Imperpator SD
Posted: 2003-05-07 07:57pm
aren't they called imperial class sorry if this has been answered
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I do no such thing. Since the cited quote did not get the number of Imperial worlds right--its already just flawed supposition on Pelleaon's part.Aaron2 wrote:yet it slavishly adheres to the 25,000 ISD theory
No, not capitalizing and using proper punctuation makes you look ....Anget Fisher wrote:but in the books it says imperial i probally sound like a stupid troll
Some here would debate that statement. I personally enjoyed his novels for the story and characters, but found his minimalisim with the battles occassionally a bit, less than awe inspiring . I mean if Thrawn had unified a majority of the Imperial Fleet and remaning Imperial Space, yet his command squadron is a paltry 8(IIRC) ISD's? 180 Republic era Dreadnoughts are enough to tip the balance of power between the New Republic and the Empire.....don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the Thrawn Trilogy, but he should have gone bigger and more impressive.Admiral Johnason wrote:All really excepteed books start with Zahn. He was the first to write really good SW novels.
Yeah, that makes most sense. Imperial became the slang term for the Imperator SD just like Super became the slang for the Executor SSD. They were ever present reminders. Very much how all carriers in the US are called by basic Aircraft Carriers or just Super Carriers.SPOOFE wrote:My reconciliation...
The technical name is "Imperator". However, "Imperial" is a slang term used by the Rebels that entered into common nomenclature, probably due to the fact that they were so damned prominent in the Empire. Kinda like how there are several different classes of carriers in the modern US fleet, but they're all just called "aircraft carriers" for shorthand.
That's my hypothesis, anyway.
But the Imperator-class and Executor-class were never anything remotely resembling each other in class. Totally different designs and purposes. Furthermore, Palpatine himself properly addresses the Executor's class coolly and calmly. "Your work here is finished my friend. Go out to the command ship and await my orders." Or Han Solo, Imperial Academy graduate w/ honors, "Now don't get jittery Luke, there are a lot of command ships." And again, Palpatine: "I thought I told you to remain on the command ship."Alyeska wrote:Yeah, that makes most sense. Imperial became the slang term for the Imperator SD just like Super became the slang for the Executor SSD. They were ever present reminders. Very much how all carriers in the US are called by basic Aircraft Carriers or just Super Carriers.
Uh, what? I was just talking about how people usualy refer to the Imperator when stating Imperial and they refer to the Exeuctor when stating Super (not always, but most of the time)Illuminatus Primus wrote:But the Imperator-class and Executor-class were never anything remotely resembling each other in class. Totally different designs and purposes. Furthermore, Palpatine himself properly addresses the Executor's class coolly and calmly. "Your work here is finished my friend. Go out to the command ship and await my orders." Or Han Solo, Imperial Academy graduate w/ honors, "Now don't get jittery Luke, there are a lot of command ships." And again, Palpatine: "I thought I told you to remain on the command ship."Alyeska wrote:Yeah, that makes most sense. Imperial became the slang term for the Imperator SD just like Super became the slang for the Executor SSD. They were ever present reminders. Very much how all carriers in the US are called by basic Aircraft Carriers or just Super Carriers.
Furthermore, references to the DE Alleagance-class and Eclipse-class as "Super Star Destroyers" makes the "its a colloquial term for KDY heavier-than ISD ships in a flagship role" theory most valid. There shouldn't be "classes" of Super Star Destroyer. That's silly.
Its a command ship.
Hence Imperator-class Star Destroyer and Executor-class Star Command Ship.
Morons who took -"look there is an Imperial Stardestroyer." and turned it into "look there is an Imperial class Stardestroyer." should be shot. An American Aircraft Carrier does not translate into an American class Aircraft Carrier. I really hate people who do that.Anget Fisher wrote:aren't they called imperial class sorry if this has been answered
That 'super-class' is actually bugging me even more than Imperial/Imperator class - when the French army accepted the Lebel in 1886, did they call it the super-rifle? Did the British call the dreadnought the 'super-battleship'? Was the IS II called 'super-iosif'? I mean seriously wtf?Vympel wrote:The answer is that WEG is retarded. The same fucking people, on hearing 'Super' Star Destroyer, promptly decided that the Executor was 'Super-class'. They're morons.
Acclamator
Imperator
Executor
the three canon Republic/Imperial warships we've seen so far.
You may find that other people, for example, dumbfucks on the theforce.net boards, slavishly call it Imperial because of their burning desire to make Star Wars sound retarded, but here the consensus is Imperator
That's probably the reason, though it's no excuse - you'd expect that WEG would do some more research than relying on vague lines from the movies and hear-say.Enforcer Talen wrote:I think eveyrone was calling it the super, so the designers went with the flow.
“Research” and “WEG” don’t belong in the same sentence without it also including “total lack of”Cpt_Frank wrote:
That's probably the reason, though it's no excuse - you'd expect that WEG would do some more research than relying on vague lines from the movies and hear-say.
Ironically this is the source of the fuck-ups. The toy companies were the first to call it a "Star Destroyer" (which it is not) and "Super Star Destroyer" IIRC.Cpt_Frank wrote:WEG nomenclature fits eight year old children, not supposedly mature RPG designers.
Now that you bring it up I remember it - one of the playset's displayed Darth Vader's quarters onboard the Executor and they thought that it sounded too harsh and was too difficult for children to pronounce, so they called it Super Star Destroyer.Ironically this is the source of the fuck-ups. The toy companies were the first to call it a "Star Destroyer" (which it is not) and "Super Star Destroyer" IIRC.
What number of worlds did it give? could you get me the quote?Illuminatus Primus wrote:I do no such thing. Since the cited quote did not get the number of Imperial worlds right--its already just flawed supposition on Pelleaon's part.
Yes, true, but this is considered to be the beginning of the good Eu novels.Sokar wrote:Some here would debate that statement. I personally enjoyed his novels for the story and characters, but found his minimalisim with the battles occassionally a bit, less than awe inspiring . I mean if Thrawn had unified a majority of the Imperial Fleet and remaning Imperial Space, yet his command squadron is a paltry 8(IIRC) ISD's? 180 Republic era Dreadnoughts are enough to tip the balance of power between the New Republic and the Empire.....don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the Thrawn Trilogy, but he should have gone bigger and more impressive.Admiral Johnason wrote:All really excepteed books start with Zahn. He was the first to write really good SW novels.
That the Empire only had 1 million worlds.His Divine Shadow wrote:What number of worlds did it give? could you get me the quote?Illuminatus Primus wrote:I do no such thing. Since the cited quote did not get the number of Imperial worlds right--its already just flawed supposition on Pelleaon's part.
The WEG quote on worlds that I know of stipulate 51 million worlds+.Illuminatus Primus wrote:That the Empire only had 1 million worlds
Well, in fact many think Zahn is the best out there (me too).Yes, true, but this is considered to be the beginning of the good Eu novels.
Thrawn couldn't comprehend using a fleet much larger than one superiority fleet, communicating and coordinating with other fleet commanders, and frequently communicating to his government. He also didn't have a staff.Stas Bush wrote:Admiral JohnasonWell, in fact many think Zahn is the best out there (me too).Yes, true, but this is considered to be the beginning of the good Eu novels.
He's the only one of the SW novels (most of which are awfully bad) who came up with proper and interesting "bad guys" (Imperial characters) such as Pellaeon, Mara Jade and Thrawn. He really kicked the Rebels hard, made them lose battles. The only dissapointment is that none of the major rebels was killed.