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"The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater than half the star fleet."
Actually it was outright stated...although they called it a magnetic field instead.Crazedwraith wrote:They were implied to be inside the shields.
It seemed to work just fine against a capital ship in the Death Star novel, which contradicted all the earlier EU about how only the DS2 could target ships.Borgholio wrote:Actually I always did tend to interpret his quote as NOT including the superlaser. The reason is because as Rhadamantus said, the superlaser (at least on the first Death Star) was useless in a fleet combat.
I suspect the distinction isn't so much that it couldn't before, it was more that the superlaser was capable of firing much more quickly with DS2, and off-axis. The DS2 superlaser may have been a Version 2.0, so to speak.RogueIce wrote:It seemed to work just fine against a capital ship in the Death Star novel, which contradicted all the earlier EU about how only the DS2 could target ships.Borgholio wrote:Actually I always did tend to interpret his quote as NOT including the superlaser. The reason is because as Rhadamantus said, the superlaser (at least on the first Death Star) was useless in a fleet combat.
Is there something in the new canon that says one way or another?
In addition, I'm pretty sure the old Technical Journal either strongly implied or outright stated that DS1 was capable of reduced-power antiship fire.Elheru Aran wrote:I suspect the distinction isn't so much that it couldn't before, it was more that the superlaser was capable of firing much more quickly with DS2, and off-axis. The DS2 superlaser may have been a Version 2.0, so to speak.RogueIce wrote:It seemed to work just fine against a capital ship in the Death Star novel, which contradicted all the earlier EU about how only the DS2 could target ships.
Moreover, in ROTJ it seemed that the Rebels weren't surprised that it could target their ships, only that it was active to start with. Ackbar seemed to think it might be a lost cause once the DS2 started swatting capital ships, Lando manages to convince him to hang on by getting the Rebel fleet mixed up with the Imperial fleet to discourage collateral damage.Captain Seafort wrote:In addition, I'm pretty sure the old Technical Journal either strongly implied or outright stated that DS1 was capable of reduced-power antiship fire.Elheru Aran wrote:I suspect the distinction isn't so much that it couldn't before, it was more that the superlaser was capable of firing much more quickly with DS2, and off-axis. The DS2 superlaser may have been a Version 2.0, so to speak.RogueIce wrote:It seemed to work just fine against a capital ship in the Death Star novel, which contradicted all the earlier EU about how only the DS2 could target ships.
Because it is a statement of the obvious. Would you describe the yield of nuclear weapons to a commando team storming an ICBM silo, or would you focus on the defenses?Esquire wrote:Why would you describe the firepower of a strategic weapon installation... Without including the strategic weapon it's literally built around?
Because you are for all intents and purposes asking them to undertake a suicide mission, and people generally want a good reason for doing that.Adam Reynolds wrote: Because it is a statement of the obvious. Would you describe the yield of nuclear weapons to a commando team storming an ICBM silo, or would you focus on the defenses?
They already knew about Alderaan and that the Death Star would do the same to Yavin if they didn't stop it. The briefing appeared to be a purely technical one.Patroklos wrote:Because you are for all intents and purposes asking them to undertake a suicide mission, and people generally want a good reason for doing that.Adam Reynolds wrote: Because it is a statement of the obvious. Would you describe the yield of nuclear weapons to a commando team storming an ICBM silo, or would you focus on the defenses?
Indeed, purely technical. I interpret it as him simply explaining just how powerful this new superweapon is, in that it outstrips half of the massive Imperial starfleet in its firepower.Adam Reynolds wrote: They already knew about Alderaan and that the Death Star would do the same to Yavin if they didn't stop it. The briefing appeared to be a purely technical one.
This is good evidence that the 25,000 number is simply bogus, and someone pulled it out of... somewhere without the slightest knowledge of what they were talking about, as is the case with so much canon. Canon must be taken with a pinch of salt when you take into account most writers are just interested in the swooshy lightsabers and have no understanding of the wider universe.Frankly given the fleet numbers that seem to be reflected in the current canon, estimating their firepower based on this sort of thing gives results that are insane. If star destroyers are capable of that level of firepower, the Death Star is unnecessary, even against planetary shields.