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Valiento wrote:I actually haven't added anything to this thread yet, but I hope this helps:

"The Ins and Outs of Shield Generators and Projectors, v. 6.2: by darthseti and tears of palpatine.

I. Shield Operation:

i. Energy from the main reactor core enters the shield generators, where it is increased by a large factor and converted into a form of energy (“purified energy” able to be used by the projectors.

ii. Purified energy is routed from the generators to the shield projectors; there, the energy is converted into a “deflector shield,” which is then projected around the ship, typically in a hull-hugging fashion.

II. Shield Failure:

i. Projector capacitors allow a safe power-down in the event of a failure of the shield generators until another energy source is procured. Although very uncommon, at times small amounts of shield energy residue remain in the capacitors, sometimes allowing 7.5 per cent or less shield energy to exist for a short time. There are some documented cases of shield residue higher than 7.5 per cent, sometimes as high as fifteen per cent, but this is extremely uncommon.

ii. In the event of a failure of the shield generators, technicians will attempt to reroute “crude energy” directly from the main reactor core to the shield projectors in order to reëstablish shield functions. Because the crude energy has not been refined into purified energy, the projectors are only able to function at approximately 25 per cent of maximum capacity; performance levels in excess of 25 per cent are documented, and are typically found on older ships with more experienced crews.

iii. Deflector shields remain up when generators are overloaded, but cannot be replenished and are therefore easily brought down by salvoes from enemy vessels.

iv. Deflector shields drop completely when projectors are overloaded, and this constitutes a serious threat as projectors are not as easily replaced as generators.

III. Shield Types

i. Particle deflector shields, which are closely hull-hugging in most warships, function as a sort of invisible and mass-less wall surrounding the ship. Solid materials, such as asteroids and starfighters, are vapourised on contact with the particle deflector shields. These are operating at all times in order to protect the ship from micrometeorites, and are only lowered in order to make repairs, receive or send HoloNet transmissions, and (in localised regions) to receive or launch smaller vessels. The absorption of kinetic energy and vapourisation of solid matter depletes the shields, thus necessitating constant replenishment.

ii. Ray deflector shields, which tend to hull hugging (but not as closely as particle deflector shields) in order to prevent damage from “bleed-through,” function as a sort of invisible and mass-less wall which absorbs incoming rays and re-transmits them over a greater area, thereby reducing the destructive effects immensely. The re-transmission of the rays does permit a certain amount of ray energy to “bleed through,” and the process gradually depletes the shields, thus necessitating constant replenishment. Ray deflector shields are only raised in combat situations due to the considerable energy requirements.

iii. Cloaking shields, which are spherical in shape, function by creating immense warps in space-time in order to cause matter and energy to flow around the shield rather than actually striking it. This causes the ship to be completely invisible, but also has the side effect of blinding the ship generating the shield. In addition, exhaust must be vented through the shield, which might conceivably be detected by enemy vessels. Sufficiently sensitive gravitic sensors can detect cloaking shields.

IV. Dangerous Warheads

i. Warheads include concussion missiles, 1.5-kiloton proton torpedoes, advanced concussion missiles and advanced proton torpedoes, heavy rockets, space bombs, multi-megaton capital ship warheads, mag pulse warheads, and T-33 warheads, which are extremely dangerous and can overload Star Destroyers’ shields in approximately three impacts.

ii. Warheads are unaffected by ray deflector shields, and it is rumoured that there exists some types of advanced concussion missiles unaffected by particle deflector shields, as well. Advanced proton torpedoes, which have significantly higher destructive capacity than the standard 1.5-kiloton proton torpedoes, may also have been modified to by-pass particle deflector shields. T-33 warheads, which are advanced hybrids of Imperial heavy rockets and space bombs, release terrific amounts of energy in extremely short bursts, in effect depleting ray deflector shields far more quickly than they can be replenished.

Addendum est, Section IV, sub-section ii:

"The extremely rare mag pulse warheads, which are confirmed as being equipped with the unusual ability to by-pass shields, have sensors which target weapons emplacements, and detonate just above them. These weapons render weapons emplacements completely inert for some time, often the entirety of a combat engagement. These are therefore considered to be even more dangerous than the other types of warheads."

iii. All warheads are considered extremely dangerous to capital ships regardless of actual output---especially in volleys, which have the peculiar effect of multiplying the destructive effects, by several factors. Pilots and gunners are therefore ordered to shoot down enemy warheads whenever possible---even if doing so requires the loss of an opportunity to shoot down the vessel firing the warheads.

V. Laser Fire

i. “Laser fire” (the colloquial name for highly energised plasma discharges used as the primary ray weapons of starfighters) is effectively eliminated as a threat by ray deflector shields. Not nearly as powerful as full-fledged turbolaser discharges, laser fire can still pose a threat if persistent starfighters wish to harass a capital ship, and can incur a one to five per cent reduction in shield integrity per 40 seconds per two to three starfighters. It is therefore not considered a priority threat, but left un-dealt with, can cause significant damage over time.

ii. There remains one anomalous usage of laser fire---there are isolated incidents of field modifications to turbolaser batteries producing peculiar effects. Turbolasers fire by using a laser to energise tibanna gas into a plasma state, which is then ejected from the cannon. The laser, which gives its name to the weapon, actually strikes the target well before the bolt, and in some cases will actually damage or destroy it; mostly, however, ray deflector shields easily absorb and retransmit the laser without difficulty. At times, however, field modifications to the turbolaser cannon result in a peculiar phenomenon in which the “trigger” laser, which is itself mass-less, passes through ray and particle deflector shields and strikes the hull, in effect “burning” a “hole” through which the actual turbolaser bolt passes, unaffected by the shields. This is extremely unusual, and the execution of which requires an extremely talented weapons technician.

VI. Noteworthy Example of Shield Failure

i. The EXECUTOR:

During the Battle of Endor, the rebel fleet fired numerous salvoes of turbolaser fire and numerous heavy torpedo volleys at the Imperial flagship, destroying several of her shield projectors. Per standard operating procedure, technicians were ordered to replace the failed projectors, but were unable to do so in time because multiple starfighters took advantage of the loss of shields to attack the conning tower. After further damage, in which joint starfighter-capital ship attacks brought down all shields and destroyed at least one generator, a single A-wing eluded massive weapons-fire and penetrated the flagship’s defences. The interceptor intentionally crashed into the bridge, killing the entire command crew including Admiral Piett, and causing a loss of control, which, compounded by a severe engine failure, sent the mighty flagship plummeting into the Death Star II, the impact of which completely shattered the Super Star Destroyer."
Bib Fortuna, Twi'lek wrote:Sorry, but you are wrong. They are shield generators, and nothing you can do or say will change that fact.

I don't know why people continue to believe Saxton's work, even when they have been proven wrong time and time again.
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Bib Fortuna, Twi'lek wrote:The A-wings were under the shields. Get it? That means their laser shots were not hindered in any way by the shields.

Some people...
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MysteryWhiteBoy8 wrote:I love how this is still an issue. I love how we can argue about it. All the valid arguments make me laugh out loud. All the page long explanations are even funnier.

The domes are shield generators. Why? Because the A-wings blow them up and the shields go away. The Imperials SAY this. That is why their ship IS DESTROYED. Also, everything else, sourcebooks, tech books, video games, point to those as being 'shield generators.' It doesn't have to make sense. Remember how many things in Star Wars don't.
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Valiento wrote:The star wars universe Ain't real what ever story teller says is what happens. When you can prove to me that SD are real you can tell me who or what is in error. But not until then. Until then it's only authors and story tellers and lucas who have any rights as to what is and isn't part of continuity.

The problem with using the movie as evidence is it doesn't flat out say anthing. Unlike star trek people don't break out into technobabble to explain details. So 2 sides read into it in the way they want too. Either you got the ones that go about saying Fictionalists are wrong. Or the ones that say the Supposositionists are wrong. Either way it gets far too Nerdy. Yet still only the ones payed to do something actually have the write to say anything and that is what is considered true by all of LFL.

They will never listen to fan based supposition.
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Bib Fortuna, Twi'lek wrote:FTeik--please stop believing the BS that is in the Technical Commentaries. They are fanfiction, nothing more, so what they say can and will be overridden by the novels.

We have already explained how the A-wings were able to get under the shields. They are shield generators because there is NO evidence for them being sensor domes.
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It could work. If the shields extended around the entire universe. Then the A-Wing would be under the shields. :D
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Ohhhh, "pure energy" that get's converted into "deflector energy (:wink:)", and if that fails, use crude oil, er... I mean crude energy...

It's a good thing I don't frequent that board, the amount of stupidity would certainly infect my brain.

Why this... hate for the Technical Commentaries by those guys? What has Dr. Saxton done to them? (Besides using logic deductions to completely wreck their "fanboysh" illusions, of course... Hum, I think I've answered my own question...)
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Valiento wrote:Of course fteik the novelizations are canon, but even if saxton quotes them he can easily miscontrue them to his own fowl reasoning, which he does.

Not everything in the novel can be taken literaly for instance it said that hobbie died, and so did veers.

rotj says that obi-wan is the brother of owen, which could easily be rewritten in the new movies if lucas so well chooses.

rotj says that the planet endor has been gone for a very long time, yet, the ewok movies which are canon and are set before rotj, show the planet in all it's glory. The planet is seen later on in other novels.

Anh novel says that luke was the pilot of blue squadron when we can see that he was really flying red squadron, these are just a few of the mistakes in the novels, If we take them as fact and over riding most of the EU, we have to throw out most of the EU.

But as it is much of the novelizations mean squat when figureing out how things work. The movies themselves dumb everthing down for movie and time purposes so that very few things can be accurately determined, even if saxton says so. Weg games got all their information straight from the models that skywalker ranch has kept in prestince condition in their wherehouses and museum.

So yes saxton word means squat.

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Genghis12 wrote:Fteik...
"As to WEG: The first version regarding the (Computer-)Games admitted freely that every "real" combat against capital ships through fighters is bejoined the reach of the game."

That is a _CLEAR_ misstatement of 1st Ed. SWRPG by WEG. In fact, they have a section in Starship Combat entitled "What this system is not." It was not beyond the reach of the game since the following is taken from that source...
"Starship combat is complex. We could design an entire game on it (and have), incorporating mnay details that don't matter for the purposes of a roleplaying game...The starship combat system presented here works just fine for roleplaying. If you want more detail, look for our game of Star Wars starship combat. It's called Star Warriors. It can be played in its own right without any reference to the roleplaying game - or used to fight out space battles that occur while you're roleplaying."

WEG has always been 100% dead-on when it came to measuring starships. They're system has _ALWAYS_ had the ability to handle capital ships from the very beginning. In the core companion, the Star Wars Sourcebook released a month after the 1st Ed. Core book, Capital Ships were all detailed. It was just something which didn't require space in a general core rulebook. In fact, the Star Wars Rules Compendium, a 1st Ed. supplement went much more in-depth into capital ship combat than was required in the general core rulebook. A number of 1st Ed. products from the Imperial Sourcebook to the Rebel Alliance Sourcebook had capital ship stats. In addition, WEG heavily supported Star Warriors as a companion RPG product within its own SWRPG adventures.

WEG layed the groundwork that nearly _EVERYONE_ afterwards followed. However, the statement that they freely admitted they didn't handle "real" starfighter/capital ship combat was just plain wrong.
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Valiento wrote:fteik you miss some cannon evidence for are theories, since you seem to be a movie only fan, and lack imagination to think up your own continuaty fixes. (I'm not flaming you but you seem to show signs of denial, where you could come up with theories like us.) But back on track here is the the place in the canon were a measily object takes out a star destroyer or better.

Go to ESB and watch the scenes with the asteroid belts. A very small asteroid slams into the bridge tower of the star destroyer and the whole destroyer went nova. You can see vader talking to the commander and then the guy look behind him as flames erupt around him. obviosly it hit that weak point that guri knows of how to exploit.

Then on rotj, ackbar says concentrate all power on the super star destroyer, they shoot at bridge globes until they burst, and arvel crynyd flies his fighter straight through the bridge tower, which left the ship unmanned pulled by gravity into the death star. something as massive as the death star would have it's own gravity, that's according to the earth science class I took. But if the super star destroyer was so good, why would a very small dymek missle loaded a-wing do that much damage to the armor plated bridge of the executor?(the premier star destroyer of the empire)

Because lucas was trying to show that evil always has a weakness, and good can exploit that weakness and win always.
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Valiento wrote:exactly yoddles, to me it's just a story, I go by what ever is officialy said in the licensed books and guides. So to me they are shield globes.


Ok I'm done....I promise. :)

Actually, I was cruising for a quote by The Tears of Palpatine, who posted this (the original page is the url posted directly above before the idiot Val quote) beautifully against the ignorant masses. I'll find it later though...
The Tears of Palpatine wrote:==actually proton torpedoes can destroy an Imperial class I star destroyer, for the perfect example of this read the Star Wars Comic:Shadows Of The Empire Evolution, in this book in some of the first pages Guri is flying her custom ship The Stinger and is being chased by a Imperial Class I Star Destroyer after the captain demands that she surrender her ship for inspection she unleashes her entire ships collection of Proton Torpedoes and the star destroyer controllers finally see them coming but only too little too late, the entire star destroyer is totally destroyed and guri's stinger has not one scratch on it!

In SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE: EVOLUTION, Guri fires six warheads at an Imperial Star Destroyer, which is completely destroyed by them. The six warheads cannot have been proton torpedoes. Proton torpedoes have a yield of approximately 1.5 kilotons; if the warheads were proton torpedoes, the Imperial battleship was destroyed by a total of nine kilotons.

If three kilotons barely even scratch Imperial armour (refer to A NEW HOPE), then nine kilotons will not completely destroy a heavily armoured battleship massing several million tons.

Refer to SLAVE SHIP, p. 248:

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…the laser cannons being mounted into the open skeletal frames required bracing and recoil-dissipation casings that would have withstood explosions measured in the giga-tonnage range.
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This indicates that sections of an Imperial battle destroyer can withstand multiple gigatons, as in more than two. One gigaton is equal to 1,000 megatons, each of which is equal to 1,000 kilotons. This means that in order to damage these sections of Imperial armour, approximately 1,333,334 proton torpedoes.

...*snip*...

Nevertheless, 1.5-kiloton torpedoes are of negligible efficacy in actions against capital ships.
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How on Earth can you stand those fools on TF.net?
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Well most of them are stupid and painfully simple to smackdown like flies.
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Not all the residents of the Jedi Council forums are critics of Dr Saxton, or dogmatic in their support for the infallibility of the EU. In the link Illuminatus Primus provides, for example, at the very top of the page, a fellow named III_Vir_RPC attempts to show that the sensor globes cannot possibly be interpreted to be shield generators.
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Publius wrote:Not all the residents of the Jedi Council forums are critics of Dr Saxton, or dogmatic in their support for the infallibility of the EU. In the link Illuminatus Primus provides, for example, at the very top of the page, a fellow named III_Vir_RPC attempts to show that the sensor globes cannot possibly be interpreted to be shield generators.
I know this - I've seen a few posters attempting to go against the tide of fools, but they seem to be almost drowned by the cries of "EU! EU!"
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Publius wrote:Not all the residents of the Jedi Council forums are critics of Dr Saxton, or dogmatic in their support for the infallibility of the EU. In the link Illuminatus Primus provides, for example, at the very top of the page, a fellow named III_Vir_RPC attempts to show that the sensor globes cannot possibly be interpreted to be shield generators.
Oh I'll agree.

A certain poster named Citizen_Chauvelin, for example ( :wink: ) is a notable exception to the dogmatic and wildly irrational assumptions of the Lit Forum denizens.

I also keep an eye out for III_Vir_RPC, The Tears of Palpatine (his old posts anyway), FTeik and Thief. And that clever bastard Lord_Darth_Bob ( :P ). While he might not be the most rational, his resource threads are too great an oppurtunity to snub, also The2ndQuest.

And I think "critics" is too kind. Kier_Nimmion, Valiento, Genghis12, Syntax, and others are downright hostile, derisive, or slanderous toward mention or consideration of Dr. Saxton and his work.
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This idiocy makes me glad that I'm on SD.net.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:A certain poster named Citizen_Chauvelin, for example ( :wink: ) is a notable exception to the dogmatic and wildly irrational assumptions of the Lit Forum denizens.
You know, sometimes your only rival as a master of subtlety is Teddy Roosevelt.

And that account hasn't that many posts logged, any way.
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Publius wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:A certain poster named Citizen_Chauvelin, for example ( :wink: ) is a notable exception to the dogmatic and wildly irrational assumptions of the Lit Forum denizens.
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Publius wrote:And that account hasn't that many posts logged, any way.
At least they all count.
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I find it a little ironic that these morons on TF.N's message board hate SWTC so much, considering that TF.N hosts SWTC. :roll:
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If you do go back there, just repeat this mantra:

The BRIDGE deflector shields went down, you fucking moron. WATCH THE FUCKING MOVIE.

The BRIDGE deflector shields went down, you fucking moron. WATCH THE FUCKING MOVIE.The BRIDGE deflector shields went down, you fucking moron. WATCH THE FUCKING MOVIE.

The BRIDGE deflector shields went down, you fucking moron. WATCH THE FUCKING MOVIE.

The BRIDGE deflector shields went down, you fucking moron. WATCH THE FUCKING MOVIE.


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The domes are shield generators. Why? Because the A-wings blow them up and the shields go away. The Imperials SAY this. That is why their ship IS DESTROYED.
The hell? The shields went down because the Rebel fleet was pounding on
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Can someone give me a brief explanation why the domes are not shield generators?
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Shinova wrote:Can someone give me a brief explanation why the domes are not shield generators?
There are no analogous structures on any other non-stardestroyer ship, it doesn't make any fucking sense to put you shield generators in a exposed, vulnerable location that's hard to access for maintence, and the shape and location is perfect for it to be part of the sensor array. Some modern day radar arrays are housed in structures similar to those domes.
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Beowulf wrote:
Shinova wrote:Can someone give me a brief explanation why the domes are not shield generators?
There are no analogous structures on any other non-stardestroyer ship, it doesn't make any fucking sense to put you shield generators in a exposed, vulnerable location that's hard to access for maintence, and the shape and location is perfect for it to be part of the sensor array. Some modern day radar arrays are housed in structures similar to those domes.
Then I suppose it's credible to assume that the destruction of that one sensor dome messed up something on the bridge and brought down the deflectors.
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Shinova wrote:
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Shinova wrote:Can someone give me a brief explanation why the domes are not shield generators?
There are no analogous structures on any other non-stardestroyer ship, it doesn't make any fucking sense to put you shield generators in a exposed, vulnerable location that's hard to access for maintence, and the shape and location is perfect for it to be part of the sensor array. Some modern day radar arrays are housed in structures similar to those domes.
Then I suppose it's credible to assume that the destruction of that one sensor dome messed up something on the bridge and brought down the deflectors.
Or alternatively, the shields went down, and the fighters strafed the sensor to help the Rebel capships. The guy who reported bridge deflectors as down could have been just slightly slow in reporting in, possibly having other things to monitor in addition to the shield generators...
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HemlockGrey
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Post by HemlockGrey »

Grr. How long does it take to be approved?
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