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Some star wars questions
Posted: 2003-04-09 09:34am
by Sarevok
1. When the Devastator was chasing leia's ship notice that there were no ties around. Given that one of the primary uses of fighters is to harras and corner enemy ships why was the Devastator using tubolasers intstead of fighters to corner the blokade runner. My idea is that the fighters were launched when the Devastator first encountered the corvette then the corvette microjumped away and the Devastator followed leaving the fighters behind.
2. Why did the Devastator tractor the blokade runner in its hanger bay instead of using assault shuttles ? It is dangerous to have ship in the hanger bay since it can self destruct causing immense damage.
3. There are too few fighters in battle of endor. It seems the empire was limited to fighters on board the star destroyers and no the death star' millions of fighters. I think this is because the death star was incomplete and its fighter complement was delivered yet.
Re: Some star wars questions
Posted: 2003-04-09 09:54am
by Ted C
evilcat4000 wrote:1. When the Devastator was chasing leia's ship notice that there were no ties around. Given that one of the primary uses of fighters is to harras and corner enemy ships why was the Devastator using tubolasers intstead of fighters to corner the blokade runner. My idea is that the fighters were launched when the Devastator first encountered the corvette then the corvette microjumped away and the Devastator followed leaving the fighters behind.
That's certainly possible, but we absolutely no information as to why the Devastator did not have TIEs deployed during that battle, so anything you come up with is unsupported speculation.
evilcat4000 wrote:
2. Why did the Devastator tractor the blokade runner in its hanger bay instead of using assault shuttles ? It is dangerous to have ship in the hanger bay since it can self destruct causing immense damage.
It may be possible for a Corellian corvette or it may not. We've certainly never
seen a corvette self-destruct. The possibility of the ship firing its weapons inside the docking bay would seem to be a greater risk, but Vader and his subordinates apparently dismissed it. Apparently whatever damage they caused when the Tantive IV's shields failed was sufficient to render the ship pretty helpless.
evilcat4000 wrote:
3. There are too few fighters in battle of endor. It seems the empire was limited to fighters on board the star destroyers and no the death star' millions of fighters. I think this is because the death star was incomplete and its fighter complement was delivered yet.
That too is possible, but again, it's pure speculation.
Re: Some star wars questions
Posted: 2003-04-09 10:09am
by ClaysGhost
Ted C wrote:
It may be possible for a Corellian corvette or it may not. We've certainly never seen a corvette self-destruct. The possibility of the ship firing its weapons inside the docking bay would seem to be a greater risk, but Vader and his subordinates apparently dismissed it. Apparently whatever damage they caused when the Tantive IV's shields failed was sufficient to render the ship pretty helpless.
The reactor on the corvette was disabled, wasn't it? Probably sufficient to render the weapons ineffective/useless.
Posted: 2003-04-09 10:34am
by vakundok
1. When the Falcon escaped from the Tatooin there were no fighters either. When the Falcon escaped from the Hoth there were fighters but they caused the destroyer nearly to hold fire. Maybe the standard engage does not employ fighters to avoid targeting problems for the turbolasers.
2. It is true, but do not forget that the destruction of the corvette would cause the destruction of the plans and the end of the rebellion. That is why the corvette did not self destruct and Vader was sure about the plans so he knew that the corvette would not do it. Besides (if I remeber well) the main reactor (of the corvette) was switched off, so the danger of shots within the bay was also minimal.
3. The DS1 was fully equipped and it still did not mobilize vast numbers of Tie squadrons. Besides, I think it would be impossible to show millions of fighters onscreen.
Posted: 2003-04-09 11:57am
by Darksider
vakundok wrote:
3. The DS1 was fully equipped and it still did not mobilize vast numbers of Tie squadrons. Besides, I think it would be impossible to show millions of fighters onscreen.
Didn't there not being vast amounts of Ties have somthing to do with the fact that the heavy jamming during the Battle of Yavin would have made it difficult for all those ties to fly around without flying into each other and the fact that they didn't need millions of ties to deal with 30 rebel starfighters???
Posted: 2003-04-09 12:09pm
by Keevan_Colton
IIRC it was only the squadron under Vader's personal command that was launched as Tarkin dismissed the fighters as no threat and therefore didnt mobolize the full force of the DS.
Posted: 2003-04-09 12:10pm
by Darksider
Keevan_Colton wrote:IIRC it was only the squadron under Vader's personal command that was launched as Tarkin dismissed the fighters as no threat and therefore didnt mobolize the full force of the DS.
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Posted: 2003-04-09 05:40pm
by Lord_Xerxes
vakundok wrote:1. When the Falcon escaped from the Tatooin there were no fighters either. When the Falcon escaped from the Hoth there were fighters but they caused the destroyer nearly to hold fire. Maybe the standard engage does not employ fighters to avoid targeting problems for the turbolasers.
Perhaps they couldn't get the Fighters launched in time. Han didn't exactly wait for clearance to leave Tatooine, he just hauled ass out of there. By the time the troops on the ground notified the SD's, Han was probably already burning for a jump point. It was probably just easier for them to chase and fire away with TL's. Might have been trying to knock out the Falcon's shields and engines so they could nab it and haul in it. I think they wanted the droids intact, so maybe they didnt' want to run the risk of a fighter's strafing run breaching the ship.
Of course, this is all speculation.
Posted: 2003-04-10 09:00am
by Sarevok
Keevan_Colton wrote:IIRC it was only the squadron under Vader's personal command that was launched as Tarkin dismissed the fighters as no threat and therefore didnt mobolize the full force of the DS.
May be the reason the death star did not deploy sufficient number of fighters is purely imperial arrogance. After all there is no way 3 squadrons of fighters could be a threat to a battlestation capable of defeating an entire fleet. Probobly Darth Vader realized that and he wanted to use this oppurtunity to personaly kill as many rebels as possible.
Posted: 2003-04-10 06:35pm
by Admiral Johnason
That claw in the SD emits a small EMP pulse that disables almost all systmes, excpet those having to do with life support. It was in the Cross-sections book. Also, that would have destroyed the plans and made the mission a total failure.
Posted: 2003-04-10 06:46pm
by Robert Treder
The ICS describes the claw as an "electromagnetic paralyzing pincer crane," but it doesn't indicate that it saves the life support.
Posted: 2003-04-10 06:47pm
by Admiral Johnason
Well, there was no evidece that life support failed and some Imperials did board without hazzard suits.
Posted: 2003-04-11 03:24am
by vakundok
An "electromagnetic paralyzing" could hurt the plans if they would be stored in the central computer, couldn't it?
Posted: 2003-04-12 10:08am
by His Divine Shadow
Admiral Johnason wrote:Well, there was no evidece that life support failed and some Imperials did board without hazzard suits.
Even if life support fails people aren't going to fall down and die on the spot, they'd have hours if not much longer to live of the atmosphere already present in the ship.