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Is my being a Piett fan ludicrous?

Posted: 2003-04-16 12:04pm
by Baron Scarpia
I can't help it, Admiral Piett is one of my favorite SW characters. I don't know what it is, but I just have this fascination with him. I think it is maybe Colley's performance, which is very sympathetic. You get a sense that he is not at all an evil man, thus showing the Imperials were mostly just ordinary folks doing their job, albeit in the service of an evil regime.

*shrugs* maybe it's just my own weirdness!

Posted: 2003-04-16 12:06pm
by Ghost Rider
Eh, he had a high surviability. :)

I mean it took an A-Wing to kill him...

Posted: 2003-04-16 12:33pm
by Vympel
Bah. Veers was better.

Posted: 2003-04-16 12:37pm
by Darth Wong
Piett is extremely professional, and he somehow managed to avoid soiling himself when Vader turned around to face him after they lost Luke at the end of TESB.

Posted: 2003-04-16 12:40pm
by Vympel
Darth Wong wrote:Piett is extremely professional, and he somehow managed to avoid soiling himself when Vader turned around to face him after they lost Luke at the end of TESB.
:)

Watch this scene:

"That is the system. And I'm sure Skywalker is with them. Set your course for the Hoth system"

*Vader turns. Veers is one centimetre away from Vader's helmet*

"General Veers! Prepare your men!"

There's where I'd soil myself.

Posted: 2003-04-16 12:44pm
by Ghost Rider
Vympel wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Piett is extremely professional, and he somehow managed to avoid soiling himself when Vader turned around to face him after they lost Luke at the end of TESB.
:)

Watch this scene:

"That is the system. And I'm sure Skywalker is with them. Set your course for the Hoth system"

*Vader turns. Veers is one centimetre away from Vader's helmet*

"General Veers! Prepare your men!"

There's where I'd soil myself.
I think him reporting Ozzel's failure would've been just as a soiling moment. :P

Posted: 2003-04-16 12:52pm
by neoolong
The man has balls of brass. Face it, he rocks.

Re: Is my being a Piett fan ludicrous?

Posted: 2003-04-16 12:58pm
by Galvatron
This is one of the reasons I HATE the EU's portrayal of virtually every high-ranking Imperial officer as an arrogant and corpulent dumbass. Veers and Piett were competent and professional. Hell, Needa and even Ozzel were better than the morons in the comics and novels (with the exception of Thrawn and Pellaeon).

Posted: 2003-04-16 01:00pm
by Baron Scarpia
Ghost Rider wrote:
I think him reporting Ozzel's failure would've been just as a soiling moment. :P
Maybe, but I think he'd also revel in it...sticking it to the idiot Ozzel, after all.

Vader seems to be "nicer" to Piett than to anyone else. It's as if he almost likes the man. In RoTJ, his tone towards the Admiral is really mellow and seems to be one of trust.

I think we need a first name for Piett, too. How about Pierre? ;)

Posted: 2003-04-16 01:02pm
by neoolong
Baron Scarpia wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
I think him reporting Ozzel's failure would've been just as a soiling moment. :P
Maybe, but I think he'd also revel in it...sticking it to the idiot Ozzel, after all.

Vader seems to be "nicer" to Piett than to anyone else. It's as if he almost likes the man. In RoTJ, his tone towards the Admiral is really mellow and seems to be one of trust.

I think we need a first name for Piett, too. How about Pierre? ;)
But Piett didn't surrender to the Rebellion. :wink:

Re: Is my being a Piett fan ludicrous?

Posted: 2003-04-16 01:04pm
by Baron Scarpia
Galvatron wrote:This is one of the reasons I HATE the EU's portrayal of virtually every high-ranking Imperial officer as an arrogant and corpulent dumbass. Veers and Piett were competent and professional. Hell, Needa and even Ozzel were better than the morons in the comics and novels (with the exception of Thrawn and Pellaeon).
What does EU stand for, out of curiosity?

Yeah, Needa got screwed because he had the guts to accept responsibility for his failure, even though he could hardly be blamed for it.

Tagge was another (apparently) quite competent Imperial who had a lot more sense in him than the "stereotypical Imperial." And then there's Tarkin's aide, too! Smart fella. I always like to think he beat it to an escape pod right after that scene.

Posted: 2003-04-16 01:05pm
by SirNitram
Firmus Piett.

Then again, the man who told me this, also thinks Palpatine's first name is Bob. So take it with a cube of salt.. Oh, about as big as Cuba.

But yes. Piett is a great character.

Posted: 2003-04-16 01:06pm
by Ted C
Ghost Rider wrote: I think him reporting Ozzel's failure would've been just as a soiling moment.
Veers made a good-faith effort to save Ozzel's life; that was probably more of a risk than most Imperial officers would take.

Posted: 2003-04-16 01:16pm
by Galvatron
Ted C wrote:Veers made a good-faith effort to save Ozzel's life; that was probably more of a risk than most Imperial officers would take.
The military probably loathed Vader. It doesn't surprise me that Veers would make an effort to save Ozzel's life from that capricious dick.

Vader liked Piett because he was a rat. His ass was Piett's nose-holster.

Posted: 2003-04-16 01:16pm
by Kuja
SirNitram wrote:Firmus Piett.

Then again, the man who told me this, also thinks Palpatine's first name is Bob. So take it with a cube of salt.. Oh, about as big as Cuba.
The New Essential Guide to Characters confirms that his first name is Firmus.


And Baron Scarpia: EU stands for Extended Universe. It's everything SW that isn't a movie. :wink:

Posted: 2003-04-16 01:17pm
by Baron Scarpia
neoolong wrote:
Baron Scarpia wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote: But Piett didn't surrender to the Rebellion. :wink:
:lol:

Maybe Erwin, then? ;)

Re: Is my being a Piett fan ludicrous?

Posted: 2003-04-16 02:11pm
by Ghost Rider
Baron Scarpia wrote:What does EU stand for, out of curiosity?
Expanded Universe.

And you have the oddest quoting technique...maybe just some slight mishaps but it's funny.

Re: Is my being a Piett fan ludicrous?

Posted: 2003-04-16 03:28pm
by Baron Scarpia
Ghost Rider wrote: And you have the oddest quoting technique...maybe just some slight mishaps but it's funny.
How is it odd? I just like to delete all the stuff except the direct phrase(s) I'm replying to.

I'm used to Apolyton, which has a little bit different quote structure.

Re: Is my being a Piett fan ludicrous?

Posted: 2003-04-16 03:43pm
by Wild Karrde
Tagge was another (apparently) quite competent Imperial who had a lot more sense in him than the "stereotypical Imperial." And then there's Tarkin's aide, too! Smart fella. I always like to think he beat it to an escape pod right after that scene.
Well... If you give the Star Wars Holiday Special *shudder* any offical status Tarkin's aid and Tagge apparently escaped before the DS blew up.

Curtis Saxton even has a small section on it:
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/bast.html

Re: Is my being a Piett fan ludicrous?

Posted: 2003-04-16 03:47pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Galvatron wrote:This is one of the reasons I HATE the EU's portrayal of virtually every high-ranking Imperial officer as an arrogant and corpulent dumbass. Veers and Piett were competent and professional. Hell, Needa and even Ozzel were better than the morons in the comics and novels (with the exception of Thrawn and Pellaeon).
Read the NEGTC.

Veers is described as a cool, professional, "solder's soldier" and Piett is described as a hard-working and brilliant officer who excelled despite a lack of brown-nosing or political contacts.

Re: Is my being a Piett fan ludicrous?

Posted: 2003-04-16 04:02pm
by Baron Scarpia
Wild Karrde wrote:
Tagge was another (apparently) quite competent Imperial who had a lot more sense in him than the "stereotypical Imperial." And then there's Tarkin's aide, too! Smart fella. I always like to think he beat it to an escape pod right after that scene.
Well... If you give the Star Wars Holiday Special *shudder* any offical status Tarkin's aid and Tagge apparently escaped before the DS blew up.

Curtis Saxton even has a small section on it:
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/bast.html
Wow! That's awesome! I'd always kinda hoped those guys survived the first DS. I figure a lot of personel would have gotten wind of something being wrong and would have evacuated the base. Certainly the "we" in "We have analyzed their attack..." would have had good reason to jump ship.

Posted: 2003-04-16 04:06pm
by Stravo
I for one never liked Piett. My take on him was he was a little weasel that ratted out on Ozzel the first oppurtunity he got. Watch the scenbe where he first appears and how he staged the whole discovery at Hoth thing precisely to attract Vader's attention.

He is not a militray genuis and more like an ambitious cronie.

Posted: 2003-04-16 04:06pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
Lets face it, Piett just looks professional. Ozzel looks goofy. And while Piett speaks with an aura of coolness about him, he doesn't race his voice, he has a quiet mellow tone. Ozzel sounds (not is, sounds) like a blithering bloke of an officer; his way of speech is arrogant, and again he looks goofy.

If I were Vader I would've choked Ozzel too, just for the above reasons. :P

Still, Veers is the coolest Imperial officer of the entire trilogy. So professional.

Re: Is my being a Piett fan ludicrous?

Posted: 2003-04-16 04:07pm
by Wild Karrde
Baron Scarpia wrote:
Wild Karrde wrote:
Tagge was another (apparently) quite competent Imperial who had a lot more sense in him than the "stereotypical Imperial." And then there's Tarkin's aide, too! Smart fella. I always like to think he beat it to an escape pod right after that scene.
Well... If you give the Star Wars Holiday Special *shudder* any offical status Tarkin's aid and Tagge apparently escaped before the DS blew up.

Curtis Saxton even has a small section on it:
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/bast.html
Wow! That's awesome! I'd always kinda hoped those guys survived the first DS. I figure a lot of personel would have gotten wind of something being wrong and would have evacuated the base. Certainly the "we" in "We have analyzed their attack..." would have had good reason to jump ship.
Glad to be of help. 8)

Posted: 2003-04-16 04:12pm
by Darth Garden Gnome
Stravo wrote:I for one never liked Piett. My take on him was he was a little weasel that ratted out on Ozzel the first oppurtunity he got. Watch the scenbe where he first appears and how he staged the whole discovery at Hoth thing precisely to attract Vader's attention.
The reason he staged the Hoth discovery was because he KNEW Ozzel wouldn't have considered it. That was a smart move on Piett's part. After all, Piett was right.

He is not a militray genuis and more like an ambitious cronie.
The NEGTC casts him in a different light. Vader was said to keep, "many of the Empire's best officers around him, without regard for their political standing."

Apparently, Piett was the man for the job.