Stories/themes you hope to see in SW sequels trilogy
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Stories/themes you hope to see in SW sequels trilogy
Given that the EU is going to be ignored outright for the upcoming sequel trilogy, this will give Abrams and company a large amount of room to explore Star Wars. Given that this film is most likely to be set 30-40 years after Return of the Jedi judging by the rumors, what kind of stories do you want see in the upcoming films?
Do you want more stories centred on Luke, Han and Leia? If not, how would want handle the passing of the torch to the next generation?
Do you want more stories centred on Luke, Han and Leia? If not, how would want handle the passing of the torch to the next generation?
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I just want to see Luke in a largely offscreen spiritual journey as he reflects on the failures of the past and his current messianic role for the future. Perhaps he'd arrange things so that those who come after him will be better prepared than his father was, thus creating the better future most of the galaxy doesn't even realize it needs. An inscrutable space hobo who builds the future with his bare hands against the mundane backdrop of whatever silly plot is occurring.
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Completely new set of characters cut off from most of the original fluff. Be like Law & Order. Sooner or later the same characters just gets old and you need to spice it up with a spin-off.
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There should be a new protagonist. I sympathize with Soontir C'boath's desire for something new, and the old stars are getting quite old. This protagonist could be a child of Luke or Han and Leia, but I don't want them to copy the EU characters.
I want Luke, Han, and Leia to have roles similar to Obi-wan and Yoda's roles in the Original Trilogy. They should be wise mentors who are supporting characters.
I want Luke, Han, and Leia to have roles similar to Obi-wan and Yoda's roles in the Original Trilogy. They should be wise mentors who are supporting characters.
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Since the OT has been compared to the Arthurian legend from time to time, perhaps we can shake it up a bit. The new movies (NT?) could take a bent off of Hamlet. Instead of the son trying to be bigger, better, and more than both his father and his humble birth; perhaps you could have a story about the son of Solo and Leia struggling to find his way in a galaxy where the lives and events of his parents and uncle cast a shadow on everything. Maybe Lucas can kill off Solo this time around, leaving Leia and Luke to raise the kid, no hanky stuff though, and the kid struggling to find his way with mom and uncle wanting a Jedi future and the kid wanting more of what his father wanted.
Just a thought.
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30-40 years after ROTJ means hopefully any "kids" of Han and Leia will be grown with fully developed personalities, jobs, and directions in life; I think "finding themselves" would be boring.
I'd love to see Han getting the Falcon fixed up for a Kessel Run, or maybe it's breaking down worse than ever and he just wants to take it on the run anyway, drama drama....it still sounds better than a pod race.
I'd love to see Han getting the Falcon fixed up for a Kessel Run, or maybe it's breaking down worse than ever and he just wants to take it on the run anyway, drama drama....it still sounds better than a pod race.
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Something that isn't the OT or the prequels. Its a big galaxy out there, with lots of things that don't involve Skywalkers or Solos or Sith or whatever.
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There's no way in hell Disney/LucasFilm will go for that. The characters might not be named Skywalker or Solo, but I'm guessing they will be some variation on the traditional character archetypes of the Original Trilogy. It really wouldn't surprise me if we see a smuggler, a Jedi, a princess, or a farm boy seeking adventure as one of the main characters.Connor MacLeod wrote:Something that isn't the OT or the prequels. Its a big galaxy out there, with lots of things that don't involve Skywalkers or Solos or Sith or whatever.
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People can talk about ideas that probably won't happen. I dot think we'll see a thoughtful examination of the power of fate and renewal either; but it'd be neat if we did.
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When people complain about the 'problems' of the EU, or the Prequels, that basically stems from (I think) nostaliga factor. They dislike the EU (or prequels) because it basically does not create that same 'nostalgia' factor, even though much of the EU is in fact an attempt to recreate/replicate the nostalgia (same cast/crew, same enemies, same threats, etc. Over and over again.) You also see the same in reactions to the idea of a 'non Lucas' Star Wars. It doesn't bother me because there's plenty of STar Wars I've enjoyed that isn't directly Lucas inspired (The EU), yet I imagine someone enamoured of just the OT (or the moveis in general) would find the idea horrible to contemplate because its something different than what they are used to.
If there is something to fear Disney doing, its continuing trying to 'cash in on nostalgia' because that will kill the franchise and any effort at something new, and different, and interesting from it.
If there is something to fear Disney doing, its continuing trying to 'cash in on nostalgia' because that will kill the franchise and any effort at something new, and different, and interesting from it.
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I meant 'kid' as in their child. Living in the shadow of heroes would be difficult at any age and would make the theme work, if written well.TOSDOC wrote:30-40 years after ROTJ means hopefully any "kids" of Han and Leia will be grown with fully developed personalities, jobs, and directions in life; I think "finding themselves" would be boring.
I would be surprised if anything more than a cameo is made for most the original cast. A 'special appearance' by so and so. At the very max, one of them playing the old sage wise Ben Kenobi role. Would be nice if one of the new characters inherited the Falcon though.I'd love to see Han getting the Falcon fixed up for a Kessel Run, or maybe it's breaking down worse than ever and he just wants to take it on the run anyway, drama drama....it still sounds better than a pod race.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
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A couple things I'd like to see:
1) More than a token answer to "what happens next?". Sure, the evil empire just lost its leader, but there's still a whole war to be fought. And there's still the issue of a political system where everyone happily handed over power to a dictator then just sat and watched as he created the Empire. Meanwhile the "good guys" are an awkward mix of nobility (who deserve to inherit some of the blame for the broken system of the Republic) and criminals whose actions are forgiven as long as they're fighting for the 'right' side. Killing the emperor and declaring the beginning of the new Republic isn't going to magically make these problems go away, and I'd like to see some recognition of the fact that many people still alive have experienced two galactic-scale wars while the reasons for those wars haven't gone away. It doesn't have to happen on-screen, but they should not just skip straight to the happy ending.
2) A better sense of the vast scale of the Star Wars universe. I'm not talking about whining about "EU minimalism" in fleet sizes and firepower, I mean the fact that over and over again we see the same few planets. I don't ever want to see Tatooine again, and I wouldn't mind if the rest of the locations were left in the past as well. Instead, show us something different. Show us how the galaxy is a huge and strange place, full of interesting aliens who do more than sit in the background in the bar scene.
1) More than a token answer to "what happens next?". Sure, the evil empire just lost its leader, but there's still a whole war to be fought. And there's still the issue of a political system where everyone happily handed over power to a dictator then just sat and watched as he created the Empire. Meanwhile the "good guys" are an awkward mix of nobility (who deserve to inherit some of the blame for the broken system of the Republic) and criminals whose actions are forgiven as long as they're fighting for the 'right' side. Killing the emperor and declaring the beginning of the new Republic isn't going to magically make these problems go away, and I'd like to see some recognition of the fact that many people still alive have experienced two galactic-scale wars while the reasons for those wars haven't gone away. It doesn't have to happen on-screen, but they should not just skip straight to the happy ending.
2) A better sense of the vast scale of the Star Wars universe. I'm not talking about whining about "EU minimalism" in fleet sizes and firepower, I mean the fact that over and over again we see the same few planets. I don't ever want to see Tatooine again, and I wouldn't mind if the rest of the locations were left in the past as well. Instead, show us something different. Show us how the galaxy is a huge and strange place, full of interesting aliens who do more than sit in the background in the bar scene.
Really? IMO the biggest problem with the EU was that it was nothing but nostalgia, just endless milking of the cash cow by putting the same title and characters on generic story after generic story.Connor MacLeod wrote:When people complain about the 'problems' of the EU, or the Prequels, that basically stems from (I think) nostaliga factor. They dislike the EU (or prequels) because it basically does not create that same 'nostalgia' factor, even though much of the EU is in fact an attempt to recreate/replicate the nostalgia (same cast/crew, same enemies, same threats, etc. Over and over again.)
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I don't want the Empire to exist after Return of the Jedi. Having the same villain is repetitive and the war dragging on is anti-climactic.
But conflict would continue. The Rebellion was to small to be able to control the entire galaxy immediately. So after the Empire collapses the galaxy would probably be divided between the New Republic and a bunch of little factions, at least some of whom would probably be belligerent.
Most of these factions probably wouldn't be strong enough to be a major threat to the New Republic, although Kuat probably would be if they use the EU's depiction of it.
But conflict would continue. The Rebellion was to small to be able to control the entire galaxy immediately. So after the Empire collapses the galaxy would probably be divided between the New Republic and a bunch of little factions, at least some of whom would probably be belligerent.
Most of these factions probably wouldn't be strong enough to be a major threat to the New Republic, although Kuat probably would be if they use the EU's depiction of it.
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LOL, I'd like them to try something different, and trash the EU. I don't know... perhaps the New Republic works and isn't a corrupt piece of shit.
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But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
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It'll be tricky. They need at least a tenuous connection to the "Tragedy of Darth Vader" in order to justify the movies actually being the Official VII-IX Sequel Trilogy versus some unrelated spin-off set in the GFFA.
I don't believe that Lucas already had treatments for these episodes. I do believe that he ended the story with ROTJ, as he stated publicly in recent years.
I don't believe that Lucas already had treatments for these episodes. I do believe that he ended the story with ROTJ, as he stated publicly in recent years.
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If the Jedi are around, I would like to see a Three Musketeers style camaraderie between all of them. Sort of what we saw at the beginning of Revenge of the Sith, with Obi Wan and Anakin making jokes at each other as they battled through the ship. It would also harken back to Star Wars roots, with adventure films, and aping Three Musketeers and other swashbuckler films is a good place to start.
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There are numerous parts of the EU I want them to remove, but I don't think they should change everything. If there's something from the EU that is good and fits in the film, why not use it?Knife wrote:LOL, I'd like them to try something different, and trash the EU. I don't know... perhaps the New Republic works and isn't a corrupt piece of shit.
Anyway, I suspect the New Republic will be better than it is in the EU because a mainstream film that will be watched by millions of children will probably be pretty idealistic. But on the other hand, dark reboots are popular these days.
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I hope they just call it the Galactic Republic again, not the New Republic.
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Why? I have no strong preference for either name. But it seems like a strange thing to care about.
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Why have a republic at all? Why not keep the Empire as a constitutional monarchy under Leia?Galvatron wrote:I hope they just call it the Galactic Republic again, not the New Republic.
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Fine with me. Maybe we'll discover in Episode VII that she was crowned Empress Leia after ROTJ and ruled benevolently for 30 years until her death. Maybe the new war is about succession.
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Galvatron wrote:I don't believe that Lucas already had treatments for these episodes. I do believe that he ended the story with ROTJ, as he stated publicly in recent years.
I think "treatments" is code-word for "shit Lucas scribbled on a cocktail napkin while he was making Episode IV."
I'm sure he had some basic idea of maybe doing 9 movies at some point, but that obviously went out the window with RotJ. Whatever these "treatments" are, they're probably from the period before Lucas decided to kill the Emperor in RotJ, which means they probably won't hold up well.
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Star Wars is just that, War in the stars. That's what I want to see. I want a space opera, I want scoundrels, bounty hunters, Jedi and Sith. I want a grand battle of good versus evil. Too many people seem to forget what the OT and PT was about. Star Wars without Jedi and Sith is not worthy of the name.
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