have quite the same level of despair that humans might run into. I'm sure the majority of post-genocide droid freakouts would be the result of safety protocols shutting them down and a little help from a maintenance droid would put them back on their feet).

I don't know if Palpatine would take this apocalyptic event as a sign that he should start helping the jedi order or not. I mean, I'm sure that the Sith have all sorts of hatred for the Jedi, but when the Fist of God crushes 99% of everything you know and love along with 99% of what your enemy knows and loves then there is the slight chance that you might try teaming up with your former enemy to figure out just what the hell happened. The fact that Yoda and all the other long-lived alien Jedi are dead would probably wash away some of the differences.