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Luke vs Dooku

Posted: 2002-08-24 06:13pm
by Omega-13
sword fight, who wins?


Luke dressed in the same outfit he had on when he fought Vader, roughly same time period

Posted: 2002-08-24 06:35pm
by Mr Bean
First or second time he faced Vadar?

Posted: 2002-08-24 06:37pm
by Joe
Dooku would just wipe the floor with Luke here; he held off YODA, for god's sake.

Posted: 2002-08-24 07:38pm
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
Dooku. He has the force lightning, the lightsaber skills, and the experience. Being Qui-Gon's master, he must be quite old.

Posted: 2002-08-24 07:54pm
by Darth Yoshi
Considering it's not uber-Luke from the post DE period, he doesn't stand a chance. After all, Dooku beat Obi-wan, who was Vader's master, and probably a better swordsman, too. Vader totally wasted Luke in TESB, and in ROTJ, Luke was on the defensive until Vader's comment about Leia. Thus:
Dooku>Obi-wan
Ob-wan>Vader
Vader>Luke
Ergo, Dooku>Luke

Posted: 2002-08-25 03:00am
by Admiral_K
There is a flaw in your reasoning. Vader is a much more experienced fighter then Anakin was. And Obiwan never struck me as the great swordsman type anyway.

Posted: 2002-08-25 03:21am
by Jim Raynor
Wasn't Dooku considered one of the greatest swordsmen in the Jedi Order? Like Durran said, he was able to battle Yoda to a draw. He completely murders Luke, who never had any formal training, and whose wild recklessness in battle is quite obvious.

Re: Luke vs Dooku

Posted: 2002-08-25 03:34am
by Stuart Mackey
Omega-13 wrote:sword fight, who wins?


Luke dressed in the same outfit he had on when he fought Vader, roughly same time period
The novel states that Dooku is a fencer and practices sword vs sword wearas the vast bulk of the jedi order have dispensed with this as it is not regarded as relivant in the 'modern galaxy', and concentrate more apon deflecting blaster bolts, than sword combat.
As such, Luke, who has little kowledge of sword combat full stop, simply would not have the experience to defeat dooku.

Re: Luke vs Dooku

Posted: 2002-08-25 12:06pm
by Tsyroc
Stuart Mackey wrote:
Omega-13 wrote:sword fight, who wins?


Luke dressed in the same outfit he had on when he fought Vader, roughly same time period
The novel states that Dooku is a fencer and practices sword vs sword wearas the vast bulk of the jedi order have dispensed with this as it is not regarded as relivant in the 'modern galaxy', and concentrate more apon deflecting blaster bolts, than sword combat.
As such, Luke, who has little kowledge of sword combat full stop, simply would not have the experience to defeat dooku.
That is my feeling too.

Dooku wins even without the force lightning.

Posted: 2002-08-25 04:37pm
by Omega-13
thinking about it rationally, yes I would have to say Dooku, but the young boy in me, who saw the original series so many years ago, wants Luke to win, with his green lightsabre and black outfit, putting Dooku on the defensive with powerful steady thrusts and attacks, like he did vs Vader

Posted: 2002-08-25 05:25pm
by Jim Raynor
Omega-13 wrote:thinking about it rationally, yes I would have to say Dooku, but the young boy in me, who saw the original series so many years ago, wants Luke to win, with his green lightsabre and black outfit, putting Dooku on the defensive with powerful steady thrusts and attacks, like he did vs Vader
If Luke tries to charge Dooku angrily, he'll end up eating Force Lightning like Anakin did.

Posted: 2002-08-26 10:20am
by Eleas
Darth Yoshi wrote:Considering it's not uber-Luke from the post DE period, he doesn't stand a chance. After all, Dooku beat Obi-wan, who was Vader's master, and probably a better swordsman, too. Vader totally wasted Luke in TESB, and in ROTJ, Luke was on the defensive until Vader's comment about Leia. Thus:
Dooku>Obi-wan
Ob-wan>Vader
Vader>Luke
Ergo, Dooku>Luke
Uh, that may be the weirdest attempt at reasoning I've seen in a long time. Swordfighting skills aren't static. Just because Obi-Wan beat Vader before his skills were fully realized doesn't mean he could take him on at the height of his powers.

Posted: 2002-08-26 10:21am
by Eleas
Jim Raynor wrote:Wasn't Dooku considered one of the greatest swordsmen in the Jedi Order? Like Durran said, he was able to battle Yoda to a draw. He completely murders Luke, who never had any formal training, and whose wild recklessness in battle is quite obvious.
Dooku taught swordsmanship at the Jedi Temple. He was one of their best.