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hey has anyone ever discussed this before?

Check out this sight http://www.synicon.com.au/sw/yhead/yhead.htm#3d

What do you think?

What's to discuss? There are many ships in the Battle of Endor that have not been completely described. The one at the bottom, circled in red, is almost certainly a heavy cruiser, also seen in the game SW Rebellion.

D'OH! I meant a bulk cruiser. Sorry. I don't know what came over me.

Sure, we don't know what the hell they are, but I'm sure it'll be fun guessing what they do, how big they are, and the like!

"Uhh, I say 450 meters"
"Using precise scaling, it comes to about 262.523721 meters. I win!"

The 4th one from the left looks almost exactly like an Assault Frigate.

And despite what he claims, I am convinced this

Is a Dreadnaught.

or a carrack light cruiser

The 4th one from the left looks almost exactly like an Assault Frigate.

The third one from the left looks like a Dauntless-class cruiser from Rebellion to me.

Is a Dreadnaught.

Looks more like the Flurry from Truce at Bakura to me. Flat, Delta-shape and medium size. That seems like the best match to me and Flurry was at Endor for sure.

Nothing like the Flurry IMO. I really believe if it's not a Dreadnaught it's a Carrack. They're damn near identical to begin with.

Definately a dreadnaught. What else could it be? BTW, if no class name is giving (ie blowjob class dreadnaught) I nominate we name em the Katana class dreadnaught.[/i]

1. That ship is NOT the Flurry. The Flurry is a flat little triangle that has a hangar attached to the back. It looks nothing like that. Look at it in EGVV.

2. That could either be a dreadnaught or a bulk cruiser. Personally, I think it is a bulk cruiser for two reasons.

a. It looks more like a Bulk cruiser than a dreadnaught to me. The engines and the middle section are all wrong in that ship.
b. The Alliance converted all of its dreadnaughts to Assault Frigates.

It cannot be a carrack cruiser for a couple of reasons.

a. It is too big, based on scaling from the other ships around it.
b. It looks nothing like a Carrack cruiser. It is too long and thin in the center. Remember that a Carrack worked to make internal space available, because so much of it was taken up by weapons and shields and armor and its innovative damage control unit.

Its not a dreadnaught. Notice at has a command tower (similar to the one on the Acclamator) at the aft end.

Perhaps the dreadnaught design was based on that ship but that ship is not a normal dreadnaught.

Headshots_Sold_Here wrote: BTW, if no class name is giving (ie blowjob class dreadnaught) I nominate we name em the Katana class dreadnaught.[/i]

Dreadnaughtclass Star Frigateis the class designation

Morte wrote:Its not a dreadnaught. Notice at has a command tower (similar to the one on the Acclamator) at the aft end.

Perhaps the dreadnaught design was based on that ship but that ship is not a normal dreadnaught.

We just see something sticking up. That could easily be one of the dishes that pop up on the end of the Dreadnaught in the pics.

Not a chance. That thing is far too big to be a mere dish. Notice that it is almost half the size of the front 'clam', about a tenth of the size of the entire ship and sticks out well above the engines. Nothing like the dish on a dreadnaught.

Actually, there's a chance that this 'command tower' may be two blurred stars... hard to tell.

Master of Ossus wrote:1. That ship is NOT the Flurry. The Flurry is a flat little triangle that has a hangar attached to the back. It looks nothing like that. Look at it in EGVV.

2. That could either be a dreadnaught or a bulk cruiser. Personally, I think it is a bulk cruiser for two reasons.

a. It looks more like a Bulk cruiser than a dreadnaught to me. The engines and the middle section are all wrong in that ship.
b. The Alliance converted all of its dreadnaughts to Assault Frigates.

It cannot be a carrack cruiser for a couple of reasons.

a. It is too big, based on scaling from the other ships around it.
b. It looks nothing like a Carrack cruiser. It is too long and thin in the center. Remember that a Carrack worked to make internal space available, because so much of it was taken up by weapons and shields and armor and its innovative damage control unit.

Yeeeeah. Well, I am going to have to go ahead and uhm, agree with you on the Carrack part. Bulk Cruiser or a Dreadnaught. No matter what the EU says about converting, it could still be a Dreadnaught, seeing how RotJ was around before the EU.

That comand pod could have been added to a deadnaught for some reason.

In EGVV it says that the Rebel Alliance converted its Dreadnaughts into Assault Frigates. The Alliance was ended days after the Battle of Endor and became the New Republic. Unless you are saying that it went into Endor as a Dreadnaught and was converted within days to becoming an Assault Frigate then I can't see how it could be a dreadnaught.

1. That ship is NOT the Flurry. The Flurry is a flat little triangle that has a hangar attached to the back. It looks nothing like that. Look at it in EGVV.

I know what it looks like. It looks to me like that is the Flurry. Given the orientation, we'd be see in it more or less in profile, perhaps tipped a little toward the viewer. The bulge aft looks like the hangar to me and the bulge forward, the bridge.

In EGVV it also says it didn't have3 very many of them.

Converting a ship takes time and money, neither of which the Alliance had a lot of. I have zero problem seeing them calling an older, nonrefitted but still extremely capable ship into active duty for a mission such as Endor.

And consider this: They brought unarmed transports along; why not an older but still extremely powerful ship?

i would say that is a side view of the y-headed corvette but thats just me. People will see what they want to see.

No where near it. The Y-Head corvette is completely different. Looking at the head on shot, you can see there is a totally different design to it. Also it's profile doesn't even come close the the 'Flurry'.

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There we go. That's more of a Flurry profile there. I guess. Heh. It sucks trying to do that line shit.

I really believe it has to be a Dreadnaut. If not. some form of Bulk Cruiser but that's about it.

Ender wrote:In EGVV it also says it didn't have3 very many of them.

Converting a ship takes time and money, neither of which the Alliance had a lot of. I have zero problem seeing them calling an older, nonrefitted but still extremely capable ship into active duty for a mission such as Endor.

And consider this: They brought unarmed transports along; why not an older but still extremely powerful ship?

Because that ship would take up vastly more crew members than other ships would for the same utility. Their fire ships took up at most ten or twelve crew members. Dreadnaughts are very weak ships that take up thousands in their non-converted forms. The EGVV says that the Alliance converted their Dreadnaughts. What makes you think they did not convert all of them, but just did not start out with very many?

Weak? You say the Dreadnaught is weak?

The Dreadnaught packs more firepower then the Assault Frigate. It's shileds are weak compared to those of, say and ISD, but so are most ships.

Now the crew thing I will agree on. But the dreadnaught is certainly not a weak ship.