Quarry shots for Star Wars VII
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Quarry shots for Star Wars VII
Seems like there will be a quarry scene for the upcoming Star Wars film. Let's see if the next movie is actually going to shoot in some interesting locations around the world.
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Re: Quarry shots for Star Wars VII
All kinds of stuff gets filmed in old quarries that has nothing at all to do with an actual quarry. All one can really assume is 'will have elevated rocky background'.
10 seconds of googling reveals that Doctor Who has used this site for filming. I'm sure in a few years we'll have a fascinatingly drawn out thread trying to match up shot angles.
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and to add seeing that most terrestial (aka earth like) planets would be essentially barren balls of rock and sand a quarry set doesn't that odd.
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at the very least it's good to see them using locations. Too much of the prequels were shot on a soundstage.
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I have no problem with them dressing up the quarry to make it look like some alien planets. It's just that I wanted to see them film in exotic locations like what the OT did. A quarry doesn't allow the cinematographer to depict the planet in a much bigger scope.Sea Skimmer wrote:All kinds of stuff gets filmed in old quarries that has nothing at all to do with an actual quarry. All one can really assume is 'will have elevated rocky background'.
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Since it allows them to be standing somewhere grey or yellow and simply replace the entire sky with robot space vikings, I don't really follow you. Shooting at a quarry doesn't mean every shot will be down into a gravel pit.
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They can't really do aerial shots if they are using a quarry as a stand in for some fictional world. Sure, you can recreate an aerial shot with CGI, but it can't be compared to seeing actors running through middle earth/Tatootine/Narnia.Stark wrote:Since it allows them to be standing somewhere grey or yellow and simply replace the entire sky with robot space vikings, I don't really follow you. Shooting at a quarry doesn't mean every shot will be down into a gravel pit.
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Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome was filmed in a quarry near Sydney. all of Bartertown was built and filmed there. They could have shot the Geonosis battle in a quarry instead of a green screen.
there's not many places on Earth you can go and film and not have some human/technology in the background. (it's not like the 50s, where they could film westerns with great vistas and not have telegraph poles or jet aircraft in the sky).
also helps having places nearby. They had to go past the most northern town in Norway just to get to Hoth.
there's not many places on Earth you can go and film and not have some human/technology in the background. (it's not like the 50s, where they could film westerns with great vistas and not have telegraph poles or jet aircraft in the sky).
also helps having places nearby. They had to go past the most northern town in Norway just to get to Hoth.
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The Hoth stuff was filmed in southern Norway, east of Bergen, remote but not that remote. Its not really possible to go past the most northern town in Norway and film anything but open ocean, as people live all the way to north cape.
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aren't a good deal of the wide shot of Hoth miniatures or matte-paintings though?Sea Skimmer wrote:The Hoth stuff was filmed in southern Norway, east of Bergen, remote but not that remote. Its not really possible to go past the most northern town in Norway and film anything but open ocean, as people live all the way to north cape.
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Yeah a lot of the stuff which is pure walker stop motion action is miniatures and paintings. All the stuff with people on the ground and some backgrounds for the miniature work was filmed on location in south Norway. Finse is the specific location of the filming.
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Filming confirmed for UK
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Re: Quarry shots for Star Wars VII
Were you disappointed by Utapau in RotS? Idk how much of that was CG, but I could easily see filming in a quarry for a setting like that.ray245 wrote:I have no problem with them dressing up the quarry to make it look like some alien planets. It's just that I wanted to see them film in exotic locations like what the OT did. A quarry doesn't allow the cinematographer to depict the planet in a much bigger scope.Sea Skimmer wrote:All kinds of stuff gets filmed in old quarries that has nothing at all to do with an actual quarry. All one can really assume is 'will have elevated rocky background'.
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Re: Quarry shots for Star Wars VII
I would prefer them not to use CGI to create environments and planets. Compositing real actors and props into a digital background is something many visual effect studios are poor at.Silver Jedi wrote: Were you disappointed by Utapau in RotS? Idk how much of that was CG, but I could easily see filming in a quarry for a setting like that.
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ILM has shown that they are one of the best at compositing real into CG.ray245 wrote:I would prefer them not to use CGI to create environments and planets. Compositing real actors and props into a digital background is something many visual effect studios are poor at.Silver Jedi wrote: Were you disappointed by Utapau in RotS? Idk how much of that was CG, but I could easily see filming in a quarry for a setting like that.
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But even in projects headed by ILM you can still tell whether an actor is digitally inserted into an environment. Compositing is still one of the weaker areas of the special effects industry in general. There are numerous studios that won Oscars in special effects despite the fact that some scenes are poorly composited.
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Yeah, it really works a lot better if everything up to head level is real, and the ground just has to be real to ever look convincing. Episode I-III really suffered from not even bothering with a real floor in a lot of shots. On the other hand, it is possible to do a crazy amount of post production work on a real background and with real lighting and have that be very convincing.
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Re: Quarry shots for Star Wars VII
I felt that this was worst on the Invisible Hand, there were some scenes where it had the appearance of a good video game background as opposed to the photo realistic look that is the ideal.Sea Skimmer wrote:Yeah, it really works a lot better if everything up to head level is real, and the ground just has to be real to ever look convincing. Episode I-III really suffered from not even bothering with a real floor in a lot of shots. On the other hand, it is possible to do a crazy amount of post production work on a real background and with real lighting and have that be very convincing.
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Sadly, most post-production rarely have the time or money to make a convincing shot look real enough.Sea Skimmer wrote:Yeah, it really works a lot better if everything up to head level is real, and the ground just has to be real to ever look convincing. Episode I-III really suffered from not even bothering with a real floor in a lot of shots. On the other hand, it is possible to do a crazy amount of post production work on a real background and with real lighting and have that be very convincing.
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The biggest reason for it to be shot on real locations is not even to fool the audience, but to fool the actors. When actors are in front of giant green screens, they have no idea or scope of what they're doing, who they are, or where they are. Compare the scenes taking place on Tatootine in Episode I, to the Coruscant scenes in Episode I. The performances of being surrounded by sets and real locations vs green screen is enormous.
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Well, that can be helped by pre-visualisation. They have used that for the production of Avatar, and that really helps the actors in ther performance.FaxModem1 wrote:The biggest reason for it to be shot on real locations is not even to fool the audience, but to fool the actors. When actors are in front of giant green screens, they have no idea or scope of what they're doing, who they are, or where they are. Compare the scenes taking place on Tatootine in Episode I, to the Coruscant scenes in Episode I. The performances of being surrounded by sets and real locations vs green screen is enormous.
Apparently, pre-vis is advanced enough for the actors to do a virtual walkthrough of the digital set in real time.
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A certain amount of real props can and often are used in front of the screens that provide cues to locations of stuff, then edited out and replaced by the 'real' thing. Its not the same as a physical set, but it helps as well. Still it gets downright silly to not even have a real floor, that forces a line to be made that is absurdly hard to make convincing, as well as requiring entirely CGI shadows, and this is just too obvious.
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