What did Lucas take from the EU and put in the Prequels?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-09 02:15am

Let's make a list shall we?

1. Coruscant
2. Jabba being alive at that time(no age specified in the OT, but mentioned in the EU)
3. The Hutts and their crime organization is taken from the EU
4. The Sith theme of "One master, one apprentice" is shown
5. The way Palpatine went about destroying the Old Republic is also shown in the manner depicted in the EU

Post by **Vympel** » 2002-09-09 02:34am

EU Old Republic Jedis- at least one I think.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-09-09 02:37am

The novelisations have a LOT of shit in them that is, of course, taken from the scripts of the time. One master, one apprentice would be EU. I know for sure, the name, not the concept of the planet, Coruscant is EU. At the beginning of ANHs novelisation it talks about Palpatine's rise, the corruption of the Old Republic, etc etc. I'd have to see a big long list of what could be taken from EU then re read the novels and listen to the radio dramas some more before I could really pick out more stuff.

Morte · Post by **Morte** » 2002-09-09 02:42am

Of course a lot of that stuff could have been part of Lucas's vision anyway (eg Palpatine's rise), with or without the EU.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2002-09-09 02:48am

The double bladed lightsaber

The Jedi "nun" (was her name Adi Galla?)

YT-1300 freighters in the Clone era

Clones based on Fett -- old EU maintained that Fett's armor was based on the predecessors to stormtroopers called "shocktroopers"

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-09 02:51am

So? Thats why the EU is official is it not?
This is not an EU debate thread either.
Just a simple listing of the sources or incidents or characters that are from the EU.

Morte · Post by **Morte** » 2002-09-09 02:55am

I was simply saying that it may be unfair to say that Lucas 'took' all these elements from the EU to include in movies.

I can understand character listings and such but something like:

Lord Poe wrote:YT-1300 freighters in the Clone era

Who's to say George didn't always assume that YT-1300s were from the clone era? After all, it is "a piece of junk".

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-09 02:59am

Morte wrote:I was simply saying that it may be unfair to say that Lucas 'took' all these elements from the EU to include in movies.

I can understand character listings and such but something like:

Lord Poe wrote:YT-1300 freighters in the Clone era
Who's to say George didn't always assume that YT-1300s were from the clone era? After all, it is "a piece of junk".

I don't see how it is "unfair", you mean as in GL did not come up with it himself or so?
It doesn't matter who came up with it, only thing that matters is wheter it came from the EU or not, if GL put it in the EU, it only gives the EU more reliability than before, just shows he's working closer with it than thought.

Morte · Post by **Morte** » 2002-09-09 03:08am

Unfair was the wrong choice of words.

Stop worrying, HDS, I'm not trying to attack the EU. For the third time, all I'm saying is that some of this may well have already been in Lucas's mind before it was written about in the EU. Therefore it may not be a situation of Lucas thinking 'wow, that's a good idea. I'll put it in my movie' just Lucas thinking 'wow, that's odd: they got my idea right'.

I just wanted to remind people of that, not start an argument.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-09 03:10am

Morte wrote:Stop worrying, HDS, I'm not trying to attack the EU. For the third time, all I'm saying is that some of this may well have already been in Lucas's mind before it was written about in the EU. Therefore it may not be a situation of Lucas thinking 'wow, that's a good idea. I'll put it in my movie' just Lucas thinking 'wow, that's odd: they got my idea right'.

I am worrying, I wasn't anymore when you first said it, but when I read that last thing I got worried again since it's a snide comment against the EU, you assume Lucas would be thinking it's an oddity that they got it right in the first place and not the other way around.

Morte · Post by **Morte** » 2002-09-09 03:13am

Oh come on... can't you take a joke?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-09-09 03:26am

Morte wrote:Oh come on... can't you take a joke?

Not really, not about this subject, anymore anyway.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-09-09 03:37am

Lord Poe wrote:The double bladed lightsaber

The Jedi "nun" (was her name Adi Galla?)

YT-1300 freighters in the Clone era

Clones based on Fett -- old EU maintained that Fett's armor was based on the predecessors to stormtroopers called "shocktroopers"

Actually, wasn't the original concept that Fett was some form of super trooper (funny movie btw). Maybe that's what your saying actually. I'll have to dig up that magic myth book I have.

As far as YT1300s I'm surprised we're not seeing them in the prequels.

Smiling Bandit · Post by **Smiling Bandit** » 2002-09-09 09:56am

2. Jabba being alive at that time(no age specified in the OT, but mentioned in the EU)

I don't think you can chalk this one up to Eu. We don't know how old Jabba was in RotJ, but it wasn't *that* long. certainly, HJabba would have been alive, unless his species has a avery fast growing cycle.

4. The Sith theme of "One master, one apprentice" is shown
5. The way Palpatine went about destroying the Old Republic is also shown in the manner depicted in the EU

Except I think both these were not precisely depicted in the EU and both were taken from rumors or interviews with george.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-09-09 11:56am

1) Aalya Secura
2) Double bladed lightsabre
3) name "Coruscant"
4) Sentinal class landing vessel
5) Dash Rendar's ship
6) ASP droids
7) thrantas

Yuzzem (I think, the illustrated guide to the star wars universe came out before the SE, right?)
9) Swoops

Think that's it, but the ANH SE is filled with stuff.

CorSec · Post by **CorSec** » 2002-09-09 12:15pm

I could only come up with three items (two which have been mentioned):

Coruscant
Swoop bikes
Aurra Sing

une · Post by **une** » 2002-09-09 12:48pm

Anything coming from the ANH novellization shold be discarded considerring that it was written by Lucas.

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2002-09-09 12:59pm

His Divine Shadow wrote:Let's make a list shall we?

1. Coruscant
2. Jabba being alive at that time(no age specified in the OT, but mentioned in the EU)
3. The Hutts and their crime organization is taken from the EU
4. The Sith theme of "One master, one apprentice" is shown
5. The way Palpatine went about destroying the Old Republic is also shown in the manner depicted in the EU

Actually Coruscant wasn't EU, it was a GL concept. Ralph McQuarrie drew pictures of it in the 70's but GL couldn't afford to put them in SW at that time. Although I'm not sure if the name Coruscant is EU, but the concept of a city-planet is all GL. Look at the Illustrated Star Wars Universe.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-09-09 01:21pm

Return of the Jedi novelisation Star Wars trilogy
p 352 paperback
Jabba smiled grimly. 'Your mind powers will not work on me boy, I am not affected by your human thought pattern.' Then as an after thought 'I was killing your kind when being a Jedi meant soemthing.'

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2002-09-09 02:02pm

Hmmmm...What did GL take from the EU and put in his prequels...The general suckiness of the EU has translated rather well in the prequels, PARTICULARLY in TPM. Just my thoughts.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-09-09 02:47pm

GASP! Refer not to Zahn doth you Stravo? Least I have to smite you

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-09-09 03:17pm

[quote="Lord Poe"]
The Jedi "nun" (was her name Adi Galla?)

quote]

No, it was her Cousin, another Gallia in AOTC, I'll go find her name...

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-09-09 03:21pm

THEHOOLIGANJEDI wrote: 5. The way Palpatine went about destroying the Old Republic is also shown in the manner depicted in the EU

Actually Coruscant wasn't EU, it was a GL concept. Ralph McQuarrie drew pictures of it in the 70's but GL couldn't afford to put them in SW at that time. Although I'm not sure if the name Coruscant is EU, but the concept of a city-planet is all GL. Look at the Illustrated Star Wars Universe.[/quote]

Yes, but the orginial name was New Abbadon, which sort of exists in EU, because Palpatine was slowly moving the Goverment there after Hoth. Coruscant is a totally EU name though.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2002-09-09 03:24pm

une wrote:Anything coming from the ANH novellization shold be discarded considerring that it was written by Lucas.

Yes, and most of the EU didn't hit til the '90s minus Marvel Comic I think.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2002-09-09 08:07pm

Mr Bean wrote:GASP! Refer not to Zahn doth you Stravo? Least I have to smite you

NO BEAN. Absolutely not. Zahn is the ONLY reason I don't consider the EU total shit. Zahn made me start loving Star Wars again after years of a haitus. It was the flood of shit like Crystal Star and Jedi Academy trilogy that made me turn my nose up to the EU and am proud to say I haven't read a book since.

I am a disciple of Zahn...and don't you forget it!!

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