Strategy Challenge: Defend GFFA From Yuuzhan Vong

[Illuminatus Primus]

You are the Chief of State and President of the Senate elected immediately after the end of the Hand of Thrawn duology. Your supporters are also in power.

You secretly become aware of the coming Yuuzhan Vong onslaught (you learn they're coming and their basic capabilities, but that is all; you don't know where Vector Prime will be). What do you do to prepare, as you have 5-6 years?

Be realistic now.

EDIT: Joining with the Remnant and redeclaring the Galactic Empire is NOT an option.

[phongn]

Begin immediately shaping the government to have stronger, central powers and secretly inform the military about what's going on. Begin seeding the Outer Rim with NRI agents.

Prepare a core battle-fleet for action and begin training the national contingents for combined operations with the federal warfleet.

Just a couple of thoughts.

[Darth Gojira]

NOT act like a pussy

[Darth Garden Gnome]

Do we know they will enter through the area designated "Vector Prime"? If so, all you'd have to do is amass a large enough number of ships in that area when they arrive, and the Praetorite Vong fleet would be demolished.

If not, the basics would be to shape up the govt. for war. How exactly would you prove to the people that the Vong would come? It depends on how you found out. Once you've proved it, the Republic would be ready for war. Increase ship production, draft civilians if neccesary, inflate the threat as much as possible.

Being that NR ships are superior to YV ships, and that relatively few ships in the YV fleet, the NR would cut off any YV advancement in thier tracks. You wouldn't even need to contact the Remenant.

[Durandal]

Stage some sort of crisis that justifies increased military spending, then follow my sig.

[Joe]

Well, despite Imperial fanboy claims to the contrary, the Vong would be a difficult fight for even a competent government, unlike the NR. There would be heavy losses sustained in the initial stages of the war; their technology is so different from anything the NR is used to dealing with (not superior, just different) that the adjustment period would be extremely difficult, regardless of military prowess. That said, all the government in question needs to do is actually adopt a hardline stance against the Vong, rather than negotiating with them and fighting them in a half-assed way at the same time. Garrison the living fuck out of the area surrounding Vector Prime, dispatch spies, mount a propaganda campaign unlike anything in the history of the Galaxy (which would actually be justified, because the Vong are so evil that its difficult to further demonize them), and form an alliance (and nothing more) with the Chiss and the Empire; the Chiss have their inadequacies, but they would still be helpful. Also, respect and aid the Jedi; the Jedi constantly stuck out their collective wang for the NR, and the NR responded by slamming the door on it. Losses would be heavy, but eventually, after adjustment, NR military superiority would kick in and the Vong would be beaten back.

[Darth Fanboy]

Well If I have advance knowledge then I find the first Vong I can, develop Alpha REd-style weapons ASAP and use those.

For the space battles I would use Automated Star Destroyers at first to piss the vong off with droid fighters sort of like the ones used by the World devastators.

then finish off the remaining.

The jedi stay out of my government's way for now.

[Illuminatus Primus]

Well If I have advance knowledge then I find the first Vong I can, develop Alpha REd-style weapons ASAP and use those.

You realize you have to study the Vong, right, in order to do that?

[Darth Fanboy]

Thats why I find the first Vong I can. Use that piece of genetic material to develop the weapon.

[Joe]

Thats why I find the first Vong I can. Use that piece of genetic material to develop the weapon.

Use of the genetic weapon is not the preferred course of action. In addition to fear of adverse side effects, there is also a general sentiment that the Vong should not be defeated by using Vong tactics.

[Darth Fanboy]

General sentiment among the Jedi you mean.

And if you limit the vong to one world or so, or just infect their bioships with pathogen carrying warheads ther eis no way for the virus to traverse the cold void of space. Thus the effects are limited. Then use extreme quarantine measures afterward. It can be done.

[Joe]

General sentiment among the Jedi you mean.

And if you limit the vong to one world or so, or just infect their bioships with pathogen carrying warheads ther eis no way for the virus to traverse the cold void of space. Thus the effects are limited. Then use extreme quarantine measures afterward. It can be done.

No, Cal Omas does not want to use it either.

[Darth Fanboy]

Ok Jedi and Alderaanians. Small price to pay to prevent the murder and enslavement of billions, possibly trillions of people.

EDIT: To make it up to you though we'd be willing to test the adverse bio effects of this weapon on Tony Cole and Jim Harrick

[Lonestar]

First phase, begin an increased training tempo for the NR military. Increase Federal Power. Perform joint exercises with the Empire.

Second, expand the fleet. In order to get away with this, a crisis must be formed. Either the Yevetha, or the Siss-ruuk(which we see are coming inRemnant) might do.

Third, spread agents throughout the outer rim. Increase fleet presence along likely entry lanes for the Vong.

Finally, at no time are we to inform the Jedi what's going on. Intially, Luke would be inclined to negotiate. We can see now that the only way to put the Vong into a position of negotiating is to win, and win big.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

EDIT: Joining with the Remnant and redeclaring the Galactic Empire is NOT an option.

Bastard.




Declare myself Emperor, increase military spending 300%

[Darth Fanboy]

Joining/Reforming the Empire may not be an option Grand Admiral, but it isn't necessary in this case. Its merely a matter of dealing with your military's incompetence and thwarting the bureaucrats who will destroy their own system.

[Typhonis 1]

build fully automated warships and LEt the Vong know they are sentient machines then when they launch mass attacks we use amplified radiation weapons on em

[Darth Fanboy]

That works too. Battle droids with Napalm also hehehe,

[Captain tycho]

Start massive re-militization and propaganda caimpaigns. Seal up all sensitive orginzations so that the Vong won't be able to send in spies.
Start hundreds of new bases in the outer rim, and heavily patrol vector prime.

[Darth Fanboy]

Id also set aside plenty of funds to start a mercenary army so that nothing like the Peace Brigade could pop up without a fight.

Send the mercenary armies to fight the harshest battles as disposable soldiers, paying the survivors handsomely enough so that theyd fight hard, knowing that if they succeed and survive they'd be set for life. Something many mercenaries would be unable to resist.

[His Divine Shadow]

You are the Chief of State and President of the Senate elected immediately after the end of the Hand of Thrawn duology. Your supporters are also in power.

You secretly become aware of the coming Yuuzhan Vong onslaught (you learn they're coming and their basic capabilities, but that is all; you don't know where Vector Prime will be). What do you do to prepare, as you have 5-6 years?

Be realistic now.

EDIT: Joining with the Remnant and redeclaring the Galactic Empire is NOT an option.

1) Assasinate Borsk
2) Kill his family
3) Eat his pets
4) Destroy his planet
5) Do the same to all of his supporters

6) Build up the fleet
7) Tighten internal security, install bio-sensors at every important facility and key point
8 ) Strike a peace treaty with the Imperial Remnant(stop pissing away ours and their resources, give them time to rebuild too)
9) Increase the power and funding of the NRI to find and root out traitors and corruption
10) Increase funds to research on gravity technology and such(so we have a heads up on yammosk yamming)
11) Start a secret bio-warfare program that will deal with nano-technology.

And so on...
Honestly it's gonna be hard, the galatic industry and resource base is shattered, and it's gonna take many decades to get it back to the same abilities as the Empire had during their height.
The rebuilding of the infra-structure is very important.

[His Divine Shadow]

Well, despite Imperial fanboy claims to the contrary, the Vong would be a difficult fight for even a competent government, unlike the NR.

What? With the Empire at it's height, well thats like Iraq trying to invade the USA.
And thats no fanboyism either, it's objective facts.

The only fanboyism is in blowing the Yuuzhan Vong up to unrealistic proportions, the facts are that they are weak and small, their total fleet is infitesimal compared to the Imperial fleet at it's height(22 million ships and trillions of soldiers vs. 1-200k ships and a few billion soldiers) and there are no political cracks for them to exploit anymore.

This much was acknowledged by the Vong themselves.

[Kazuaki Shimazaki]

You are the Chief of State and President of the Senate elected immediately after the end of the Hand of Thrawn duology. Your supporters are also in power.

You secretly become aware of the coming Yuuzhan Vong onslaught (you learn they're coming and their basic capabilities, but that is all; you don't know where Vector Prime will be). What do you do to prepare, as you have 5-6 years?

Be realistic now.

EDIT: Joining with the Remnant and redeclaring the Galactic Empire is NOT an option.

In that case... if I got the full support of the Senate. Supposing I don't have their exact location...

First, I'll remind everyone of the Yevethans and how criminally unprepared we were to deal with them decisively. We'd see how much Fleet we can build with that.

Next, I'd announce this HUGE "aid" package for the Imperial Remnant, whose economy is in utter turmoil. We hope that this will bring them to reconcilation and eventual full reunion with the New Republic, blah, blah, blah.

I'll now let the Imperial Remnant and Kuat know what is REALLY happening. The aid program would go into a massive shipbuilding business. The ships are theirs, of course, at least nominally.

It'll be built on the old Imperial-model. Lots of BIG, BIG, BIG ships. Sovereigns, Executors, Vengeance, Allegiance, Dominator - all those nightmare ship classes that the Rebels consistently refuse to acknowledge accurately in their official fleet publications (just TRY to find an "official" statistic on an Vengeance or an Allegiance, or one with the correct length of an Executor.

If the Imperials can't find enough manpower, no problem. We are sending a lot of our own NR guys over there, to learn from the Imperials the true nature of the very grim realities of war. I'll trust the Imperials to keep them non-squawking.

If anyone ever finds out about this, I'd mutter something about "lost fleet" and the Imperials acquiring it, how they're such sellouts. I'll be ordering a shipbuilding program to match that. Of course, we'd build THIS fleet with NR doctrine, so lots of smaller ships. We'd try to MATCH the "Imperial" buildup. I'd be caling back some of our people now in the Imperial units.

Several years later, the Vong come in. With increased fleet presence in every sector, we verify Vong faster. Now, we ALLY with the Imperials in our great time of need.

When the two fleets are FUSED together, it should be a very balanced fleet, with the appropriate ratios of large and small ship types, along with plenty of the best starfighters that each side can create (the newest model X-Wings and upgraded TIE Defenders, probably.)

Well, maybe Durran does have a point - we'd have a painful adjustment period. But superior firepower does a lot to cushion that (as an extreme proof, the Federation has different technology, but because of the overwhelming Imperial superiority in basic factors like power, nobody expects severe difficulties even for a first contact Imperial-Federation battle.) We'd learn faster, and we'd crush them.

Of course, the Imperials will refuse to demobilize, and so we refuse to demobilize. We play this charade for as long as we can after the Vong crisis, delaying the inevitable demobilization that would come with peaceful democracies.

[Illuminatus Primus]

Well, despite Imperial fanboy claims to the contrary, the Vong would be a difficult fight for even a competent government, unlike the NR.

What? With the Empire at it's height, well thats like Iraq trying to invade the USA.
And thats no fanboyism either, it's objective facts.

The only fanboyism is in blowing the Yuuzhan Vong up to unrealistic proportions, the facts are that they are weak and small, their total fleet is infitesimal compared to the Imperial fleet at it's height(22 million ships and trillions of soldiers vs. 1-200k ships and a few billion soldiers) and there are no political cracks for them to exploit anymore.

This much was acknowledged by the Vong themselves.

I'm tempted to round them up to at least a million, with several tens of trillions of soldiers at least.

[Illuminatus Primus]

Of course, the Imperials will refuse to demobilize, and so we refuse to demobilize. We play this charade for as long as we can after the Vong crisis, delaying the inevitable demobilization that would come with peaceful democracies.

The armies and navies you just mobilized are almost entirely in the NR's hands. Face it: there's no way that the Empire's 8 sectors and thousand member worlds can support an infrastructure to support and military capable of challenging even a half-hearted NR, much less a fully-mobolized New Republic.