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Greedo Shoots First-Han Shoots First
Posted: 2003-05-14 03:01pm
by Dorsk 81
What is up with the whole Greedo Shoots First, Han Shoots First thing!? I've been here since March and ppl bring it up loads! Why!? Some please clariffy this!
Posted: 2003-05-14 03:14pm
by Crazy Goji
It's very simple, really. In the original 1977 version of Star Wars, Han shot Greedo before Greedo could do anything. George didn't want Han to look like a ditry scumbag so in the Special Edition, he made so that Greedo was the one that shot first. Fanboys (and girls) everywhere were in an uproar. They liked the Han that played dirty better. That is the story in one paragraph.
Posted: 2003-05-14 03:19pm
by Dorsk 81
Thanx alot, I sadly
have only seen the Special Edition, I always thought that there was something abit off about that scene. Well, now I'm in up roar as well! Han shoots first, so it was so shall it be! Just like the stormtrooper banging his head on the Death Star.
Posted: 2003-05-14 04:36pm
by Ted C
Dorsk 81 wrote:Thanx alot, I sadly
have only seen the Special Edition, I always thought that there was something abit off about that scene.
I am
so feeling my age now.
Posted: 2003-05-14 04:54pm
by D.Turtle
Well, I have never seen the SE
Doesn't have to do too much with my age though, I just simply have the videos of the OT not OT SE
Posted: 2003-05-14 06:03pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Ah, I remember the first time I saw ESB... back when I was seven... it was around 11 PM at my uncles... I fell asleep about the time the SDs were in the asteroid field.
Posted: 2003-05-14 06:37pm
by Joe
Too bad; future generations will never get to see SW as it was, they'll only get to see Greedo shooting first and Jedi Rocks.
Posted: 2003-05-14 06:38pm
by Ghost Rider
Bah not if I can help it...I'm keepin every possible way of my originals.
Though somewhere down the line it'll degrade...sorta sad that the SE will remain while the originals will die out.
Posted: 2003-05-14 06:41pm
by Joe
ANH will go public domain in either 2027 or 2052, depending on how the Sonny Bono Copyright Extension pans out. So, Han shooting first may still be salvageable by 2027.
Posted: 2003-05-14 06:49pm
by Darth Wong
Durran Korr wrote:Too bad; future generations will never get to see SW as it was, they'll only get to see Greedo shooting first and Jedi Rocks.
When I made my DVD version of ANH from my SE laserdiscs, I edited the movie so that Han shoots first
Posted: 2003-05-14 06:52pm
by Stravo
I remember watching SW as a kid in the darkened theater (back then it was not known as ANH) and when Han slowly drew his blaster under the table I remember thinking "Wow, that Han Solo is such a smart guy, he's getting the drop on the bad guy." I guess GL doesn't see it the way a 5 year old would see it huh?
Posted: 2003-05-14 06:59pm
by Oberleutnant
I thought the same way when I saw ANH for the first time at the age of nine in 1993.
The worst thing about Greedo shooting first is that the whole scene looks very clumsy...
Posted: 2003-05-14 07:01pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Darth Wong wrote:When I made my DVD version of ANH from my SE laserdiscs, I edited the movie so that Han shoots first
I can see if on shelves now...Star Wars, The Wong Cut (tm).
Posted: 2003-05-14 07:21pm
by Drooling Iguana
I've got to get myself a laserdisc player, a video capture card, a DVD burner, and the 1995 OE laserdisc set. All I've got now are the pan-and-scam VHS tapes.
Posted: 2003-05-15 01:14am
by Kuja
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Darth Wong wrote:When I made my DVD version of ANH from my SE laserdiscs, I edited the movie so that Han shoots first
I can see if on shelves now...Star Wars, The Wong Cut (tm).
Hell, I'd buy it.
Posted: 2003-05-15 05:04am
by Joe Momma
Crazy Goji wrote:They liked the Han that played dirty better. That is the story in one paragraph.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't even see how Han shooting first is playing dirty. The green chode's got a gun in Han's face and is practically fondling himself under the table while tellling Han how much he's gonna enjoy busting a cap in his ass.
Han not only should have fired first, he should have emptied the clip into Greedo's head as a lesson to the next guy.
-- Joe Momma
Posted: 2003-05-15 06:13am
by Boba Fett
Crazy Goji wrote:It's very simple, really. In the original 1977 version of Star Wars, Han shot Greedo before Greedo could do anything. George didn't want Han to look like a ditry scumbag so in the Special Edition, he made so that Greedo was the one that shot first. Fanboys (and girls) everywhere were in an uproar. They liked the Han that played dirty better. That is the story in one paragraph.
Not to mention that the whole scene looks quite stupid now.
Greedo points his pistol towards Solo for a minute and when he fires - from a meter distance - he misses Han...
...you don't have to be a marksman to hit a human size target from one meter.
Posted: 2003-05-15 06:38am
by Lord of the Farce
Boba Fett wrote:Not to mention that the whole scene looks quite stupid now.
Greedo points his pistol towards Solo for a minute and when he fires - from a meter distance - he misses Han...
...you don't have to be a marksman to hit a human size target from one meter.
[Kung Fool Masta]I am disappointed most, young grasshopper! Did you not see where Mista Solo strikes like a snake, kicking his opponent where the place it pains the most! One can not use their weapon well when they are doubled in hurt![/Kung Fool Masta]
Posted: 2003-05-15 07:22am
by Dorsk 81
If I ever have kids and show them ANH, I'll cover their eyes when Greedo shoots and therefore.......HAN WILL SHOOT FIRST! The only thing that worries me is that if someone tells them he doesn't, it could break the little hearts.
Posted: 2003-05-15 01:04pm
by UltraViolence83
Greedo shooting first is as bad as when Stephen Spielberg took out the guns in that one scene in E.T. because they "scared the kids." Bah! When will movie creators learn that editing old movies is not the answer!
Posted: 2003-05-15 01:24pm
by neoolong
UltraViolence83 wrote:Greedo shooting first is as bad as when Stephen Spielberg took out the guns in that one scene in E.T. because they "scared the kids." Bah! When will movie creators learn that editing old movies is not the answer!
Yes, but at least Spielberg released the original version as well.
Posted: 2003-05-15 04:11pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Darth Wong wrote:When I made my DVD version of ANH from my SE laserdiscs, I edited the movie so that Han shoots first
I can see if on shelves now...Star Wars, The Wong Cut (tm).
I said it before, and I'll say it again... don't you mean "The 'Ight' Cut"?
Posted: 2003-05-15 09:17pm
by Illuminatus Primus
DPDarkPrimus wrote:I said it before, and I'll say it again... don't you mean "The 'Ight' Cut"?
Err....what?
Posted: 2003-05-15 11:02pm
by DPDarkPrimus
It's a rather sophisticated play on words. By saying the "Wong cut" should be the "Ight cut", I am inferring that I misunderstood the phrase "Wong cut" for "Wrong cut" sans the 'r'. And "Right cut" sans the 'r' is "Ight cut".
I hate explaining jokes.
Posted: 2003-05-15 11:08pm
by Montcalm
All this reediting about making Greedo shoot first is dumb,its much simpler saying Han shot first cause he knew Greedo would have shot him and brought the body to Jabba and told him Han tried to shoot his way out.
Case close Lucas screwed-up.