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I think that if Qui-Gon would have survived to train Anakin as he inteneded that things would have worked out better.

I think his personality was better geared towards training Anakin, some of which he showed in his interaction with Anakin on Tattoine. Some of this
may have been because of his experience training other children but I also think that his tendancy to be flexible (compared to the Jedi Council) would have worked better with Anakin's personality. I also bet that Qui-Gon would have attempted to do something about Anakn's mother, to help Anakin and just because it would be right to do so. This is something that probably never really entered Obi-wan's mind because the typical Jedi trainee wasn't supposed to be concerned with their birth family. Besides, doing something to help Shmi would have likely been outside the tradition of the Jedi, something that Obi-wan tended to stick to much more than Qui-Gon.


I also think that it had to bother Anakin on some level that Obi-Wan only took him as an apprentice because he promised Qui-Gon. That and the Jedi Council's earlier opinion of him certainly didn't have him psychologically starting off on the best foot. Heck, add that to Qui-Gon having died, Anakin leaving his mother (as a slave) and joining a group like the Jedi in such an unprecedented maner, he was bound to have problems.

Well Anakin's promise to come back as a Jedi and free all the slaves being lost among more "important" Jedi duties probably ate at him, if only subconsciously until the dreams about Shmi suffering came, and when he was as good as forbidden from checking on his mother...
Seeing his nature to sympathise with his fellow sentients (though whether Jar Jar Binks can be considered even remotely sentient is doubtful), I too feel that if Qui-Gon was still alive he would have helped Anakin free his mother, and things could have turned out a lot differently...

Here is where I have to disagree. Qui Gon is probably the reason why Anakin is the overbearing ass that he is in AOTC. Qui Gon throughout TPM keeps talking about Anakin being the chosen one, he puts that idea in Anakin's head that he is special that he is important and that helped shape what he became later. Qui Gon also showed him about defiance. He defied the counsel in front of Anakin and showed Anakin that if you want it bad enough you should not listen to the counsel.

Qui Gon was a BAD influence on Anakin,

Some other points about Qui Gon: He WOULD NOT try to save Ani's mom later on because he sure as hell didn't try really hard the first time. He got what he wanted - Anakin. Besides, a Jedi knows that attachments are forbidden and Qui Gon probably wanted to get him as far away from mom as possible.

During the battle of Naboo, he tells Anankin to stay in the cockpit - in otherwords you are more important than the rest of us, so stay safe, you're the chosen one.

Defiance is good.

I tantalize you with dreams of freedom and traveling among the stars - you just have to LEAVE YOUR MOM.

Qui Gon's Master became a Sith...you ahve to wonder if that same seed slumbered in Qui Gon's chest.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Qui Gon, My fav charcater in TPM, but Obi Wan probably was exactly what Ani needed, strict disciplinarian. He kept Ani in line for a lot longer than I think Qui Gon would have. Qui Gon would have been like a grandmother, always trying to spoil the kid while Obi is like the dad, trying to get him to walk the straight and narrow.

I disagree. Qui Gon may have thought Anakin was the chosen one but you never see him say this in Anakin's presense. When Anakin is around Qui Gon acts in the one way that Anakin really needs. He acts like a father to him.

Unfortunately he also acts this way to Obiwan in effect and when Obiwan takes over the training you can almost sense the older brother vs younger brother problem which Obiwan tries to solve through so rather heavy handed discipline.

By Stravo:

During the battle of Naboo, he tells Anankin to stay in the cockpit - in otherwords you are more important than the rest of us, so stay safe, you're the chosen one.

Anakin was just a kid of 10 years. What adult or jedi master would seriously give a kid a blaster and ask him to provide cover.

Next of Kin wrote:By Stravo:

During the battle of Naboo, he tells Anankin to stay in the cockpit - in otherwords you are more important than the rest of us, so stay safe, you're the chosen one.

Anakin was just a kid of 10 years. What adult or jedi master would seriously give a kid a blaster and ask him to provide cover.

What Jedi Master or Normal person would BRING a child to battle??

Where else could he put Anakin? All the Naboo were committed to storming the palace or getting the fighters into the air, and the Gungans were committed to the distraction of the Trade Federation. Chosen one or not, no one will leave a ten year old in a swamp.

IF Qui-Gon survived, Aniken would never have turned to the dark side. We see Anakin complaining to Padme in Episode 2 that Obi Wan dosent let him do anything. Since Qui-Gon always defied the council and did things that he wanted to well things that he felt he had to do to help the situation. If Qui-Gon was Anakins master, Anakin would have nothing to complain about since Qui-Gon would be going on missions and taking on situations a diffrent ways which would have given both Anakin and Qui-Gon leeway to do the things their way.

Stravo wrote:Here is where I have to disagree. Qui Gon is probably the reason why Anakin is the overbearing ass that he is in AOTC. Qui Gon throughout TPM keeps talking about Anakin being the chosen one, he puts that idea in Anakin's head that he is special that he is important and that helped shape what he became later. Qui Gon also showed him about defiance. He defied the counsel in front of Anakin and showed Anakin that if you want it bad enough you should not listen to the counsel.

Qui Gon was a BAD influence on Anakin,

I think that had Qui-Gon survived he would have been able to minimize the big headedness better than Obi-Wan's disciplinarian route. Anakin certainly would have a harder time jusitying the feeling that Qui-Gon was trying to hold him back since Qui-Gon is the one who insisted on bringing him forward in the first place.

Stravo wrote:Some other points about Qui Gon: He WOULD NOT try to save Ani's mom later on because he sure as hell didn't try really hard the first time. He got what he wanted - Anakin. Besides, a Jedi knows that attachments are forbidden and Qui Gon probably wanted to get him as far away from mom as possible.

During the battle of Naboo, he tells Anankin to stay in the cockpit - in otherwords you are more important than the rest of us, so stay safe, you're the chosen one.

Defiance is good.

I tantalize you with dreams of freedom and traveling among the stars - you just have to LEAVE YOUR MOM.

Qui Gon's Master became a Sith...you ahve to wonder if that same seed slumbered in Qui Gon's chest.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Qui Gon, My fav charcater in TPM, but Obi Wan probably was exactly what Ani needed, strict disciplinarian. He kept Ani in line for a lot longer than I think Qui Gon would have. Qui Gon would have been like a grandmother, always trying to spoil the kid while Obi is like the dad, trying to get him to walk the straight and narrow.

You might be right about Qui-Gon not saving Anakin's mother but from the little we saw of Qui-Gon interacting with Anakin he seemed better at helping him deal with his emotions than Obi-Wan was 10 years later.

There was a deleted scene where Anakin pounds on Greedo that contributes to my opinion that Qui-Gon would have been a better teacher for Anakin than Obi-Wan ended up being.

I still think that a lot of the Anakin/Obi-Wan problem originates from Obi-Wan taking on Anakin out of a sense of duty and not because he was inspired to teach him.