StarDestroyer.Net BBS

FORGET Death Stars and the dark side - the biggest threat in the Star Wars universe is, apparently, homosexuality.

US Christian group the Family Research Council has hit out at the developers of video game Star Wars: The Old Republic for allowing game characters to have same-sex relationships.

Bioware has recently published a same-sex romance component update for the multiplayer online game after receiving complaints from gamers.

The decision has caused outrage after BioWare said in 2009 that “gay” and “lesbian” don't exist in the Star Wars universe.

Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council in Washington said Star Wars gamers have “already gone to the dark side”.

“In a new Star Wars game, the biggest threat to the empire may be homosexual activists!” Mr Perkins wrote on the organisations website.

“Since the announcement, homosexuals have been celebrating the news, but parents sure aren't. Their kids will be exposed to this Star Warped way of thinking.

“You can join them by logging on and speaking up. It's time to show companies who the Force is really with!”

Many gamers posted on the Star Wars: The Old Republic that they welcome the new update.

“Bioware has a long history of having romance-able companions for both heterosexual and homosexual preferences, and there is absolutely no reason for them to not do the same here,” a gamer using the character Auricelia wrote.

Gamer Voiicu said: "If I want to be gay on one toon and straight on another then thats my prerogative. There never should have been a discrimination between the two in the first place."

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/gamin ... z1lhKwhczc

Darth Tedious wrote:But really? Imaginary peoples in a Galaxy Far, Far Away (who are inevitably going to hell for being godless space wizards anyway) aren't allowed to be gay?

Grumman wrote:

Darth Tedious wrote:But really? Imaginary peoples in a Galaxy Far, Far Away (who are inevitably going to hell for being godless space wizards anyway) aren't allowed to be gay?

That seems pretty close to canon, unfortunately. The only examples I can think of are Juhani and a couple that were one of Travis's attempts to show how enlightened her Mandalores were.

"criminal sanctions against homosexual behavior" should be enforced

dworkin wrote:Showing love, compassion and forgiveness seems like such a strange idea. If only their holy book commanded them to do so.

Batman wrote:Ignoring parts of it is the only way to follow the bible because the thing is self-contradictory as hell. You simply can't obey it in its entirety because that would require you following mutually exclusive commandments. Unsurprisingly, people over time decided to pick and choose the parts they liked and sort of ignore the rest. Welcome to the human race.

Darth Tedious wrote:I wouldn't even think canon is much of an issue here- MMO PC's are non-canon characters anyway, aren't they?

General Schatten wrote:

Darth Tedious wrote:I wouldn't even think canon is much of an issue here- MMO PC's are non-canon characters anyway, aren't they?

TOR isn't like other MMOs, in this respect. In other MMOs each player is their own different character, in TOR every player is playing the story of a single character. It's a lot like KotOR, there's a lot of different Revans created by the players, but only the story played as a male totally lightsided and romanced Bastilla is canon. So while you can play a darkside Jedi Knight, your personal playthrough is not going to be the playthrough that is considered the canon one. As such there's unlikely to be a canon gay Jedi in TOR, since romance is frowned upon in Jedi in TOR.

Darth Tedious wrote: Given that romantic options would be up to the individual player (I assume), no particular romance (unless it is an integral part of the story) could really be canon- be it gay, straight or otherwise?

General Schatten wrote:Frankly the only likely romance I can think of is the Sith Warrior.

Lord Revan wrote:that being "half done" so to speak thanks to Darth Malgus and that blue skinned twi'lek in the revenge trailer (the twi'lek being his lover or wife it's not quite clear but she's been called both).

General Schatten wrote:

Lord Revan wrote:that being "half done" so to speak thanks to Darth Malgus and that blue skinned twi'lek in the revenge trailer (the twi'lek being his lover or wife it's not quite clear but she's been called both).

No, Malgus is a separate character from the Sith Warrior you play as you interact with Malgus quite a few times as you level. I'm talking about Jaesa Willsaam. The Sith Warrior's class story doesn't hold up as well if you play it 100% lightside and Vette's not very happy when you go about killing people on a whim. On the other hand the first half of the first act involves gathering intelligence on Jaesa, the second half drawing her out, and the finale of the first act is you tempting her over to the dark side.

Lord Revan wrote:

General Schatten wrote:

Lord Revan wrote:that being "half done" so to speak thanks to Darth Malgus and that blue skinned twi'lek in the revenge trailer (the twi'lek being his lover or wife it's not quite clear but she's been called both).

No, Malgus is a separate character from the Sith Warrior you play as you interact with Malgus quite a few times as you level. I'm talking about Jaesa Willsaam. The Sith Warrior's class story doesn't hold up as well if you play it 100% lightside and Vette's not very happy when you go about killing people on a whim. On the other hand the first half of the first act involves gathering intelligence on Jaesa, the second half drawing her out, and the finale of the first act is you tempting her over to the dark side.

I know Darth Malgus is a different character, but his relation with that twi'lek (Elena was her name I think) seems to suggest, a warrior/vette romance isn't impossible and tbh I've not had major problems with Vette's affection so far and I'm mostly darkside (I've picked 1 or 2 lightside options but that's it) but knowing to pick the options Vette likes when there's no light/dark points and gifts help, granted I've gotten only to early chapter 1 on my warrior (my main being my Inquisitor).

edaw1982 wrote:It seems to be that interspecies loving is fine and dandy so long as it's between man and woman, but man-man/woman-woman love is bad...well woman-woman love is slightly less bad than man-man love because *everyone* loves lesbians.

Cowl wrote:Why would there even be gay Jedi though? Don't Jedi allegedly 'forswear all emotional attachments'? And would this even be an equal rights issue for this futuristic universe? Their medical technology must have advanced to the point where you'll be able to switch your sexual orientation with the flick of a switch. Advanced pre-screening at birth to allow for modification of any aberrant qualities of this nature.