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Force Precog vs. Paradox
Posted: 2003-06-01 04:47pm
by Yogi
Suppose someone, to test out Force Precog, asks a Jedi Master if he will turn right or turn left then does the opposite of what the Jedi Master says. How does that work out in terms of Preog and Paradox?
Posted: 2003-06-01 04:51pm
by Illuminatus Primus
Posted: 2003-06-01 04:54pm
by Admiral Johnason
Prehaps force precog works by allowing you to see a parallel universe, thereby allowing you to make a choise that allows you to change the circumstances of the coming situation.
Posted: 2003-06-01 05:07pm
by Robert Treder
They never say Jedi are always right with their predictions.
And anyways, what kind of lame-ass Jedi Master would actually say "left" of "right"? They're wise and cryptic, they'd do it with much more style, and cover their asses, to boot:
IMPUDENT KNIGHT: Master, tell me this: which direction will I turn, right or left?
WISE MASTER: You will walk in that direction which you must walk.
Alternatively:
WISE MASTER: You will walk in the direction opposite that which I predict.
or:
WISE MASTER: Shut the fuck up and get me a sandwich!
Posted: 2003-06-01 05:16pm
by neoolong
It can be that the future they predict is the future that will happen given no forwarning on the part of the person that makes the action. So if the person isn't told the prediction, the prediction is accurate. If the person is told the prediction, then he has the ability to change the direction and so change what will happen.
Posted: 2003-06-01 05:20pm
by Alyeska
Precog is not perfect for a variety of reasons.
An example would be someone who is attacking a Jedi at speeds the Jedi can barely comprehend. The Jedi senses an attack to his left and begins to block. The attacker notices the Jedi is begining to block the side he was going to attack on. The attacker then changes his attack pattern and strikes Jedi on the right.
Precog can be helpful but its entirely possible for the Jedi to do something that causes the precog event to be known to others. With this knowledge people can adapt and change their tactics.
Posted: 2003-06-01 06:41pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Doesn't matter which direction they say, as long as they are facing you. Then, no matter which direction they go, you can say "You never asked if it was your [direction] or my [direction]." Jedi logic ownage!
Re: Force Precog vs. Paradox
Posted: 2003-06-01 09:15pm
by YT300000
Yogi wrote:Suppose someone, to test out Force Precog, asks a Jedi Master if he will turn right or turn left then does the opposite of what the Jedi Master says. How does that work out in terms of Preog and Paradox?
Easy: "Impossible to tell, the future is" -Yoda
Precog is perfect for approaching danger, but farseeing is really, really hard, and often inaccurate.
Posted: 2003-06-04 01:33pm
by Slartibartfast
Jedi Master: "I meant my other left."
Posted: 2003-06-04 01:40pm
by JodoForce
Alyeska wrote:Precog is not perfect for a variety of reasons.
An example would be someone who is attacking a Jedi at speeds the Jedi can barely comprehend. The Jedi senses an attack to his left and begins to block. The attacker notices the Jedi is begining to block the side he was going to attack on. The attacker then changes his attack pattern and strikes Jedi on the right.
Precog can be helpful but its entirely possible for the Jedi to do something that causes the precog event to be known to others. With this knowledge people can adapt and change their tactics.
If you'd help us in the Goku vs Palpatine and Hiko Seijirou Vs Yoda fights...
Posted: 2003-06-04 01:45pm
by Ghost Rider
Robert Treder wrote:
WISE MASTER: Shut the fuck up and get me a sandwich!
Now that is classic...I could see Windu doing that to students.
Posted: 2003-06-04 02:35pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Did no one see my post? I solved the problem!
Posted: 2003-06-05 02:27am
by JodoForce
And if the student asks 'your left or my left?'
If the student WEREN'T facing you?
Posted: 2003-06-05 10:02am
by DPDarkPrimus
JodoForce wrote:And if the student asks 'your left or my left?'
If the student WEREN'T facing you?
Uh... you Force choke them!
Posted: 2003-06-06 10:37pm
by Robert Treder
Or side-step the question, as I suggested. Think "What Would the Oracle Do?"