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Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-02 12:18pm
by Rhadamantus
Given that half of the information about ships is scattered around threads and wikis, I think making one place to collect it is a good idea. Like so.
Name: Assertor Class
Alpha: 931 petatons
Super laser: Yes (1 exaton)
Armament: 376*720tt, 2132*240tt, 2048*40tt, 280*240tt ion
Crew: 250,000
Acceleration: 2750g
Maneuverability: Low
Fighter Complement: 24 wings (3,456 fighters)
Length: 15 Km
Type: Dreadnought
Reactor Output: 4e27 watts
Year Commissioned: 23 BBY
EW Scan Capability: 1 ISD at 6000 AU
Gravity Well Generator: Yes (5x) (25 solar mass)
Missiles: Yes (72 tubes)
Re: Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-03 09:41am
by Darth Tanner
Assertor doesnt have a supler laser? Also 22BBY? Its a clone wars design?
Re: Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-03 02:00pm
by Rhadamantus
Assertor was supposed to be a post-shadow hand ship, and it does have a superlaser.
Re: Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-03 04:32pm
by Simon_Jester
Where are you getting this from?
Jane's and other similar publications normally write a few paragraphs explaining the context of a ship's creation, construction, and use in combat. That is arguably more important to have on hand than a big pile of random statistics of uncertain providence.
Re: Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-03 05:08pm
by Elheru Aran
Simon_Jester wrote:Where are you getting this from?
Jane's and other similar publications normally write a few paragraphs explaining the context of a ship's creation, construction, and use in combat. That is arguably more important to have on hand than a big pile of random statistics of uncertain providence.
(emphasis added)
You're going to want to note where you get them from, and any firepower numbers are going to require calcs upon request. Just vomiting 'x biggatons' isn't going to be taken seriously by anybody.
It's a laudable initiative, mind you, but it needs to be broader and better cited.
Re: Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-03 05:18pm
by Rhadamantus
The stats were fractal's as best as I could gather. It's easier for movie ships, of course.
Re: Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-03 06:17pm
by Simon_Jester
A one-sentence blurb doesn't really address the issue.
If you don't feel up to writing a few paragraphs about a ship and what it gets used for, you probably shouldn't be doing this. Because without that, it's just a big slab of "blargh biggatons" that doesn't mean anything to anyone.
Re: Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-03 06:22pm
by Elheru Aran
...so you're throwing up stats for fan creations now? Granted Fractal is about as good as you can get and his stuff has even been made canon on occasion, which is nice, and this ship is technically his version of a ship from the canon, but it's still going to get called a fan creation for all that.
Don't get me wrong. If someone wants to debate an Assertor vs. a Galaxy Class or something, that's one thing, and it's nice to have the stats for that.
Most debate however tends to concern ships from the canon, particularly the movies, and it would be better to have those first. Just my .02$.
Re: Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-03 06:33pm
by Rhadamantus
This isn't really for versus debates.
Re: Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-03 06:53pm
by Elheru Aran
Rhadamantus wrote:This isn't really for versus debates.
Well, what's your point, then? Why do this versus just popping over to Wookiee? (not being argumentative, just a honest question)
Re: Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-03 07:35pm
by Rhadamantus
Wookiee is less complete, and often excludes old ICS numbers.
Re: Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-03 08:04pm
by Simon_Jester
Rhadamantus wrote:This isn't really for versus debates.
Does this serve any specific, definite purpose?
Re: Jane's Fighting Ships
Posted: 2017-07-03 08:35pm
by Batman
If I had to guess I'd say Rhadamantus wants all the performance data for Wars ships gathered in a single place.