[SD.net EU Database] Shattered Empire

[Galvatron]

I just finished issue #1. It seems okay so far. I'm guessing the main characters are Poe Dameron's parents.

Oh, and, so much for the Endor Holocaust.
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The Imperials apparently had another shield generator base on the other side of Endor.

Ignoring that, however, there's STILL no indication of any debris causing extinction level impacts on Endor's surface.

[Adam Reynolds]

Was that Han Solo in that image?

And it is cool the Alliance apparently has something equivalent to a Republic gunship. I wonder if that also makes an appearance in the new Battlefront?

[Galvatron]

Yes, that's Han leading his strike team out of the gunship for some mop-up duty.

[RogueIce]

But...what was it covering, since the Rebels were clearly in the Ewok village at the end of RotJ? What was the point of this second shield generator? Why were they just standing around apparently completely unaware of anything else that happened? Or are we supposed to believe there was some battle in between Han and Leia kissing and the celebration?

We need a shitload more context about this second base.

[Galvatron]

In lieu of an actual explanation in the comic, my guess is that it was covering Endor itself while the shield generator the rebels destroyed was only protecting the Death Star.

[Anacronian]

That actually makes sense - protecting the Death Star shield generator from orbital bombardment i mean.

[Galvatron]

Indeed. IMO, that's the shield that the rebel shuttle had to get the Imperials to open in order to land on Endor in the first place.

[Anacronian]

Just read the comic:
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So this is Poe Dameron's parents.

Interesting, Not much else to say

[Adam Reynolds]

What is their background?

[Galvatron]

Mom is an A-wing pilot. Dad is a commando.

[Galvatron]

But...what was it covering, since the Rebels were clearly in the Ewok village at the end of RotJ? What was the point of this second shield generator? Why were they just standing around apparently completely unaware of anything else that happened? Or are we supposed to believe there was some battle in between Han and Leia kissing and the celebration?

We need a shitload more context about this second base.

As for context, that base was discovered sometime between the celebration and the following morning.

[RogueIce]

In lieu of an actual explanation in the comic, my guess is that it was covering Endor itself while the shield generator the rebels destroyed was only protecting the Death Star.

Then how did all the Rebels get on the planet for the celebration? Since they only discovered it after their party? And how would they have not known about this if they needed to pass through it?

It just comes across as an asspull, to have another battle on Endor because...reasons? I really don't know why they even bothered with this instead of, I don't know, hitting some Imp garrison elsewhere. But that would take too much creativity I guess.

[Adam Reynolds]

In lieu of an actual explanation in the comic, my guess is that it was covering Endor itself while the shield generator the rebels destroyed was only protecting the Death Star.

Then how did all the Rebels get on the planet for the celebration? Since they only discovered it after their party? And how would they have not known about this if they needed to pass through it?

It just comes across as an asspull, to have another battle on Endor because...reasons? I really don't know why they even bothered with this instead of, I don't know, hitting some Imp garrison elsewhere. But that would take too much creativity I guess.

I think it was a direct response to the Endor holocaust debate. But the problem is that the Rebel fleet and Death Star debries were at the same point in space. Either the Rebel fleet and debries would make it through, or they should both be stopped.

[Galvatron]

Yeah, I don't think we have enough information yet, but at least this confirms my old theory that the Empire had other installations on Endor. Perhaps the rebels knew about them too, but were surprised to discover that one of them was actually manned.

[Anacronian]

In Episode 1 the battle droids could walk through the Gungan's shields presumably because walking is very slow compared to a blaster shot, Perhaps the Endor shields allow slow moving transports to pass through but are a formidable barrier to a turbo laser shot(or incoming Death Star Debris)?

[Adam Reynolds]

In Episode 1 the battle droids could walk through the Gungan's shields presumably because walking is very slow compared to a blaster shot, Perhaps the Endor shields allow slow moving transports to pass through but are a formidable barrier to a turbo laser shot(or incoming Death Star Debris)?

If that were the caee, if would be rather useless as a defensive system. And why would the Rebel force not notice this until the next morning?

[Anacronian]

In Episode 1 the battle droids could walk through the Gungan's shields presumably because walking is very slow compared to a blaster shot, Perhaps the Endor shields allow slow moving transports to pass through but are a formidable barrier to a turbo laser shot(or incoming Death Star Debris)?

If that were the caee, if would be rather useless as a defensive system. And why would the Rebel force not notice this until the next morning?

It would be a great defence against orbital bombardment - also planetary shields are not uncommon in the SW universe it might just be a case of "ah planetary shields well lets reduce speed and look into that later", In fact that could be how all planetary shields work, you reduce speed to pass through them, But I'm just spitballing here.

[Adam Reynolds]

It would be a great defence against orbital bombardment - also planetary shields are not uncommon in the SW universe it might just be a case of "ah planetary shields well lets reduce speed and look into that later", In fact that could be how all planetary shields work, you reduce speed to pass through them, But I'm just spitballing here.

But if that were the case, why did the shield need to be lowered for Han's shuttle?

[Anacronian]

It would be a great defence against orbital bombardment - also planetary shields are not uncommon in the SW universe it might just be a case of "ah planetary shields well lets reduce speed and look into that later", In fact that could be how all planetary shields work, you reduce speed to pass through them, But I'm just spitballing here.

But if that were the case, why did the shield need to be lowered for Han's shuttle?

Good question.

[Bernkastel]

Also, it would raise the possibility of using fighters from the rebel fleet that would fly slowly through the shield, while covered by other fighters and the fleet, and then blow up the Death Star shield generator. Given how desperate the battle was, you'd then have to wonder why the idea was not considered.

[Anacronian]

Also, it would raise the possibility of using fighters from the rebel fleet that would fly slowly through the shield, while covered by other fighters and the fleet, and then blow up the Death Star shield generator. Given how desperate the battle was, you'd then have to wonder why the idea was not considered.

Well that possibility was always there with or without the planetary shields.

[Adam Reynolds]

Also, it would raise the possibility of using fighters from the rebel fleet that would fly slowly through the shield, while covered by other fighters and the fleet, and then blow up the Death Star shield generator. Given how desperate the battle was, you'd then have to wonder why the idea was not considered.

This came from Brian Young's argument that capital ship shields are permeable. The problem with this idea is that other than the Death Star, which was specifically stated to have weak defenses against fighter attacks, we don't actually see any evidence in favor of fighters launching unsupported attacks successfully. Examples from Clone Wars are inconsistent enough that the films not showing it at all is enough for me to say it is unlikely to work in general even if it is possible in certain cases. Especially since most visual evidence seems to indicate that shields are hull hugging. We don't see shield interactions well above the surface of the ships the way we would if they formed a bubble that it were possible to fly under.

He also bases this theory, as Anacronian did, on the performance of theater shields that must touch the ground and thus are required to have that weakness. My own theory as to shield penetration is that it is possible after shields have been weakened but before they are dropped completely. Based on the sucess of Rebel fighter attacks at Endor, it appears that fighters seem to increase in effectiveness as the battle wears on. This might indicate that there are holes that develop in shields that can only be penetrated by fighters. It would fit with Piet's order to intensify forward batteries. He was obviously worried about fighters rather than capital ships, indicating that while the shields were partially down they could still protect from turbolaser hits.

Even if it were proven true for capital ships, there is nothing to indicate that it would work against encompassing planetary shields which by all accounts seem far more powerful.

Well that possibility was always there with or without the planetary shields.

Not if it could block incoming ships.

[Anacronian]

Okay this is the only scenario I can see - The planetary shields do block ship but when the Death Star exploded the debris "overloaded" the shields and while the shields did protected Endor from most of the debris they had to be taken down - Rebels land and celebrates and by morning the shields are fixed and back up.

[Adam Reynolds]

Okay this is the only scenario I can see - The planetary shields do block ship but when the Death Star exploded the debris "overloaded" the shields and while the shields did protected Endor from most of the debris they had to be taken down - Rebels land and celebrates and by morning the shields are fixed and back up.

That could be possible. It would mean that they would be trapped under the shield.

[Tychu]

I know you guys are talking about shields, and it's been two weeks since I read issue #1 but, I don't remember them saying it was another shield generator. The issue informs us (Han) that reconnaissance has located Imperial hold outs in a heavily fortified base on the other side of Endor